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Where is Apple going? Mac or iPhone?
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Interesting, but Chrome is all about turning Linux into a browser-centric fast booting animal, and IMO it's being threatened from the bottom by Android and iOS. I think Chrome's going to go extinct rather quickly. And even if it didn't, it's all about being lightweight and web centric.
i agree chrome OS is going to exticnt (hell, its already forgotten and its not even out yet), but iOS is extremely different than chrome.
i mean chrome is running on linux, which is an open OS that you can change it the way you want it (i hope they dont remove that part). iOS is extremely locked.
btw have you guys seen jolibook/jolicloud? seems like a premature chrome OS, or maybe even better if it had a little support behind it...
Im a script supervisor out in Hollywood for the movies. I use mac for pre production, filming, then post! All the films I've worked on have been edited on Mac Pros. Apple knows there being used everywhere in the movie industry. Every once in a while you'll find a linux program (mostly at Pixar) but mostly Apple! I think Apple knows there depended on for movies. I don't think theyll mess with OSX too much knowing this. But i'm probably wrong!
With recent development in FCPX it seem's you're right (on being wrong that is...)
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How so? What recent developments in FCPX, I'm not user of that app so I don't know if the updates were good/bad/indifferent.
Apple has sokething like tripled growth over PC in the last year (cant remember exact figures). Apple sells way more macs than other companies sell PCs.
Very good post!
I always liked apple but just couldn't afford a Mac. Got the iPhone 3gs and I had to get an iMac. I got hooked in to the Apple world an i don't want to leave.
Looking forward to Lion
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We'll bet getting "actual work" (whatever that means) done on them just the same. Everything evolves. There's already been a ridiculous amount of development.
Welcome to the Post-PC Era. More than "fake work."
If you think that these devices will be limited and consigned to Facebook and Twitter, you'll be in for quite a surprise. But see, that's how the competition thinks as well: small and unimaginative. It took Apple to show everyone the possibilities.
What if your work involves enormous amounts of writing? Or not even work, just your general usage. Am I supposed to do that on 9.7" iPad with virtual keyboard and reduce my efficiency significantly? Add a physical separate keyboard and you got a regular desktop with touch screen. Add a physical non-separate KB and you got a laptop with touch screen.
I've asked this question from you several times but you have never replied. Just because tablets do everything you do doesn't mean that that applies to everyone.
Smartphones are computers too. My car's ECU is very much a computer too.
Computer is a very broad and general term to describe a machine that takes input, processes it, optionally stores it and provides output. Input doesn't need to be a keyboard or mouse, it can be sensors. Output doesn't need to be a screen or printer, it can be electrical signals to relays and switches. Storage doesn't need to be a hardware, it can be NVRAM, continuously powered DRAM or SRAM, etc..
Anyway, back to the thread topic, which is both old and get necro'd :
"If I were running Apple, I would milk the Macintosh for all it's worth -- and get busy on the next great thing. The PC wars are over. Done. Microsoft won a long time ago."
-- Steve Jobs, Fortune, Feb. 19, 1996
That's the man's plan folks. It's all going exactly according to plan. It's just the Mac cow is running dry for Apple and the next great thing is here now.
The man is blind to what the iPad revolution is exactly. Is it the form factor ? No, of course not, that is rather limited as you pointed out. Tablets as a form factor have never really caught on.
What about the iPad is different ? It's the iOS and the new paradigms it brings. No more filesystem, no more complex application hierarchies, Zero configuration. All the complexity hidden behind a walled garden of simplicity. This is the true revolution. People are scooping up iPads not because they want a tablet, those are awkward to carry around on work on, but because they want a device that "it just works!". Bring the iPad like OS to laptops, desktops, tablets, smartphones, create one big enough ecosystem and make sure the APIs are sufficient to build advanced software without breaking the simplicity of the system, and you've just "reinvented" the PC.
That is the true revolution. The tablet thing is just a fad like Netbooks. A compromise on everything.
You're not getting it. Use a Mac during the transition period. As for "enormous amounts of writing", I don't have that answer. But Apple, the industry, and developers will. There's a good chance that it won't be what you expect, and it won't involve traditional computing.
Think beyond the next 24-48 hours. If Steve Jobs did and came up with THAT, then I'm sure you can manage just a fraction of that in order to gain a broader perspective.
So you admit that tablets are very limited machines, at least at the moment? You are only speculating that Apple will be able to solve the input issue of tablets but you can't even offer a solution. Until that happens, tablets will be very limited machines with very limited use.
Apple already did solve the problem : Laptops. Now all that remains is to fit the iOS type revolution on there and Steve's plan will be complete. It is absolutely where all this is going, no matter how much we don't like it.
Yeah, well Apple solved that issue much before we even imagined about tablets then
I agree with you that what we will see is that OS X will get more iOS-like or maybe at one point there will only be iOS (or whatever it will be called then). What I was asking is that why does *LTD* think that tablets will replace traditional computers, especially when we consider the shortcomings of tablets.
Yeah, well Apple solved that issue much before we even imagined about tablets then
Because *LTD* is shortsighed and can't see what the "Post-PC" era really means. It's not about Tablets. It's not about smartphones, it's a software revolution.
iOS like operating systems, where everything is sandboxed, self-contained, easy to install, easy to clean-up and requires zero management will replace "traditional" operating systems.
Windows 8 is a hint of that. iOS and Lion are others. Tablets are just a marketing tool to get people used to liking that sort of stuff. Once people are used to it, it'll start showing up on ultra-portables laptops "for convenience". Then it'll be full fledged laptops and before we know it, desktops too.
Of course tablets are limited. So are smartphones, but this has not stopped millions of people from buying them. So, what is your point?
That the tablet form factor will not replace traditional laptops and/or desktops like *LTD* is suggesting. Nor will tablets be suitable for everyone's usage. There is definitely market for tablets like the sales figures show but that doesn't mean they will replace something.
Ah, I see. But still, who knows. The mouse is an essential device and PCs assume their use, but people laughed at the mouse when it was first introduced. I used to be amazed at the people who would type on smartphone keyboards just using their thumbs.
I agree that tablets will not replace laptops. For now. But if Apple seamlessly cuts the cord, you may find that there are people whose only devices are tablets and smartphones. This might spur innovations to let these people use the devices more effectively, without thinking about laptops at all.
I agree with this perspective as well. But great software has to runs on great devices.
As for your second paragraph, I'm in agreement as well. I'm just not sure how touch-based activity will show up on laptops - a device which is really unsuited to touch. Of course, software is going to evolve (and become simpler and more accessible), but input method is also changing.
For a period of time in 2010, it appeared all iOS.
But lately, and I mean very recently, I tend to think that Apple is going to go in whatever direction the money goes.
Apple is a money addict, and that falls in line neatly with those who's self esteem is bolstered by "being seen" with cool stuff.
More often than not in the USA especially, it's a shallow environment where toys matter more than family... Sad but true.
But lately, and I mean very recently, I tend to think that Apple is going to go in whatever direction the money goes.
Apple is a money addict, and that falls in line neatly with those who's self esteem is bolstered by "being seen" with cool stuff.
More often than not in the USA especially, it's a shallow environment where toys matter more than family... Sad but true.
No doubt that tablets will be fine for some people as their main computers, but not everyone (which was my point). In fact, my dad has been using his iPad as his main computer for the last month because he has been traveling. He only browses the web and uses email so iPad is sufficient for him, and he likes the iPad a lot. I no longer have to help him as much as I used to when he was using a PC/Mac.