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oldmacs

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Over 40 percent of installed iPads are A5 iPads (Majority are iPad 2 and Mini 1 plus some iPad 3). I think that iOS 10 will run on all iOS 9 devices. Remember that A) Apple developed iOS 9 for older devices using a new method (start with a base OS then try out new features until the best combination of speed/ new features can be found). I could see an extremely stripped down version of iOS 10 for A5 and possibly A6 devices. That way, the huge numbers of A5 iPads will get continued support, especially in terms of security and any other minor changes to ensure continued support within the ecosystem in case any changes are made to iCloud this year.

Lets not forget that the iPad Mini 1 was selling (and in high volumes) up until quite recently.

Maybe the 4S and iPod Touch 5 will get dropped. Those are the two slowest A5 devices (As far as I know) and also probably the two least used.
 

Math889

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So...

iPhone 5,5s,6,6s
iPad 3,4 Air 1 e 2,IPad Pro
iPad Mini2,3,4
iPod touch 6
 
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Andres Cantu

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I would be willing to bet that A5/A5X devices will not support iOS 10 and A7+ devices will. The "gray area" is with the A6/A6X devices. While they may be 32-bit devices, they do have that all-important 1GB of RAM, so it'll be up to Apple whether or not they want to continue to support those devices.

If they don't, it wouldn't be the end of the world. There are many more A5 devices than A6 devices, anyway.
 
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Michael Goff

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Agreed. And at least this time, by doing that, they can say all devices get all the features. This should also prevent lots of people from whining about performance.

If they support 32 bit devices, they won't be able to say all devices have all features.
 
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oldmacs

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Ipad 2 is definetely out!!!

Why? It has the highest number of installed units out of every iPad. Take out the iPad 2 and Mini 1 ( the same device) and thats nearly 40 percent of iPads in use that can't upgrade.

Apple could use its new technique to bring iOS 10 in a very minimal from to A5 devices.
 

CagdasCizer

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Well I would like to keep my ipad 3 at least ipads gets force touch so it would be nice to a5x to support ios 10
 

KALLT

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I do not think that 64-bit support is not a compelling reason for Apple to drop devices. They introduced app thinning with iOS 9 to make sure that apps do not have to carry both 32-bit and 64-bit code anymore and I really doubt that Apple would remove 32-bit code from the OS. By far most apps on the App Store are compiled for 32-bit. I am sure that Apple is already doing ample to phase out 32-bit where possible.
 

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Why? It has the highest number of installed units out of every iPad. Take out the iPad 2 and Mini 1 ( the same device) and thats nearly 40 percent of iPads in use that can't upgrade.

Apple could use its new technique to bring iOS 10 in a very minimal from to A5 devices.

Because they've been supporting those olde devices for long enough.
 

magicMac

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If they support 32 bit devices, they won't be able to say all devices have all features.

sorry, but you misunderstood my post. A5 devices are currently the ones that don't get all the features of ios9. If they drop support entirely for the A5/A5X devices then, as I said, they can claim all devices that get the update will support all the build in features, as currently A6 onwards get all the features of iOS 9. the only thing A6 devices can't do is safari add-ons.
 

danleon950410

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sorry, but you misunderstood my post. A5 devices are currently the ones that don't get all the features of ios9. If they drop support entirely for the A5/A5X devices then, as I said, they can claim all devices that get the update will support all the build in features, as currently A6 onwards get all the features of iOS 9. the only thing A6 devices can't do is safari add-ons.
That's not possible. All the new features of iOS 10 are NEVER going to be added to A6 devices.
That's not possible from both the technical and marketing point, new hardware additions of upcoming iphones aside.
 

Michael Goff

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sorry, but you misunderstood my post. A5 devices are currently the ones that don't get all the features of ios9. If they drop support entirely for the A5/A5X devices then, as I said, they can claim all devices that get the update will support all the build in features, as currently A6 onwards get all the features of iOS 9. the only thing A6 devices can't do is safari add-ons.

And I'm saying that A6 devices won't have all of the features. They don't at this point, and I only see Apple adding more 64-bit only things.
 

saudor

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Either iPad 3 or iPad 4+
iPhone 5+

I have a feeling it might be iPad4+ since ios9 didnt really do much for the 3. Either way, 1gb ram is probably the breakpoint
 
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Paddle1

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I think it'll be A6 and up on all devices. No A5. (Lots of missing features in iOS 9 which usually happens on the last update.) If anything maybe the A5X iPad 3 only, but it's pretty slow too.
 

Math889

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iOS 10
iPad 3 And Up
iPad Mini 2 And newer
iPod touch 6
iPhone 5 And newer

IOS 11
IPad 4 And newer
iPad Mini 2 And newer
iPod touch 6
iPhone 5 And newer
[doublepost=1452547473][/doublepost]IOS 12
iPhone 5s And newer
iPad Mini 2 And newer
iPod touch 6
iPad Air 1 And newer

Only 64 bit!!!
 

magicMac

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Probably something along those lines but it's all just speculation at this time

iOS 10
iPad 3 And Up
iPad Mini 2 And newer
iPod touch 6
iPhone 5 And newer

IOS 11
IPad 4 And newer
iPad Mini 2 And newer
iPod touch 6
iPhone 5 And newer
[doublepost=1452547473][/doublepost]IOS 12
iPhone 5s And newer
iPad Mini 2 And newer
iPod touch 6
iPad Air 1 And newer

Only 64 bit!!!
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Armen

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I hope Apple drops the 5S and older devices for iOS 10 so the lag/stutter/planned obsolescence threads all go away.
 

oldmacs

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Because they've been supporting those olde devices for long enough.

That is not a good reason to drop devices. That is environmentally reckless and pretty poor for customers. If they are able to get a bare bones version of iOS 10 running on A5 devices they should. They were still selling the iPad Mini 1 a couple of months ago.

Again, give the development model Apple moved to with iOS 9, they could easily deliver a barebones version of iOS 10, mainly for the purposes of security and for compatibility with any major changes. Its a fairly win win situation - A5 device users can upgrade if they like to ensure another year of security, and that will not effect the users of any other device negatively, and developers are not forced to support A5 devices either.


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I hope Apple drops the 5S and older devices for iOS 10 so the lag/stutter/planned obsolescence threads all go away.

Lol or maybe they should A) not promise performance improvements and B) actually make a version of iOS that doesn't stutter 1 and 2 year old devices.
 
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ajiuo

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WOW! People are going to be disappointed. Only the following devices are getting iOS 10.

Past Products:
- iPhone 5
- iPhone 5S
- iPhone 5C
- iPhone 6
- iPhone 6 Plus
- iPhone 6S
- iPonee 6S Plus
- iPad mini 3
- iPad min 4
- iPad Air
- iPad Air 2
- iPad Pro

Upcoming Products (the product lines are being simplified in 2016. The numbers are being dumped in favor of model years. Both the iPhone and iPad with both come in mini, standard, and pro... The air name is also being dumped)
- iPhone mini (2016 model)
- iPhone (2016 model)
- iPhone Pro (2016 model)
- iPad mini (2016 model)
- iPad (2016 model)
- iPad Pro (2016 model)
 

Michael Goff

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That is not a good reason to drop devices. That is environmentally reckless and pretty poor for customers. If they are able to get a bare bones version of iOS 10 running on A5 devices they should. They were still selling the iPad Mini 1 a couple of months ago.

Again, give the development model Apple moved to with iOS 9, they could easily deliver a barebones version of iOS 10, mainly for the purposes of security and for compatibility with any major changes. Its a fairly win win situation - A5 device users can upgrade if they like to ensure another year of security, and that will not effect the users of any other device negatively, and developers are not forced to support A5 devices either.


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Lol or maybe they should A) not promise performance improvements and B) actually make a version of iOS that doesn't stutter 1 and 2 year old devices.

Freeing up developers to work on making newer devices work better is good for consumers. Buying a device for years ago doesn't entitle you to perpetual support.
 
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