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Which devices will get iOS 10?
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And give the iPhone 5 only 4 versions of iOS or 5c just 3 when the 4S has 5? I don't think so.
I hope they drop 32 bit support. The faster Apple leaves that behind, the faster developers will update their apps for 64-bit.
No reason for that new apps should already be 64 bit ready since a some months
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A5 = NO
A6 = Maybe
A7 = YES
It's longe than others support there devices. At the end of the day iOS 9 could continue to be revised and tweaked long after iOS 10 is mainstream.
It will almost definely support 32 bit devices. Over half of the installed iPad base is 32 bit and a fair number of iPhones are as well.
I think that like iOS 9, apple will work with its new system of providing support to older devices, even if it is a heavily stripped down version. Longer support cycles = better for the environment and better for consumers (if only they allowed downgrades). They also introduced app thinning and also removed the requirement to support all devices which makes it easier for developers.
I think that like iOS 9, apple will work with its new system of providing support to older devices, even if it is a heavily stripped down version. Longer support cycles = better for the environment and better for consumers (if only they allowed downgrades). They also introduced app thinning and also removed the requirement to support all devices which makes it easier for developers.
For every one who says iOS 10 would rather support 64 bit devices only so that developers would give more support for A7 and later, you all just think about yourself, I wouldn't like it when some devices won't get a certain update that I may get. People get happy when they have the feeling that apple still gives them support.
It's not fair to drop some A5 devices now or even A6.
My prediction is that apple wouldn't even release iOS 10 this year, I think it would be a 9.4 instead which will support :
iPhone 5 and later
iPad 3 and later
iPad mini 1 & later
iPod touch 5 & 6.
My prediction is that Apple in WWDC won't introduce iOS 10 but iOS 9.4 & will continue support till September 2017.
iOS 9.4 will drop iPad 2 & iPhone 4s.
Then iOS 10 will come in 2017, it may support :
iPad 4 and later
iPhone 5 and later
iPad mini 2 and later
iPod touch 6
iOS 10 may drop the most powerful A5 device, the iPad 3 & the least supported iPad mini & iPod touch 5 as both of them were released in 2012.
Come on people, how come the iPad 2 gets 6 iOS versions and an iPad mini 1 gets 4 versions only, if you think that the iPad mini's A5 chip won't handle the next iOS, you are wrong. It's just about Apple willing to continue support or not for iPad mini.
It's not still the time to think about dropping all 32-bit devices, in fact 32 bit devices with iOS 9, run better than A7 devices which are known to have Metal.
From reading all the replies, some people say that the iPad mini 2 won't make it to iOS 10, you are probably wrong, iPad mini 2 is a powerful iPad but it's just not being well supported. iPhone 5 will make it to iOS 10 as it has a powerful CPU & GPU.
In my opinion, the least supported iPhone will be the iPhone 6 as its A8 chip feels like an improved A7 based on very close scores. iPhone 5 was 4 times faster than the iPhone 4s, iPhone 5s is double the power of the iPhone 5, iPhone 6 is not double the power of the 5s. iPhone 6s is double the power of the iPhone 5s.
It's not fair to drop some A5 devices now or even A6.
My prediction is that apple wouldn't even release iOS 10 this year, I think it would be a 9.4 instead which will support :
iPhone 5 and later
iPad 3 and later
iPad mini 1 & later
iPod touch 5 & 6.
My prediction is that Apple in WWDC won't introduce iOS 10 but iOS 9.4 & will continue support till September 2017.
iOS 9.4 will drop iPad 2 & iPhone 4s.
Then iOS 10 will come in 2017, it may support :
iPad 4 and later
iPhone 5 and later
iPad mini 2 and later
iPod touch 6
iOS 10 may drop the most powerful A5 device, the iPad 3 & the least supported iPad mini & iPod touch 5 as both of them were released in 2012.
Come on people, how come the iPad 2 gets 6 iOS versions and an iPad mini 1 gets 4 versions only, if you think that the iPad mini's A5 chip won't handle the next iOS, you are wrong. It's just about Apple willing to continue support or not for iPad mini.
It's not still the time to think about dropping all 32-bit devices, in fact 32 bit devices with iOS 9, run better than A7 devices which are known to have Metal.
From reading all the replies, some people say that the iPad mini 2 won't make it to iOS 10, you are probably wrong, iPad mini 2 is a powerful iPad but it's just not being well supported. iPhone 5 will make it to iOS 10 as it has a powerful CPU & GPU.
In my opinion, the least supported iPhone will be the iPhone 6 as its A8 chip feels like an improved A7 based on very close scores. iPhone 5 was 4 times faster than the iPhone 4s, iPhone 5s is double the power of the iPhone 5, iPhone 6 is not double the power of the 5s. iPhone 6s is double the power of the iPhone 5s.
Eventually Apple is going to start pulling the plug early because everyone complains that new iOS versions don't run well on older devices. The iPhone 5c, is the same thing as the iPhone 5. Look how the iPhone 4s runs with iOS 9, putting iOS 10 on an iPhone 5/5c will be the same, if not worse.
They can't just drop 32-bit support, not yet at least, it's still too big for marketing purposes and you all know that the execs are the ones who call the shots.
I know that's what most of you guys are hoping but that doesn't really matter.
IMO, A6 devices and up are gonna be supported by iOS 10.
32-bit support to be dropped by 06/17 and unsupported by iOS 11.
I know that's what most of you guys are hoping but that doesn't really matter.
IMO, A6 devices and up are gonna be supported by iOS 10.
32-bit support to be dropped by 06/17 and unsupported by iOS 11.
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You must not realize how much more capable the A6 chip is over the A5, if that's the way Apple were working they would have dropped the A5 already. It seems more time based to me, rather than power or architecture.
Apple has already begun the slow dropping of 32bit. More and more new features that get added are 64bit only. I believe some of the Slide Over/Split Screen and PiP are 64bit only. Safari Content Blockers are 64bit only. And the most current addition to iOS 9, Night Shift is 64bit only. So the process is already started and moving to a 64bit only OS is happening soon. Maybe this year (iOS 10) but for sure by next year (iOS 11)
I personally can't wait for that day to come of when iOS drops all the baggage of supporting 32bit. It has to be done sooner than later in order to move iOS forward.
People will complain no matter what Apple does. ("They made my device sloooow with the newest iOS forcing me to buy a new device!!!!" or "They didn't release the new iOS on my device, forcing me to buy a new device so I can get the new iOS!!!!")
I would rather the dropped support complaints, because they will tire out after a month or so. The slow on my old device complaints would last the entire life cycle of that iOS.
I personally can't wait for that day to come of when iOS drops all the baggage of supporting 32bit. It has to be done sooner than later in order to move iOS forward.
People will complain no matter what Apple does. ("They made my device sloooow with the newest iOS forcing me to buy a new device!!!!" or "They didn't release the new iOS on my device, forcing me to buy a new device so I can get the new iOS!!!!")
I would rather the dropped support complaints, because they will tire out after a month or so. The slow on my old device complaints would last the entire life cycle of that iOS.
So they shouldn't support 32-bit devices because you don't like complaining, really? The oldest devices are always "obsolete" so that's not going to stop. Next it'll be 64-bit, then it'll be devices that don't have 3D Touch.
It's better to just make the most of existing hardware, while also pushing forward with new products.
No, not because of complaining. That's not what I said.
They should drop 32bit so that they can dump all the baggage that comes along with having to keep supporting older hardware and 32bit. That's so much extra code to have to include. If they drop 32bit then everything can be rewritten to be leaner and more efficient 64bit.
My comment about the complaining is about Apple can't win with whatever decision they decide to make but just ripping the bandaid off and getting it over with and dropping 32bit all together is the better choice rather than dragging it along longer than it needs to.
We'll see if that results in any benefit. I'm not sure app developers really want to drop those portions of their user base at this time anyway.
Hopefully the 5S and newer because we all know it'll run like shart on the 5. That means 64 bit and newer only. But then people will complain about the 5 not getting it, so what can you do...
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Let's be real, they won't run it well. It's 2016 and the iPad 2 is from 2011. It's better that they cut it... but we know if they keep it people will complain about performance, and if they cut it people will complain about lack of support. I hope they cut it, those users shouldn't upgrade their iPad beyond iOS 7 if they care about performance.
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Strange but sort of true I've had less issues with the 4 on iOS 9 than others users on the Air seem to be having.
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Let's be real, they won't run it well. It's 2016 and the iPad 2 is from 2011. It's better that they cut it... but we know if they keep it people will complain about performance, and if they cut it people will complain about lack of support. I hope they cut it, those users shouldn't upgrade their iPad beyond iOS 7 if they care about performance.
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They run well enough for plenty of people including myself. iOS 9 is slower but still perfectly usable.
Apple could essentially deliver iOS 10 for A5 devices as an extremely basic version, next to no new features, just the changes to allow continued app compatibility and iCloud syncing plus any new security fixes.
If people complaining is your biggest reason for not wanting the majority of iPad users to be supported, then maybe ignore the complaining? Apple could easily fix it by allowing downgrading anyway.
That way the usable life of devices is extended, which is especially good for the environment and those who bought iPad mini 1s 6 months ago. If Apple thought it was good enough to take he fat margins from selling old technology in 2015 (The mini 1 outsold the mini 2 and 3 for a portion of 2015), then apple can extend support for as long as they can.
A5 chip devices already got a "bonus" year when Apple decided to not drop a single device with iOS 9, when they normally have dropped some devices in previous years.
I'm fairly confident A5 will for sure be gone in iOS 10 (especially since they are getting sued by some people in the US that iOS 9 destroyed their A5 4s iPhone and made it "unusable".) That's what Apple gets when they actually do people a favour by extending support instead of dropping it like it was expected to be (it shocked nearly everyone that iOS 9 dropped no devices.)
Bonus year for who? iPad 2, 4S buyers probably yes. But i don't think people should be overly grateful that their Apple purchase from 2015 is still getting a software updates after 6 months. I must have missed the disclaimer on the mini 1, which informed about the lack of future software support. It was Apple's own choice to sell outdated processors way beyond a healthy product life cycle. And this backfires now, especially for iPads:
Those devices won't disappear with a 64 bit only iOS 10. Some people will upgrade, most of them probably won't until these iPads falls apart. If Apple drops them, developers will face smaller installation base and more hassle to keep their apps compatible. In an already shrinking iPad market, probably not a good outlook. As much as i appreciate a move to only 64 bit, there is no easy way out the current situation. I don't know, maybe Apple could release a barebone iOS 10 for those devices. Or some kind of last iOS 9.4 update with the possibility of minor future enhancements and security patches (similar to outdated Mac OS X versions).
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Well considering iphone 5; if they left it latest ios 9 it would keep its prime performance. Currently I have seen no slow-down in everyday usage in iphone 5. Apps open quite fast and software is really reliable. Maybe apple wont support it after ios 9 and keep the phone fast. I believe iphone 5 will be a lot slower after ios 10
Is that a very rambling stream of consciousness way of saying, iPad 4 was the iPad 3 that they hadn't finished in time and iPad 3 was the stopgap to market something new?
Not everyone was shocked when iOS 9 supported the A5 devices, people predicted apple would finally stop supporting the iPad 2 not the full A5 line. You were saying that the A5 would be gone with iOS 10, this wouldn't happen, Apple wouldn't really stop supporting nearly 50% of all iPads, 9% of all iPhones, 90% of all iPod touches (5th & 6th gen), Its not people's fault apple kept selling the iPad mini & iPod touch 5 till 2015 and iPad 2 till 2014. Till now, I still see iPad mini 1's for sale everywhere. iPad mini's won't just stop being sold when Apple doesn't sell them anymore in the Apple Store, they will be sold everywhere except the apple store.
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It's note really exactly like this, I've read an article about the iPad 3 & iPad 4 and it actually said that apple meant to shift the iPad release cycle from March to September & release a new iPad with a Retina display, lightning connector and A6x chip. People kept requesting Apple to upgrade the iPad line & for some other reasons apple had to release an in completed project. The A6x chip & lightning connector were meant to come with the iPad 3.
I think either they should release iOS 10 for these devices (stripped right down) or continue with 9.X updates which would security and minor other updates to ensure compatiblity. Wouldn't it suck to have bought an iPad mini mid last year only to find that when you update pages on your Mac, you can't update on your iPad and because the new version of pages predictably uses a new file format, your iPad can open your documents.