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hawkeye_a

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Been binging on "Master of None". The main dude is a little anoying, but its a cool show. I think I like it because its very Manhattan.
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PS>> Watched through it for a second time. Great show. And i detect some strong Seinfeld influences.
 
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martint235

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Just watched Black Sails all 4 seasons
Now started on Taken the series
Not exactly binging but have started on American Horror on the weekends so still on series one
 

LizKat

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Well the remaining episodes of Victoria Season 2 were released today along with some of those video snippets about "the making of" &etc. so I've half a season plus those little short ones to binge-watch or else try to make last for awhile. :D
 
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pachyderm

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Pretty good so far.

Production style is very reminiscent of the first 2 years of the Dr.Who series.


I like Neil Gaiman's stuff a lot and can't understand why more of his books aren't turned into films.
 
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I'd read he's pretty selective of what can be done. I can't blame him.

Anyway, rewatching old episodes of Last Man Standing. 10 minutes left and then bed time. Came across a funny show or shows last night on Netflix but I kept drifting in an out of sleep. I can't find it in my viewing history, but it was a generational show and fresh in the wit department.
 

Apple fanboy

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Based on the book. Pretty good so far.

Production style is very reminiscent of the first 2 years of the Dr.Who series.


I like Neil Gaiman's stuff a lot and can't understand why more of his books aren't turned into films.
From 1963? Or did you mean Christopher Ecclesten?

Trouble I find is a lot of shows that start look good but only last a season or two.

I enjoyed the Shannara Chronicles, but looks like season three is dead.
 

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Trouble I find is a lot of shows that start look good but only last a season or two.
Drives me mad. The practice turned me off from regular television for a number of years before easing back in. At least now American networks do a few feeler episodes before ordering a season. Sometimes they cancel a show mid season, doesn't matter which, and won't ever release the remaining episodes of the season or a DVD/BluRay release of that last season or even the previous.
 

theluggage

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I like Neil Gaiman's stuff a lot and can't understand why more of his books aren't turned into films.

Apart from Stardust, Coraline, Mirror Mask, American Gods (Amazon TV series), Good Omens (coming soon on BBC/Amazon) that is... and "The Sandman" and "The Ocean at the End of the Lane" somewhere in development hell (so, maybe). Quite a respectable fraction of his output I'd say.

I don't think he's exactly neglected (and "easy to film" isn't the first thing that comes to mind with his work)!
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Based on the book. Pretty good so far.

Actually, I believe that Neverwhere was written for the BBC series and the book came later...
 
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D.T.

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Apart from Stardust, Coraline, Mirror Mask, American Gods (Amazon TV series), Good Omens (coming soon on BBC/Amazon) that is... and "The Sandman" and "The Ocean at the End of the Lane" somewhere in development hell (so, maybe). Quite a respectable fraction of his output I'd say.

Also add Likely Stories, based on 4 of his short stories, really neat, was a Shudder original, but I believe available PPE on Amazon.
 

LizKat

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Drives me mad. The practice turned me off from regular television for a number of years before easing back in. At least now American networks do a few feeler episodes before ordering a season. Sometimes they cancel a show mid season, doesn't matter which, and won't ever release the remaining episodes of the season or a DVD/BluRay release of that last season or even the previous.

I think this --aka at least fairly often just cowardice in the face of shareholder demand for rising profit margins every quarter-- is what comes naturally from trying to connect a maximum viewership with "something new" but needing to keep costs down.

A quick shutdown of a series seems to disappoint viewers with a variety of taste in entertainment, so it would seem that it's not just a matter of striking out on in some particular genre. Bottom line the bog standard bean counters maybe don't get it yet that there may not really be any such thing as "lowest common denominator" for some categories of entertainment nowadays. If they're only pitching through cable distributors initially, then they don't get to see the potential demand for what they may have called the "rerun market" back in the day but which today may be streaming demand that's out there for a series from the get-go.

Leaving aside the vast hunger in the USA for action adventure content for instance, the rest of demand out there is mostly niche markets, even if some of them are very large. As "cord cutting" becomes more the norm and the middlemen in cable draw less of a veil over actual consumer demand, it's clear that made-for-streaming series will proliferate and probably find ways to make a buck from people paying for more exactly what they want to watch: streaming will diverge into the equivalent of "basic cable" and premium tiers for by-the-episode or by-the-series "first watch" opportunities. Seeing the results of those endeavors should eventually improve the range and quality of series offerings.
 
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theluggage

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Drives me mad. The practice turned me off from regular television for a number of years before easing back in. At least now American networks do a few feeler episodes before ordering a season. Sometimes they cancel a show mid season, doesn't matter which, and won't ever release the remaining episodes of the season or a DVD/BluRay release of that last season or even the previous.

Even worse now that everything has a continuing story arc. Note to writers: your show might get cancelled mid-season, or not picked up for season two. Each subsequent season could be the last. Bear this in mind. Try and tell a complete story in the first half season (even if it isn't the whole story), and certainly have a season "arc" that is resolved at the end of each season. Doesn't mean you can't have multi-season ongoing plots, or even end-of-season cliffhangers (you can resolve a major plot and then throw in a twist) - just make each half-season end with a bit of closure so that it is satisfying to watch.

Plus, 20+ episode "seasons" are too long to spin out one story without lots of padding, anyway. Look at successes like Game of Thrones, Stranger Things etc. and what do you see? 8-10 episode seasons for a start. Stranger Things finishes the story each season (then throws in a loose end for next season) and while GoT has huge ongoing/unresolved storylines and cliffhangers, the last couple of episodes in a season usually resolve one of the major subplots (usually by slaughtering the relevant protagonists).

C.f, say, Emerald City or Ascension which ended without really resolving anything.
 

Mac'nCheese

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Altered Carbon on Netflix is excellent. I’m only up to episode five but I love it and it’s getting better every week.
 
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twietee

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Was thinking about A. Carbon..but started watching Van Helsing instead because I could do with some mindless entertainment back then when I was lying on the couch with a severe cold :D

And to my surprise quite like it, lol. It's indeed completely mindless, characters are paper thin and has rather poor production values but in it's core it's like an uptempo version of the Walking Dead - no overly pretentious b.s. and boring soap opera but plenty of action with some enjoyable twists.

tl/dr: solid 4/10 but so bad it's almost good again.
 

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Anyone hear of Happy! on SyFy? A hyper-violent and vulgar dark comedy starring Christopher Meloni as your anti-hero. I've never finished a series of a show so quickly.
 

pachyderm

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Apart from Stardust, Coraline, Mirror Mask, American Gods (Amazon TV series), Good Omens (coming soon on BBC/Amazon) that is... and "The Sandman" and "The Ocean at the End of the Lane" somewhere in development hell (so, maybe). Quite a respectable fraction of his output I'd say.

I don't think he's exactly neglected (and "easy to film" isn't the first thing that comes to mind with his work)!
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Actually, I believe that Neverwhere was written for the BBC series and the book came later...

Ya know, you're correct on all the above.

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From 1963? Or did you mean Christopher Ecclesten?

Trouble I find is a lot of shows that start look good but only last a season or two.

I enjoyed the Shannara Chronicles, but looks like season three is dead.

I meant from that video tape era. So however many season Dr.Who was video taped.

And I was incorrect, the show came first then the book.

And he has had, as @theluggage so aptly pointed out, had many of his works turned into tv series and films. I'd rather them make films than tv series though.
 

0388631

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Even worse now that everything has a continuing story arc. Note to writers: your show might get cancelled mid-season, or not picked up for season two. Each subsequent season could be the last. Bear this in mind. Try and tell a complete story in the first half season (even if it isn't the whole story), and certainly have a season "arc" that is resolved at the end of each season. Doesn't mean you can't have multi-season ongoing plots, or even end-of-season cliffhangers (you can resolve a major plot and then throw in a twist) - just make each half-season end with a bit of closure so that it is satisfying to watch.

Plus, 20+ episode "seasons" are too long to spin out one story without lots of padding, anyway. Look at successes like Game of Thrones, Stranger Things etc. and what do you see? 8-10 episode seasons for a start. Stranger Things finishes the story each season (then throws in a loose end for next season) and while GoT has huge ongoing/unresolved storylines and cliffhangers, the last couple of episodes in a season usually resolve one of the major subplots (usually by slaughtering the relevant protagonists).

C.f, say, Emerald City or Ascension which ended without really resolving anything.
I don't agree with the too many episodes complaint. The story archs I can agree with. There are shows we watch and sometimes I manage to forget the intricacies of the story at the moment and have to ask what transpired over the last season. I like shows that have their arch within the episode. You can pick any episode and enjoy it. Any season or multi-season story arch is only briefly mentioned.
 

theluggage

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Altered Carbon on Netflix is excellent. I’m only up to episode five but I love it and it’s getting better every week.

Definitely one of the best things for a while.

However, some (not all) of the backstory changes they made from the book gave me a bit of trouble. I can see why they rolled up several characters into Quell (she's standing in for at least 3 people despite just being a book of poems in the first novel) but they take it a bit too far (e.g. her ultimate motivation) to the point of not making sense... and if the Envoys had been fighting for the uprising they'd have won. They made the Meths too openly evil - they needed a veil of respectability to make the rest of the plot work. Also, I think they relied a bit too much on Blade Runner...

Still, they kept the A-plot remarkably true to the book.
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I don't agree with the too many episodes complaint. The story archs I can agree with.

Its the two together that are a problem. If you're going to make stand-alone episodes with occasional recurring storylines (so, e.g. Trek up to and including Voyager) then it doesn't matter - or the Buffy/Dr Who y2k model (stand alone episodes but throwing a few teasers about the end-of-season boss) is OK. Just don't run out of money and resort to clip shows.

However, most new shows now seem to be going for the "novel for television" model and I really don't think that works with more than about 10 episodes per season. I'd cite Battlestar Galactica y2k for that: usually 3-4 great episodes at the start of the season resolving the last season's cliffhanger, a huge bunch of dull filler, saving the budget and creative juices for another few cracking episodes setting up to the next season cliffhanger.

Funny - after seeing huge chunks cut out of novels to make them into 2-hour movies, we're now seeing chunks added to novels to pad them out to 8 hours of TV (or movie trilogies, yes, I'm looking at you Mr Jackson).
 
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