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lunaoso

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I'm interested in the Rose Gold watch but don't like the limited choices of bands. I'll probably get a blue modern buckle from the stainless steel versions if they sell it separately.

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I wouldn't be surprised if it's that or more. Compare "mall watches" in leather vs. stainless steel bands and the difference is usually at least that much, if not more.

Wow you really think they could retail for $200? I was hoping for under $100. If so, I'll be sticking with the default for a while.
 

KPOM

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Wow you really think they could retail for $200? I was hoping for under $100. If so, I'll be sticking with the default for a while.

A Movado Museum watch with a leather strap retails for $595. The same watch with a stainless steel link band retails for $1295. Granted, these watches are usually heavily discounted, but the stainless steel link still sells for considerably more.
 

Julien

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Wow you really think they could retail for $200? I was hoping for under $100. If so, I'll be sticking with the default for a while.

Have you gone to Apple.com to read all the bands' descriptions? I bet the only band under $100 is the fluoroelastomer. Just reading them sound like $200.:eek: Here is the Link Bracelet for example.

Apple.com said:
LINK BRACELET

Crafted from the same 316L stainless steel alloy as the case, the Link Bracelet has more than 100 components. The machining process is so precise, it takes nearly nine hours to cut the links for a single band. In part that’s because they aren’t simply a uniform size, but subtly increase in width as they approach the case. Once assembled, the links are brushed by hand to ensure that the texture follows the contours of the design. The custom butterfly closure folds neatly within the bracelet. And several links feature a simple release button, so you can add and remove links without any special tools. Available in stainless steel and space black stainless steel.
 

Dave245

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Have you gone to Apple.com to read all the bands' descriptions? I bet the only band under $100 is the fluoroelastomer. Just reading them sound like $200.:eek: Here is the Link Bracelet for example.

They make them sound so expensive, but also so good at the same time. I can see most of them being around $200-$300 to buy, especially the steel bracelet.
 

lunaoso

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A Movado Museum watch with a leather strap retails for $595. The same watch with a stainless steel link band retails for $1295. Granted, these watches are usually heavily discounted, but the stainless steel link still sells for considerably more.

I'm was never a big watch guy, and I'm hoping the apple watch can be an entrance into the "watch world". I didn't realize a band could be so expensive! I mean it makes sense because it's stainless steel, I just never really thought about it.
 

Rogifan

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Have you gone to Apple.com to read all the bands' descriptions? I bet the only band under $100 is the fluoroelastomer. Just reading them sound like $200.:eek: Here is the Link Bracelet for example.

Piggie would say that's just marketing speak. ;) :D
 

Julien

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Piggie would say that's just marketing speak. ;) :D

Piggie is on my ignore list after falsely reporting me as trolling after simply quoting some of his/her ridiculous "...Say $100 worth of gold maximum..." "...thin eggshell..." gold case statements.
 

Tycho24

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A Movado Museum watch with a leather strap retails for $595. The same watch with a stainless steel link band retails for $1295. Granted, these watches are usually heavily discounted, but the stainless steel link still sells for considerably more.

Hmmm....
I don't know about all that. I bought my SS Movado Museum piece watch for $500 & don't remember it being on sale OR having a cheaper version available with leather. I was unaware that they had gone up in price $795 in the last ten years.
 

Tom G.

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I've always considered my Pebble Kickstarter edition watch just a substitute until the :apple:watch came out. This was from way back when Apple did not even hint that they were working on a watch.

That being said, if I can afford it (and I am saving my pennies) I think I will go with the space gray watch with the Milanese band.
 

charlituna

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Hey guys. Just curious as to which bands you guys are thinking of getting for your :apple:watch?

A cheap one. Just like I'm getting a cheap body.

Why? Because this is gen one and I suspect that, rather like with the iPad, the gen two will be much snazzier and I will want to upgrade. Unless I decide that the Watch is a waste. I'm moved to try it in part by the fact that I have an iPhone 5S and no iPhone upgrade until a year from now. Sure I could trade in the 5S but the carrier wants me to pay full price so it's still a lot of cash. So either upgrade my phone or use the same money to try the Watch and see if it is worth the hype. Either way I don't see myself having the gen 1 for more than a year so why go all out
 

Tycho24

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A cheap one. Just like I'm getting a cheap body.

Why? Because this is gen one and I suspect that, rather like with the iPad, the gen two will be much snazzier and I will want to upgrade. Unless I decide that the Watch is a waste. I'm moved to try it in part by the fact that I have an iPhone 5S and no iPhone upgrade until a year from now. Sure I could trade in the 5S but the carrier wants me to pay full price so it's still a lot of cash. So either upgrade my phone or use the same money to try the Watch and see if it is worth the hype. Either way I don't see myself having the gen 1 for more than a year so why go all out

Some food for thought:
The Apple Watch bands will almost certainly be compatible for about the first four gens or so. This was discussed earlier & some enterprising MacRumors user did the math... I believe it's at somewhere around 30-40% of the current thickness that the band will need reworking. Obviously it won't loose 70% of its thickness in the 2nd gen.
Feel free to get a band you like! Take care of it... and you will likely be using it for many years to come. =)
 

charlituna

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Some food for thought:
The Apple Watch bands will almost certainly be compatible for about the first four gens or so.

Or they won't be. You really have no basis to say either way. Consider that the 2nd gen ipad was nothing like the first, just as the 2nd gen iphone was a major change from the first. And the 2nd gen Apple TV was a major change.

Apple has no issue with major big leaps between that first and second generation. If the past is any sign it will likely happen here also
 

Tycho24

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Or they won't be. You really have no basis to say either way. Consider that the 2nd gen ipad was nothing like the first, just as the 2nd gen iphone was a major change from the first. And the 2nd gen Apple TV was a major change.

Apple has no issue with major big leaps between that first and second generation. If the past is any sign it will likely happen here also

Hmmm....
Well, I suppose you are welcome to believe what you want. And you are correct that I don't have any insider info... just a strong hunch & a LOT of common sense on my side.
Let's see. Could the band still fit if they add GPS in v2? Yes. If they make 30% thinner? Yes. If they switch to a round shape? Yes. If they make it twice as fast? Yes. If they give it better battery life? Yes. If they add a 3rd size? Yes.

What exactly are these changes you're envisioning that justify changing the band???? Something of which, IF they keep the same- will promote upgrade of the main unit & failure to will HIGHLY discourage upgrading, especially if you've bought a few $100+ bands.

Your iPad analogy doesn't hold.
They didn't change the size of the headphone jack or the charging port out of spite between v1 & v2 and nullify the usefulness of expensive accessories you had purchased. The only accessories different were cases.
 

lunaoso

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Hmmm....
Well, I suppose you are welcome to believe what you want. And you are correct that I don't have any insider info... just a strong hunch & a LOT of common sense on my side.
Let's see. Could the band still fit if they add GPS in v2? Yes. If they make 30% thinner? Yes. If they switch to a round shape? Yes. If they make it twice as fast? Yes. If they give it better battery life? Yes. If they add a 3rd size? Yes.

What exactly are these changes you're envisioning that justify changing the band???? Something of which, IF they keep the same- will promote upgrade of the main unit & failure to will HIGHLY discourage upgrading, especially if you've bought a few $100+ bands.

Your iPad analogy doesn't hold.
They didn't change the size of the headphone jack or the charging port out of spite between v1 & v2 and nullify the usefulness of expensive accessories you had purchased. The only accessories different were cases.

I think the one situation where the old bands would lose compatibility would be if they went for the round body, as the band connection is too long to fit into a circle. But I don't see that happening anyway.
 

Julien

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Jun 30, 2007
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Hmmm....
Well, I suppose you are welcome to believe what you want. And you are correct that I don't have any insider info... just a strong hunch & a LOT of common sense on my side.
Let's see. Could the band still fit if they add GPS in v2? Yes. If they make 30% thinner? Yes. If they switch to a round shape? Yes. If they make it twice as fast? Yes. If they give it better battery life? Yes. If they add a 3rd size? Yes.

What exactly are these changes you're envisioning that justify changing the band???? Something of which, IF they keep the same- will promote upgrade of the main unit & failure to will HIGHLY discourage upgrading, especially if you've bought a few $100+ bands.

Your iPad analogy doesn't hold.
They didn't change the size of the headphone jack or the charging port out of spite between v1 & v2 and nullify the usefulness of expensive accessories you had purchased. The only accessories different were cases.
Apple poured an enormous amount of R&D (relative to the :apple:Watch development) into the band design. The system is extremely well designed and well thought out. This much investment will need to be amortized out over several generations.
 

KPOM

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Hmmm....
I don't know about all that. I bought my SS Movado Museum piece watch for $500 & don't remember it being on sale OR having a cheaper version available with leather. I was unaware that they had gone up in price $795 in the last ten years.

It depends on the style. This one is $795 with a stainless steel band and $595 with leather.
http://www.movado.com/movado-collections/museum/museum-0606504.html

Granted, stainless steel bands last longer (I usually replace leather bands after about 2 years).
 

Tycho24

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Apple poured an enormous amount of R&D (relative to the :apple:Watch development) into the band design. The system is extremely well designed and well thought out. This much investment will need to be amortized out over several generations.

Well put & good point!
I admit, even on the very day of the unveiling I was at least as jaw droppingly impressed with the straps as the watch. I loved listening to Jony describe each in detail. To me, the clues of how much time/energy/$ went into their development, coupled with the modularity of the design & the fact of intergenerational compatibility being a HUGE key to prompting upgrade in this family of devices, that everyone seems to agree will have a longer upgrade cycle than their other two flagship devices... all point HEAVILY toward the straps being around for quite some time! =)
 

Rogifan

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Nov 14, 2011
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There's not much information on Apple's website about how the bands connect to the watch. I'm curious about the two black spots next to the connector. I'm wondering what purpose they serve and if they exist on the rubber straps.

Apple_Watch_Contacts1.jpg
 

Piggie

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Ok, some guessing here.

The two black pads are simply black plastic / rubber pads to take up the slack and stop the metal to metal contact between the strap and the slot in the watch body.

As its metal to metal and there has to be slack do it slips in easy, they are just pads to, as I say take out the slack that's all.

The central metal area in the strap has a spring behind it that you press in with your finger nail as you slide the strap sideways into the groove on the body.

When this, now pressed in central metal pad gets to the centre it finds a recess and springs up, fixing the strap into position.

When you wish to remove the strap, you press the button on the watch, this presses the sprung pad back down again, and whilst pressing you slide the strap out sideways.

That's my engineering based educated guess on how it could all very simply work.
 

paulsdenton

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Oct 9, 2010
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I'm thinking I'll have a silver stainless watch with a black stainless link band. Or maybe vice versa. Or maybe both. Definitely want the contrasting colors though.

Not black, I guess it's space gray.
 
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paulsdenton

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Oct 9, 2010
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Thankfully, I don't wear a watch…….

I haven't done so for over 30 years and can't see that changing any time soon. I seem to manage to be on time more than most, none the less.

It's not a "watch"; it's a wearable computer. I have a beautiful GMT Master but it can't do anything except tell time.

There is a world of difference!!
 

cjmillsnun

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Aug 28, 2009
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Leather yes.

I often wonder why Leather is still seen as a luxury item as it's probably THE most basic and oldest "tech" of any product man has every used.

It wears out, it ages, it cracks, it stretches and does not stretch back (look at car seats that are stretched and creased)

Animal Skin. hmmmmm.

Those car seats have obviously not been looked after properly.

A good clean and hide food are something that should regularly be applied to leather to keep it supple.
 

Piggie

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Those car seats have obviously not been looked after properly.

A good clean and hide food are something that should regularly be applied to leather to keep it supple.

Cracks yes indeed.
But it's the one thing I hate about leather seats in cars and sofa's etc.

You see it new and it looks perfect.
After some use, it gets all stretched and looks real old real quick

Fabric car seats or sofa's when kept clean could still look brand new a decade later. Leather will look stretched REALLY fast.

It's just what it does. I just personally don't like that is does it. :(

I think the only leather seats that don't do this are the really stiff ones that stop the leather from stretching as you sit down onto it.
 
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