Why support them through this exactly ? Let them deal with the issue. You don't owe Apple anything more than the asking price for their products. Why do some people feel the need to "support Apple" anyhow ?
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Why support them through this exactly ? Let them deal with the issue. You don't owe Apple anything more than the asking price for their products. Why do some people feel the need to "support Apple" anyhow ?
Because of Apple's marketing. These people think they are " part of something ", when they don't realize its just a consumer electronics product. And feel the need to ' support ' a company beyond the MSRP asked for their products.
Yeah!
We only need to look back in the past to discover that a present product is freaking amazing. Makes sense.
You do realize that the old app wasn't Google's directly. Rather it was Apple's using Google's data.
I'm more than willing to give Apple a chance. I'm just a little pissed they didn't bake it in the oven a little longer before deciding to foist it upon us as the new default.
It was an apple app that's working foundations where dictated by a contract that google wouldn't budge on
Macrumors has a lovely marketplace where you can offload your Apple products to people who would appreciate them. Or you can sell them and donate the proceeds to charity.
I venture to guess you'd be bitching without the apology or that there was no acknowledgement of the issue at all. You speak of feeling as though your "support" for Apple makes you look like a fool; that is absurd. If you truly think that then I am very sad for you. There are many things you can probably do that make you look foolish, this thread comes to mind, but to feel so emotionally attached in such a way that you feel morally wounded when someone apologies for cocking up an application seems a bit odd to me.
To answer your question; no, I am in no way mad or disappointed in the apology. I would like for the maps app to be improved quickly as I had my first run in with missing information today while out on a walk.
That would be insane, really! How else can people pass the time until the next iPhone comes out?!
MobileME, the original iphone discounts, etc
At least look at a ****ing wiki before you just blatantly lie.
So... you're saying we should look at how Apple made a Maps app in iOS 1 using Google's back-end and then went on to never update it for over 4 other versions of iOS (2 to 5).
And then you're saying based on this failure of Apple to maintain the original application they made using Google's back-end, we should now trust them to update and maintain this new Maps application based on their own back-end ?
I don't quite follow your logic here...
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Uh ? Google would budge. Google offered all the new features to Apple in exchange for clear branding on their datasets and that Apple build in Latitude support rather than forcing Google to offer it as a 3rd party download on the App Store.
Apple decided that wasn't worth it and that they'd rather do their own backend, resulting in what we have now.
Their hands were never exactly tied. It all basically boils down to a spat between two large companies who couldn't find a happy medium on an issue.
I think the only real question here is why we have to turn this into a Good vs. Evil situation.
People seem to be under the delusion that anything Apple is doing today only originated after Jobs' death. Either that, or they just want to pretend to be that dumb so they can make up another excuse to hate Apple and to look down their big, fat noses at people who actually have a rational view of things.
I love my iPad, and I'm about to trade in my Blackberry for an iPhone only because the Blackberry just isn't working for me anymore. I'm no "Apple fanboy," but I'm also not so pathetic that I need to invent excuses to hate on a company and a product line when all they have to do is NOT BUY APPLE PRODUCTS and stay the hell out of forums where people actually like Apple products.
I love my iPad, and I'm about to trade in my Blackberry for an iPhone only because the Blackberry just isn't working for me anymore. I'm no "Apple fanboy," but I'm also not so pathetic that I need to invent excuses to hate on a company and a product line when all they have to do is NOT BUY APPLE PRODUCTS and stay the hell out of forums where people actually like Apple products.
How does that correlate to Apple updating something when their hands "aren't" tied ?
(Apple still relies on 3rd parties for mapping data, except now instead of querying the source, they integrate it in a back-end of their own, something that led to many of the mistakes we see as the TomTom data doesn't show the same mistakes in the TomTom fed Apple maps).
Still don't follow your logic...
umm it was Apple's job to update it. Google only provided the data. The front end and what not was Apple's job. Something Apple failed to deliever one.
The orginal map app sucking was 99% Apple's doing and Apple's fault
Nope....better than the iPhone. Get used to it. Timmy killed the iPhone.
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They won't be dead, they'll be a tiny company making cheap quality copycats of what the big guys are making.
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Jobs was man enough to fight with google but make good business decisions like using google maps.
Timmy is the stupid little child who wants to take his ball and go home and screw over apple users.
Did you check out the alternatives? I think it was brilliant marketing by Apple. Apple Maps isn't so bad after I saw the other non Google alternatives. I am sure Apple will "Double Down" on maps.
Well... I think one actually needs much courage to admit one's wrong and apologizes. Probably you should be proud of him for doing that instead no? I find it nice to hear that, it makes the company more humanistic to me. I think if he came out and said there's nothing wrong with it, then that'd be foolish. But still he would only make a fool of himself and embarrassed the company, not the 'fans' no?
You aren't serious are you?
The mouse. The graphical user interface. The network. There's a huge list of tech from 80's to 2000's apple ripped off, all they've ever done is put it an a pretty package and market it.
Are you too much an apple noobie to remember the rumours websites around the iPhone in 2007? They got so much from palmOS (Handspring Treo?) and RIM. The whole concept of iOS apps is something they stole from the jailbreak community.
Fast forward to 2012, what has apple added to the iPhone in the past 2 years they haven't stolen? Notifications, wireless synching, split keyboard all stolen from android? Apple has done nothing original for years, and the iPhone 5 shows they're doing a really crappy second rate job of copying everyone else.
The Tim Cook Apology was the Right Thing to do. Why?
Because the Tim Cook Apology proves that Apple.... a proud, large, financially successful, tech juggernaut.... has not yet been blinded by TOTAL HUBRIS.
Being blinded by total hubris would make ANY apology impossible. Hubris would have made it impossible for Apple to admit any mistake, or to admit that any of their products were not up to the high standards expected of them.
Can any of you here state that Microsoft or IBM or any of the other tech juggernauts have issued major CEO-level apologies in the past? Did Microsoft ever apologize for that craptastical bomb known as Windows Vista?
Did Gates or Ballmer ever come out in a news press and say "Sorry guys. After years of denial, we finally admit it. Vista was totally sub-par. We apologize for letting Windows users down. Yeah, we even noticed that so many of our Windows veterans were willing to retrograde back to Windows XP. That's how stinky it was. Unfortunately, that's all behind us now, and we promise to do better in the future. Please accept our apologies."
Hubris.
Hubris is probably one of the reasons (among others) why Microsoft fell from its position of Numero Uno to an also-ran these days. Even the tech media tends to ignore Microsoft these days in favor of Apple news, Samsung news, and Google news, etc.
As for that Tim Cook Great Apology of 2012? It was spot on. It proved to me that Apple Leadership under Cook, while proud and sometimes prone to missteps, still has not reached the levels of blinding hubris. And that is a good thing. It still gives me hope in Apple.
Because the Tim Cook Apology proves that Apple.... a proud, large, financially successful, tech juggernaut.... has not yet been blinded by TOTAL HUBRIS.
Being blinded by total hubris would make ANY apology impossible. Hubris would have made it impossible for Apple to admit any mistake, or to admit that any of their products were not up to the high standards expected of them.
Can any of you here state that Microsoft or IBM or any of the other tech juggernauts have issued major CEO-level apologies in the past? Did Microsoft ever apologize for that craptastical bomb known as Windows Vista?
Did Gates or Ballmer ever come out in a news press and say "Sorry guys. After years of denial, we finally admit it. Vista was totally sub-par. We apologize for letting Windows users down. Yeah, we even noticed that so many of our Windows veterans were willing to retrograde back to Windows XP. That's how stinky it was. Unfortunately, that's all behind us now, and we promise to do better in the future. Please accept our apologies."
Hubris.
Hubris is probably one of the reasons (among others) why Microsoft fell from its position of Numero Uno to an also-ran these days. Even the tech media tends to ignore Microsoft these days in favor of Apple news, Samsung news, and Google news, etc.
As for that Tim Cook Great Apology of 2012? It was spot on. It proved to me that Apple Leadership under Cook, while proud and sometimes prone to missteps, still has not reached the levels of blinding hubris. And that is a good thing. It still gives me hope in Apple.
Oh, right, here I was talking about the iPhone.
Also, there is a difference between an inspiration and a straight-up copy-job. The notifications are not like on Android, Android's are much better. Everything else you mentioned is pretty basic. Split keyboard isn't exactly a world-shattering innovation. Wireless syncing? Yawn. Listen, you try to sell a phone with those two things. See how quickly you get laughed out of the room.
Ha hahaha ha. Tell the truth, you ripped off that reply from a samsung fanboy, right?
So when Apple copies features off the competition, it's "pretty basic, an inspiration no-more", but when the competition takes an Apple feature it's "IP Theft on a grand scale, and should be punished by having all their assets seized and given to Apple!"
Gotcha.