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Who has or is planning to get an electric car / EV Talk
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We all chose what is important to us in a car. Tesla certainly got the charging network and the payment for said charging spot on. Paying by card can have its issues.
But that’s the only thing I would want from a Tesla. I don’t need a huge family car or self driving beta programs.
I also won’t buy any car that doesn’t have wireless CarPlay.
Yup, we need to spend our money where it makes sense to us personally.
One more box was checked off for me, after I was able to install SiriusXM in my TMY. I will be happy when they eventually find a way to include Waze API, and SiriusXM as an app.
We don’t have Sirius here. DAB radio is installed in just about every car they made in the last 10 years.
Hopefully Waze is coming to Tesla sometimes soon. However, I do miss SiriusXM. If an apple music app can be added to the software a SiriusXM app can be added.
If you have an intel atom based TM3, you can add SiriusXM. I did it last week to my 2021 TMY…
Yeah, this is what I was doing too. I still do if I want to stream a show, or listen to a stream only channel.
Agreed, if you are a big miler per day commuter/driver yes a level 1 would take planning. On the bell curve those drivers know who they are and know they are not the average.
Also saying “10% over a 12 hour period” is either a specific statement about a specific vehicle or a broad statement about no vehicle.
12 hours for my car would net me 60%
Naturally depends on how many miles one does per day.
For us, a typical charge would be saying 60% of the capacity currently daily. Say one gets the maximum possible 3kW, that means it takes 12.2 hours to charge. That is 12.2 hours in a day that the car can't be used. So either we couldn't charge it back up daily and ultimately can't drive how we want unless publicly charging at significantly increased costs.
But yes, if one does very low mileage it is possible, I'd get a bicycle though, much healthier
We couldn't. I wouldn't also want to lose the luxury of a tethered charger. I've used EV long enough now to know that the experience just isn't the same, and would get rapidly annoying.
Again, it’s specific to you and your driving, and your comfortability. As the young folks that turned 30 used to say when they are young, “you do you”.
Yes riding a bike would be healthy, but i would rather my 30-50 mile a day driving would not be fun in non good weather. But hey that’s my lazy butt “me doing me”.
Oh course it’s specific to me. I’m me not you, and in a discussion we share our own experiences.
The maths and physics frame this conversation though. You are limited to a maximum of 3kW/hr before losses. So regardless of anything 12 hours will never be more than a theoretical maximum of 36kW. And when charging you can’t use it. That has nothing to do with me, or anyone else. It just is what it is.
If that works for you great. 👍
I can only comment on my experience and a slight exaggeration when I said 10% over 12 hours. I have only tried to charge off a standard domestic 240v socket once and that was when we had a Kia Niro for a few weeks as a loan car. We didn't have a dedicated EV socket at that point. To charge the car from 10% to 80%, the estimate was 44 hours, so just over 1.5% charge per hour. We didn't let it run for that time and it gave enough for my wife to get to work on the Monday and top up for free. Maybe our Audi has a better battery and this time estimate would be much more reduced, I have not tried.
I would not count on Waze coming. A lot of signs point to Google sunsetting Waze.
So much of Waze has been moved over to maps and Google Waze sdk is just not getting updated. It still does not support the M1+ architecture and Google seems to not care to recompile it for it. Hence it seems to be sunsetting it.
Waze has a clean uncluttered interface which I like...not to mention road obstacles and the like. Maps doesn't have that yet. But that aside bring on a SMX app or a Tesla app store
I would not even count much on that one either. There is very little incentive to spend the resources to do that. The engineering department at Sirus XM is smaller than you think. Carplay, and Android Auto killed a lot of incentives to invest in one off manufacturer SDKs. This followed by Andriod Automotive that so many major players have move to and Android Automotive makes porting over an android app fairly easy.
I also know the Ford SDK ranks way above the Tesla SDK in terms of wanting to invest resources into it and even that companies don't care to do it. Ford's SDK is used by multiple legacy manufacturers.
End of the day Tesla's are just to small of a market to make it worth investing the millions to do the work.
I'm counting on Tesla to do this work. Of course it could be so much wishful thinking, but my thought is that since software makes the Telsa vehicles this is just another checkbox ticked off for potential buyers. Of course the Model S and X have proper satellite radio hardware.
Even though Telsa's as a percentage of sales to other manufacturers are small, Teslas' vehicles already have youtube, spotify, apple music, netflix, hulu and more. Their software supports apis so that apps such as scan-my-telsa can exist.
Doesn't seem to be a big leap either get SiriusXM or a Tesla app store.
edit: I wanted to add my Denon receiver can hook into SiriusXM....so I believe the APIs are already there and Tesla would be the one to develop the app.
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The companies you listed with apps also have much larger engineering departments and much deeper pockets. Plus it depends how they built the apps in the first place. Also they all already creating a good SDK, API endpoints an external app could hit and use,
In terms of Tesla doing it you still need to go back to Siris XM as chances are very high they lack any type of SDK or API endpoints Tesla can use. That type of engineer is a pretty big change. I highly doubt SirisXM has the resource right now do make the API system and it is massive huge lift to do so. I have done that before in my career and it is hard. Siris XM just does not have that unlike netflix, hulu, spotify and youtube.
It is all about engineering life on SiriusXM and they just dont have it right now and honestly money from Tesla users are not high enough for that.
I believe SiriusXM already has the infrastructure in place to do an app. The app would have to be coded, probably by Tesla. My evidence for this is my Denon receiver can access my SiriusXM account and therefore I believe that SiriusXM has already done the hard work. So Telsa could use the published api with their resources. Not to mention SiriusXM is on multiple platforms including my Samsung TV. So I don't believe this is a lift at all from Sirius. I've done code once run anywhere apps, it's not that difficult.
There's even an API that Echo devices use. SXM is moving their focus to streaming (has been for a while), they have way more streaming only channels vs channels available via satellite.
I also agree that Tesla should build it, but Tesla need to do a better job with it vs their programming for satellite (Tesla develops the software and app icons). They haven't done the best job with it. They removed the ability to directly tune to a channel via typing in the number, they also do not have a tile for all channels (so when searching all channels, channels like 307 Moonbug radio are missing). You have to play around to get to the channel (tune to a channel below, then channel up on the steering wheel button to get there).
With a 2 year old that commutes 3 hours a day with me, Moonbug radio is a must (I switch between Kids Place, Moonbug Radio, and Disney). There are 3 other nursery rhyme channels that are Pandora stream only.
No no no. You’re doing it wrong. Get your three year old into the decent stuff. Some Queen or Aerosmith! 🤪
No no no. You’re doing it wrong. Get your three year old into the decent stuff. Some Queen or Aerosmith!
Mine are listening to Deftones and Rage Against the Machine when they are in the car with me.