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What I neglected to say was I agree with you the sxm app is great if you’re not driving. But it is very driver unfriendly.
Having an app and even having a web app that uses internal APIs is very different than API/ SDK that the general public can use and develop against. Not saying that they could not reuse even most of those APIs. It just a lot bigger of a lift to get something set up for a 3rd party to use ones api's. The rules are different. Hell developing API for mobile internally is a pain as so many people forget mobile has different rules it is required to play by.
There is just something different when say I as a mobile developer can go to the API team and work something with them directly. I also have more access to know how things are work, how profiles are tied together and so on. The security setup for a company messing with logins and what nots is so much simpler when on internal stuff.
I am just saying the engineering lift is a lot bigger than you think.
Someone has kids.
My daughter will go to my Google homes and say "play shark do do, Play shark do do". poor girl has not figured out the key word that goes infront of it.
The other one she likes is "play Ooga-Chak". Google can figure it out.
As far as an SXM app on Tesla. I'm not saying it's as easy as coding "Hello World", but I don't think it's as big as an effort as you believe.
At any rate I fully admit a Telsa based SMX app is rumors and wishful thinking. Tesla comes out with their holiday edition update before the end of year and we'll see if there are any surprises.
If they do, I sure hope they integrate the Waze interface as an option in Google maps. I love the live reporting and clean interface, which is everything Google maps isn’t. Wishful thing though I bet, it’ll probably be like when Apple retired Dark Sky and literally destroyed a very good weather app.
US Tesla buyer question:
What are your thoughts on the new 2024 M3 Highland Tesla ?
Would you buy an older '23 M3 with the full tax credit before 2023 ends or get the '24 M3 with half credit applied at time of purchase (POS)?
Since Highland isn’t available here currently, and we have no idea when it will come, I wouldn’t wait for it to come, since they have to retool factories before they can make the change.
I do like the highland (from reviews), I only would miss the indicator stalk. I can survive without the wiper stalk. I wouldn’t let that hold me back from buying one, if I was looking.
I would buy the ‘23 with more discount, rather than wait for a ‘24 with less. I don’t think there are any changes between the models, so why not get it as cheap as possible?
My wife is looking at the Tesla (not my cup of tea).
She test drove the '23 M3 RWD and found the ride harsh on rough roads (common in LA).
From the reviews, the '24 Highland has better suspension and noise reductions inside & out.
Maybe the deal maker would be a lifetime SuperCharger access like the original Model S ???
The new M3 is the first Tesla I would actually consider, and its available in my regionUS Tesla buyer question:
What are your thoughts on the new 2024 M3 Highland Tesla ?
Would you buy an older '23 M3 with the full tax credit before 2023 ends or get the '24 M3 with half credit applied at time of purchase (POS)?
So yes, no doubt about it. The new one over the old one, no question. It's better looking, better build, better driving, more luxurious experience, and incredible value for money....
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I would buy the current version if you like the signalling stalks and more traditional gear selector! Kind of a big deal for some peopleUS Tesla buyer question:
What are your thoughts on the new 2024 M3 Highland Tesla ?
Would you buy an older '23 M3 with the full tax credit before 2023 ends or get the '24 M3 with half credit applied at time of purchase (POS)?
Agreed. I think the no indicator stork should not be allowed. Downright dangerous. Especially for countries with roundabouts. Can’t wait to have people driving around not letting others know where they are going.I would buy the current version if you like the signalling stalks and more traditional gear selector! Kind of a big deal for some people
It does beg the question when so many people do not seem to use their indicators, would they now be even less likely to use them now they are a button? Rhetorical of course. I think k the new Model 3 is a nicer looking car and if they’ve improved the cabin quality then it’s a bonus, but those wanting a Tesla will be able to take a dog the pre face lift discounts that are bound to be coming.
You should try driving in Wales, it’s rare people use indicators where I love, especially on roundabouts. It used to be a joke about BMW drivers not signalling but now it seems to be most people and a lot more of the older generation too.
Well as a member of the older generation and a BMW driver I always use mine!
Go for the Highland. It has significant improvements. Heated and cooled seats, double paned glass all around, better stereo. Supposed to have improved motors with better efficiency. It looks better too. Don't know if you can get it in Europe with the silver and red that the Berlin plant has for their model Y's but that too is a plus. Personally, I'm waiting for the model Y Juniper with all that neat stuff. Don't really care about the ambient lighting or the fabric dash cover. I can live without the stalks. When Tesla comes out with the model 2 I think it will be game over for the oems....as long as it is around the $25-30K.
Do you know what the tire pressure was in that test vehicle?
One feature I love in my Bolt are the ventilated (dark blue leather, both warm and cool) seats, and it seems they are available on the new M3 but certainly not on the old one, and in LA area they’d be even more beneficial.
Financially it makes more sense now, current model price has come down, and the fed tax credit will apply rather soon.
I’d be surprised if the new version wouldn’t have a higher price, and, when can you actually get it?
Don't know the tire pressures of the demo M3 but it was a rough ride - worse than my Ford Mustang Mach E.
Yes, the pricing is very good - $39K before tax, title, license or federal IRA tax credit.
The new Highland is actually priced the same as the outgoing '23 M4.
Unfortunately, the Highland will be half the tax credit ($3750) in 2024, so that's why my wife is asking if getting the older '23 is better with a full $7500 tax credit.
I don't think Tesla will make that offer again. As it stands right now you can use someone referral code and get 6 months of free Supercharging. Or maybe they have swapped that with FSD, I haven't looked recently.
I'd wait for the Highland, if I were her. From reviews the interior and ride quality are vastly improved. Just consider the 3750 of tax credit lost as going towards a better set of coilovers with out you actually having to buy them.
Yes definitely, when you look at reviews from the Netherlands where it has been available it is a significant improvement. Now whether you'd notice if you didn't have a TM3 before is another matter, but besides the coil overs and the old interior and build quality, I'd also say that you'd make the missed tax credit back come the time to get rid of it as it will be the much more popular model.
What's the reasoning for this hatred of Tesla, genuinely? Seems like you can't stand those that blindly defend them, but here you are doing the same thing in reverse. I have one, it has its faults but in the UK they are the only ones who have made any serious attempt at a charging network which alone puts them above many other manufacturers. The cars are reasonably put together, I have 50k miles on mine and not once have I had to take it in for any kind of issue. They are certainly not the last car I'd buy.
My guess is people don't like the CEO so they choose not to buy from them.
In a way I get it, most people cannot name the CEO of the vehicle brand they drive. Which is how it is supposed to be. Elon has always been an outspoken "celebrity" in that respect.
That is a very outdated view. Sure, Tesla is an energy company that makes cars, and I'll give them all the credit they deserve for facilitating the change in the landscape. No doubt about it. However, they haven't been the only game in town, and it is not for car manufacturers to have their own charging infrastructure, that is the wrong way of looking at it.
The Tesla supercharger network has been opened up for a while now, at first, I thought cool. However, in the past 2 years, 35K miles across 9 European countries (with base in the UK) I've never had a need to actually use them. There is so much choice available.
At first, I had range anxiety, but actually as good as any EV car on sale can go further than is safe to drive continuously. Then I had charger anxiety, and theoretical Tesla envy, but that is also unwarranted. I don't even plan my journeys around it, the car simply indicates the needs and can filter by the networks and speed I prefer. Or if I require a stop/break I just hit that find me a charger button and can see instant local availability.
Times have changed.
I am sure that new EV drivers still go through the same phases, including Tesla drivers who may be anxious about not having their supercharger network. In reality, there are no problems.Yup, he is too controversial. I don't mind opinionated, but his opinions are rather unpleasant ones.
Absolutely, and being more objective about it, me personally won't use that against him not buying the brand/make. I mean, I find his views abhorrent but in a way he expresses them, and we just don't know without digging about the others.
What stopped me from buying Tesla was way more superficial, and subjective. I mean, just look at them 🥹 The styling is, well, not very refined. The build quality was terrible. I also found the seating position a compromise due to their seats and the skateboard platform. Feels like I'm sitting in the children's chairs from kindergarten with my knees in my face. Having seen and experienced the new TM3 I like the direction their cars are taking. Much less Toyota then I thought they were heading. Now if the TMS and TMX also get such updates, they could become very interesting indeed.
In my opinion ofcourse.
With respect, I disagree as far as the UK is concerned. I have never had range anxiety precisely because of the Super Charger network, which many of my non-Tesla colleagues do still suffer with as it is still a real problem. Maybe Europe is better. As for not wanting car manufacturers to have their own charging infrastructure, I agree. But what is the alternative? BP charging 90p a kW/hr? Tesla is pretty cheap in general compared to the alternative.That is a very outdated view. Sure, Tesla is an energy company that makes cars, and I'll give them all the credit they deserve for facilitating the change in the landscape. No doubt about it. However, they haven't been the only game in town, and it is not for car manufacturers to have their own charging infrastructure, that is the wrong way of looking at it.
The Tesla supercharger network has been opened up for a while now, at first, I thought cool. However, in the past 2 years, 35K miles across 9 European countries (with base in the UK) I've never had a need to actually use them. There is so much choice available.
At first, I had range anxiety, but actually as good as any EV car on sale can go further than is safe to drive continuously. Then I had charger anxiety, and theoretical Tesla envy, but that is also unwarranted. I don't even plan my journeys around it, the car simply indicates the needs and can filter by the networks and speed I prefer. Or if I require a stop/break I just hit that find me a charger button and can see instant local availability.
Times have changed.