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Sensors won’t read heart rate and it also doesn’t read that I’m wearing the watch constantly. So I would always have to put in my password 🤦🏻‍♂️

Workouts would always stop on me. Took me a while to figure out what was going on.
Oh I see. Yeah makes sense.
 
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Neodym

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Absolutely. Because a bracelet with a display (especially a display that has the time on it) would be considered a watch.
Probably a question of definition. But as English is not my native language, it’d be hard for me to really argue about that :)

And do you think in the 50’s, when the average watch sizes were 35-37mm, there were no hard of seeing people wearing them? Usually when people get to the point of having a hard time seeing the clock face on a watch, they get their eyes checked and get glasses. I know I will when the time comes. I’m not gonna buy something that looks absurd on my wrist just to avoid the fact I need glasses.
In the 50s, many more people probably used a pocket watch, a clock tower, the sun or simply asked someone else to help them out, when they could not read their watch anymore. In general, people were much less dependent on having to know the exact time at any given time (pun not intended).

I already have to wear glasses and still prefer to get along without whenever possible, because without wearing glasses yourself, you can hardly imagine how annoying and irritating glasses can be in so many situations!

To the usual annoyance glasses can be, come “niceties” like needing varifocals eventually, which are not as easy or nice to use as it may sound. And constantly switching reading glasses with „normal“ glasses also gets tiring very quickly. On top of it, eyesight doesn’t switch once and then stands still, but instead you have to update the glasses every 2-3 years to accommodate the ongoing worsening. This is tedious at best and may even be costly.

Apart from the problem that realities of life are different in theory and practice, physics likes to have a word in that discussion as well. A classical watch has very limited space to offer, so - irrespective of technological progress - you can always have more battery and more/better tech, when you have more room available.

With current (and foreseeable) tech in traditional Watch sizes, an AppleWatch will always be limited in its functionality and user experience and sometimes be nothing more than a sidekick for an external hub a.k.a. iPhone.

One of the basic ideas of a wearable is hands-free operation, which is not possible when using an iPhone for the heavy lifting. And as input interface, a traditional Watch is way too small and voice has several major problems when used in public.

You may find the idea of a digital XXL bracelet on your wrist „absurd“ - I find the idea fascinating! I may have a different POV there, as I like SF and also liked the AppleWatch as Series 0, when you could hear and read many young people who could not imagine wearing a watch at all, let alone a micro-computer on their wrist.

Heck, I can even remember the time when a cellphone was considered absurd, as people were not used to make phone calls in public outside of a phone booth.

Apple knows exactly what they’re doing when targeting the majority. That’s why they won’t compromise with a massive watch in order to compete with others that get 5-7 days of battery life. Just as they won’t compromise in the thickness of the iPhone to get 2-4 days of battery life vs a day to a day and a half. They will continue to stay true to the design they choose until the technology of batteries get better, or the components inside get small so they can fit a larger battery in it.

But that’s JMO 👊😃👍
I do agree that Apple usually knows it’s audience. I also agree that they won’t go for a massively oversized Watch. But the interface issues with a comparably small Watch is not only output, but also input. Voice interaction can only go so far, especially in public (and with Siri growing dumber every year, it seems).

Therefore I’m convinced that they will continue to grow the display size (which is what they did quite regularly since they left the „fashion item“ approach) - whether with a new product category eventually (like a bracelet) or via new tech, e.g. using the rumored AppleGlasses as huge private screen.

The latter may even make a Watch obsolete in the long run, if they manage to solve the input problem. Thus I‘m interested to see the future Apple approach.
 
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Absolutely. Because a bracelet with a display (especially a display that has the time on it) would be considered a watch.

And do you think in the 50’s, when the average watch sizes were 35-37mm, there were no hard of seeing people wearing them? Usually when people get to the point of having a hard time seeing the clock face on a watch, they get their eyes checked and get glasses. I know I will when the time comes. I’m not gonna buy something that looks absurd on my wrist just to avoid the fact I need glasses.

Apple knows exactly what they’re doing when targeting the majority. That’s why they won’t compromise with a massive watch in order to compete with others that get 5-7 days of battery life. Just as they won’t compromise in the thickness of the iPhone to get 2-4 days of battery life vs a day to a day and a half. They will continue to stay true to the design they choose until the technology of batteries get better, or the components inside get small so they can fit a larger battery in it.

But that’s JMO 👊😃👍
If only it were so simple as… just get glasses! Glasses are not miraculous. I need one very high prescription for distance, a different one for reading, plus I have an astigmatism. And I’m simply not correctable to 20/20, even though I get by.

For contacts I wear a distance prescription in one eye and a reading prescription in the other, though the trade off is that neither is as good as it could be.
 
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If only it were so simple as… just get glasses! Glasses are not miraculous. I need one very high prescription for distance, a different one for reading, plus I have an astigmatism. And I’m simply not correctable to 20/20, even though I get by.

For contacts I wear a distance prescription in one eye and a reading prescription in the other, though the trade off is that neither is as good as it could be.
I do understand it’s not as easy as just getting glasses. And I’m sorry you have go through all that to correct so many different vision issues. That truly does seem like a pain 😖

I’m just saying it’s one step I would take if I started having issues seeing my watch. I have 20/25 vision. But I’m getting to the point I can’t read as easy up close as I used to. Just not committing to reading glasses yet because I don’t want to be dependent on them, yet.

My point being (for me) is that I wouldn’t wear a huge watch in order to have the time on my wrist. Let alone notifications that I can get on my phone.

Everyone has their own style and some like massive watches. That’s all good. Just don’t think Apple is gonna make one that large, 49mm or above.
 

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I am. I messed up my series 4 watch and am now going to wait for series 8... whichever the bigger screen size is.
 

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Well it will take more than a temp sensor to persuade me to sell my S7 for an S8. A larger size would do it, as long as the bigger battery equates to longer runtime.

But then I read that Ti might go by the wayside? I like the natural Ti watches.

So many variables....just have to wait and see.
 

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Very suddenly all the guys at work are wearing gigantic watches, some apple, some not. Almost competition-like. That happened quick.

I got a couple of 44mm and they are almost too big for me, I prefer the smaller one, but whatever, different strokes.

OP thinks the gigantic smart watch on his wrist is comically small. Only thing comical is how tight the band fits him, and the watch face in rainbow. Show that photo to anyone in the year 2013 and they’d be like WOAH that’s bigger than I thought it’d be.

And OP is tired of the watch looking like a toy on his wrist but is wearing the swiss cheese plastic happy meal band….in white! Try another band. And again, that rainbow watch face lol sorry.
 
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Indianwin2001

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Very suddenly all the guys at work are wearing gigantic watches, some apple, some not. Almost competition-like. That happened quick.

I got a couple of 44mm and they are almost too big for me, I prefer the smaller one, but whatever, different strokes.

OP thinks the gigantic smart watch on his wrist is comically small. Only thing comical is how tight the band fits him, and the watch face in rainbow. Show that photo to anyone in the year 2013 and they’d be like WOAH that’s bigger than I thought it’d be.

And OP is tired of the watch looking like a toy on his wrist but is wearing the swiss cheese plastic happy meal band….in white! Try another band. And again, that rainbow watch face lol sorry.
Totally disagree with your take. The OP is wearing a very popular band, the colors on his watch face look good to me AND the watch DOES look small on his wrist. He is a large man.
 

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Totally disagree with your take. The OP is wearing a very popular band, the colors on his watch face look good to me AND the watch DOES look small on his wrist. He is a large man.

Yep fashion is all about taste. I understand it’s a very popular band. In fact, I have one myself and wear it a few times a month. It’s kind of fun and summery I think, but kinda silly and not for all occasions. However, if he wants a watch that doesn’t look like a “toy” he has totally picked the wrong band and watch face.

Edit: and your choice of word “popular” is spot on. With Apple Watch , you see so many people wearing the same exact thing. And the way you see something on someone else might not look exactly how you see it on yourself, and vice versa. Just because something is made available at retail and you see it on other people does not necessarily make it the most appropriate choice for you.
 
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Yep fashion is all about taste. I understand it’s a very popular band. In fact, I have one myself and wear it a few times a month. It’s kind of fun and summery I think, but kinda silly and not for all occasions. However, if he wants a watch that doesn’t look like a “toy” he has totally picked the wrong band and watch face.

Edit: and your choice of word “popular” is spot on. With Apple Watch , you see so many people wearing the same exact thing. And the way you see something on someone else might not look exactly how you see it on yourself, and vice versa. Just because something is made available at retail and you see it on other people does not necessarily make it the most appropriate choice for you.
See, that depends on use case. I use mine for my workouts and don't really care about the fashion aspect. Its a tool for me. I transfer everything into Training Peaks to get data on my training and health.
 

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See, that depends on use case. I use mine for my workouts and don't really care about the fashion aspect. Its a tool for me. I transfer everything into Training Peaks to get data on my training and health.

Absolutely, I agree. It’s the appropriate band for working out and stuff. It’s great for that. But OP does seem to be concerned about how it looks.
 
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Absolutely, I agree. It’s the appropriate band for working out and stuff. It’s great for that. But OP does seem to be concerned about how it looks.
I do apologize for wearing that bend and that watch face. If you could please forgive me as I have sinned. I promise I will turn my life around and one day you will be proud of me. 😞
 
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I do apologize for wearing that bend and that watch face. If you could please forgive me as I have sinned. I promise I will turn my life around and one day you will be proud of me. 😞
You’re forgiven, my son. Only trying to help your dilemma of perceiving your watch as a toy. Blessings be 😁
 

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Yep fashion is all about taste. I understand it’s a very popular band. In fact, I have one myself and wear it a few times a month. It’s kind of fun and summery I think, but kinda silly and not for all occasions. However, if he wants a watch that doesn’t look like a “toy” he has totally picked the wrong band and watch face.

Edit: and your choice of word “popular” is spot on. With Apple Watch , you see so many people wearing the same exact thing. And the way you see something on someone else might not look exactly how you see it on yourself, and vice versa. Just because something is made available at retail and you see it on other people does not necessarily make it the most appropriate choice for you.
I‘m curious: What qualifies you to boldly define what is considered “toyish” and what is “appropriate” for other people? Or was it just your personal opinion, dressed in very - let’s call it self-confident - words?
 

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The watch face and band is whatever, personal choice. But I would suggest wearing the watch a little higher on the wrist, using the wrist bone as a stopper.

This is probably more important with Apple Watch or other activity bands as a loose band or lower placement might make the measurements from the sensors less accurate.

Also it helps (AW) from keeping inadvertent crown presses from happening (for those who wear it outward facing)
 

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I‘m curious: What qualifies you to boldly define what is considered “toyish” and what is “appropriate” for other people? Or was it just your personal opinion, dressed in very - let’s call it self-confident - words

Lol whatever. The dude said his watch looks like a toy. He thinks it’s because it’s too small. I think it might be because he should change its look. What qualifies you to vilify my so called words , even if they are my personal opinion? Am I not allowed to have one of those here on MacRumors, oh MacRumors “Demi god?”
 

Indianwin2001

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Lol whatever. The dude said his watch looks like a toy. He thinks it’s because it’s too small. I think it might be because he should change its look. What qualifies you to vilify my so called words , even if they are my personal opinion? Am I not allowed to have one of those here on MacRumors, oh MacRumors “Demi god?”
Lol. Whatever. Go do a workout. THAT is what the watch is for.
 

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Lol. Whatever. Go do a workout. THAT is what the watch is for.

You just said a few posts up that it depends on use case scenario, and now you’re saying it’s only for working out. Is it that hard be consistent in your opinion these days?
 

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Lol whatever. The dude said his watch looks like a toy. He thinks it’s because it’s too small. I think it might be because he should change its look. What qualifies you to vilify my so called words , even if they are my personal opinion? Am I not allowed to have one of those here on MacRumors, oh MacRumors “Demi god?”
You voiced your „personal opinion“ in a way that made it difficult to me (and probably others as well) to recognize it as that. I also fail to see where I actually „vilified“ your words. But perhaps the OP felt that you vilified his personal taste with your comments?!

Your sarcasm can not conceal my impression that it seems partly challenging to you to find the proper wording in a discussion and at the same time take responsibility for your words. Feel free to prove me wrong, though.
 
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You voiced your „personal opinion“ in a way that made it difficult to me (and probably others as well) to recognize it as that. I also fail to see where I actually „vilified“ your words. But perhaps the OP felt that you vilified his personal taste with your comments?!

Your sarcasm can not conceal my impression that it seems partly challenging to you to find the proper wording in a discussion and at the same time take responsibility for your words. Feel free to prove me wrong, though.
Perhaps the OP did feel vilified by my opinion. Was it necessary for you to come and point out that my words may have caused him to feel that way? I don’t think so. He’s a big boy, as we all well know by now.

But you are living up to your demi god status by pointing out that I may have hurt his fee fees.

It is your opinion that my words in a discussion are improper … again I ask, what makes you qualified to judge that? I really don’t care, so feel free to not answer!
 
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