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Bromio

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After one month using iOS 10, I've gone back to iOS 9 just to check if I miss any of the "advantages" of iOS 10 (for iPad). So far there is only two reasons I'd like to keep iOS 10:

A) the capability of typing with two languages simultaneously (something amazing and almost required if you are using an external keyboard)

B) the old "Define" option, which allows me to read the meaning of a word with just one tap. On iOS 10 you have to tap on the definition box to open the dictionary if the word sense you are looking up does not appear in the first four lines of the dictionary entry.

On my iPad, the new Control Center is ridiculously big and Rich notifications are just a new way to show the same as before, just with new colors. Old notifications were perhaps more boring, but much simpler. The new Lock Screen is kind of useless to me.

So, what I want to say is that unlike the shift from iOS 8 to iOS 9, which was incredible, I don't see huge improvements for iPad that make the upgrading a must. I'll probably end up installing iOS 10 when the final version is out for A) and B), but not because of any of those "astonishing" traits iOS 10 is supposed to offer. Anyway, I guess iPhone devices with 3D Touch will take advantage from the new Rich notifications, but not even the SE has it!

Am I alone with this ideas?
 
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Bromio

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It's faster than 9 on the iPad. And I find the small improvements quite pleasant. Will not go back.

I've just performed a clean iOS 9 installation and it seems to me faster than iOS 10 on an iPad Air 2 (maybe you own a Pro?).

I have to say, nevertheless, that my iOS 10 installation was not clean... Perhaps that could solve some lags...
 

Bromio

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My experience with iOS 10 beta (at least on my 6s) is that it is both faster and gets slightly better battery life... I see no good reason to stay on iOS 9 in my case.

I think the new notifications are especially created keeping 3D Touch devices in mind. On an iPad, there is a lot of empty space.
 

bodonnell202

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I think the new notifications are especially created keeping 3D Touch devices in mind. On an iPad, there is a lot of empty space.
Yeah, all the new updates seem focused on iPhone and especially 3D touch devices. I haven't actually tried iOS 10 on my iPad yet. That said I don't think iOS 10 undoes any of the iPad improvements that came with iOS 9.
 

Mlrollin91

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I've just performed a clean iOS 9 installation and it seems to me faster than iOS 10 on an iPad Air 2 (maybe you own a Pro?).

I have to say, nevertheless, that my iOS 10 installation was not clean... Perhaps that could solve some lags...

My Air 2 is noticeably faster on iOS 10 over iOS 9. That was a clean install of iOS 9 vs. an OTA update of iOS 10. For that reason I went back to iOS 10. Its just feels better.
 

Bromio

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My Air 2 is noticeably faster on iOS 10 over iOS 9. That was a clean install of iOS 9 vs. an OTA update of iOS 10. For that reason I went back to iOS 10. Its just feels better.

Didn't you experience stuttering in the App Switcher or when entering the Widgets screen?
 

ramram55

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Apple is forcing me to toss my unsupported iPad 3 in the trash on iOS 10 release day :-(
Apple is known for planned obsolescence, I have 2 devices gone that way, iphone and ipad. Never will buy this company products again, this is the approach I am taking.
 

Mlrollin91

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Didn't you experience stuttering in the App Switcher or when entering the Widgets screen?
For like the first hour. Did a hard reset and its been extremely fluid since then. iOS 9 'lags' in comparison.
 

Floris

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After one month using iOS 10, I've gone back to iOS 9 just to check if I miss any of the "advantages" of iOS 10 (for iPad). So far there is only two reasons I'd like to keep iOS 10:

A) the capability of typing with two languages simultaneously (something amazing and almost required if you are using an external keyboard)

B) the old "Define" option, which allows me to read the meaning of a word with just one tap. On iOS 10 you have to tap on the definition box to open the dictionary if the word sense you are looking up does not appear in the first four lines of the dictionary entry.

On my iPad, the new Control Center is ridiculously big and Rich notifications are just a new way to show the same as before, just with new colors. Old notifications were perhaps more boring, but much simpler. The new Lock Screen is kind of useless to me.

So, what I want to say is that unlike the shift from iOS 8 to iOS 9, which was incredible, I don't see huge improvements for iPad that make the upgrading a must. I'll probably end up installing iOS 10 when the final version is out for A) and B), but not because of any of those "astonishing" traits iOS 10 is supposed to offer. Anyway, I guess iPhone devices with 3D Touch will take advantage from the new Rich notifications, but not even the SE has it!

Am I alone with this ideas?

I completely agree with you. And you've almost made a case for me to stick around on iOS 9, but .. I am public beta testing it, and it runs just fine on my devices. There's no lag increase or stuff like that. And I am hoping by using it and continuing to provide feedback that 10.1 might be a tad better. Immah stick with iOS10 for some of the benefits and the smooth experience.
 
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Mlrollin91

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OK, so you upgraded via OTA from iOS 9 to iOS 10, and then you restored to factory?

No. I was on iOS 9, updated OTA to iOS 10. Used it for about a week. Went back to iOS 9, had to do a fresh install. Immediately I noticed the speed difference, and went back to iOS 10, again via OTA.

So iOS 10 OTA was faster than iOS 9 fresh installed. The reason why I went back to iOS 9 was for Coconut battery, as that does not work in iOS 10. But the performance of iOS 10 was worth more to me than the app, so I ditched it.
 

Bromio

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No. I was on iOS 9, updated OTA to iOS 10. Used it for about a week. Went back to iOS 9, had to do a fresh install. Immediately I noticed the speed difference, and went back to iOS 10, again via OTA.

So iOS 10 OTA was faster than iOS 9 fresh installed. The reason why I went back to iOS 9 was for Coconut battery, as that does not work in iOS 10. But the performance of iOS 10 was worth more to me than the app, so I ditched it.

OK. I'll try iOS 10 when the GM is ready and I'll follow your advice.

By the way, exchanging between keyboards in iOS 9 is torturing me.
 

blasto2236

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My Air 2 is noticeably faster on iOS 10 over iOS 9. That was a clean install of iOS 9 vs. an OTA update of iOS 10. For that reason I went back to iOS 10. Its just feels better.

I find this to be the case with a lot of Apple hardware/software. For instance, macOS Sierra in a lot of ways feels like the OS my 2015 MacBook Pro was built to run. You have to figure they are primarily testing these OS' on their latest and greatest hardware, in a lot of cases before that hardware has been released to the public. On an iPhone 6s Plus and a 9.7" iPad Pro, iOS 10 definitely feels "right" compared to iOS 9.
 

Roadstar

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As Apple's not typically patching any older iOS versions once a new release is out, security-wise there's not much choice but to go to iOS 10. Unfortunately my old iPad 3 isn't getting it, so it won't be doing anything else than being a video player for the kids.
 
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