There are no USB-A ports on any of the models, thankfully. No floppy drives or FireWire ports either.
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Why are people so mad about the new iMac?
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I like the external power brick. Great idea for a desktop machine. It can stay on the floor, out of site and not taking up valuable space or contributing to the thermal load. It's also easy to replace and best of all, no risk of electrocution if you open up your iMac. I think the Mini should have had a smaller case and an external power supply.
I liked the ethernet port in the power brick too.
Sorry I left out some details. I have the monitors, mouse and keyboard that I would use.
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Guess it depends on how much you like your monitor, because that’s arguably the biggest selling point of these iMacs in my opinion.
They are ok. The plan would be to use the mini for a few years and then give it to my partner with a nice monitor.
I agree with you about the monitor.
Yes that's what I want in a sleek all in one machine. An external power brick. Come on mate.
Two things got me frustrated. Apple's obsession with thinness (the device has a big chin that would easily fit at the back of the device) and the fact that it only has 23.5". I don't really know what to do now. On one hand, I want to get my hands on one of these iMacs, on the other, I don't want to waste money since there are rumors of Apple working on a 27"+ version which would suit me better.
I admit to being angry at first. It was the ports. I was glad to see that additional peripherals are supported on the bumped up models. That’s typically the level that ends up in my offices at work.
Thanks for the honest reply. Your initial response is probably shared by many here, if they were as open as you.
What's the difference between "certain masses" and "loyal customers?" The masses are very loyal Apple customers. If it was up to the relative handful of high-end Mac users who demand that Apple make their needs the top priority, the company would remain a (relatively) small business with about 2% share of the desktop computer market and no participation in mobile devices, entertainment, etc. Most of today's first-time Mac buyers are former PC owners who are so in love with their iPhones and iPads (and the Apple ecosystem) that they replace that PC with a Mac. What do they buy? MacBook Air and 21"/24" iMacs.
Considering all the "loyal Apple customers" who proclaim here (with just about every rumor/news item they don't like) that "If Apple does this, I'm leaving," just how does one define "loyal customer?"
Just like designing a new car engine takes 2-3 years at superspeed, processor design takes time. If M1 was introduced last year, it's design would have started in 2015 or 2016. M2 is underway, but to have it designed, tested, manufactured and ready for release in 6 months is a stretch for the best of the best companies.
the ones who purchased a M1 MacBook air-pro deserved a real iMac with a M1 chip in May 2021
then should make the disposable ones with colors and limited specs iMacs available later this year.
Considering that the mini has a much larger heat sink than this iMac, at best it will perform same as the mini.
Speaking only for myself: I’m not mad at Apple, the smaller iMac was usually specced similarly to the less expensive MBP. I really like the look and some of the colors. I want a cheerful machine. More importantly, this has a better screen, cooling system, speakers and microphones than my 2013 27” iMac.
I’m annoyed because I borked my 27” 2013 iMac in December and needed another computer for work stat, and now have a perfectly fine M1 MBP that is not enough for me as far as screen size (I do not want to buy a second screen). Also, my iPads need replacing so I may buy an iPad Pro next week (Not a $$$ configuration).
So I am not sure if I should sell the MBP and buy the 24” iMac, or wait for the larger iMac (which will probably be overkill for my current needs.) Hope the larger iMac offers some of these colors too, if not I suppose I will eventually buy a 24” iMac.
I knew this iMac would have the M1 chip w/the 16gb Ram limitation, so that doesn’t bother me. Apple targeted this model for consumers.
BTW, despite my grumbling, I am a loyal Apple customer and I completely get Apple’s mindset here. Not insulted by the iMac design or colors, I like them. I like that they are different from the earlier M1 models. Why not?
I’m annoyed because I borked my 27” 2013 iMac in December and needed another computer for work stat, and now have a perfectly fine M1 MBP that is not enough for me as far as screen size (I do not want to buy a second screen). Also, my iPads need replacing so I may buy an iPad Pro next week (Not a $$$ configuration).
So I am not sure if I should sell the MBP and buy the 24” iMac, or wait for the larger iMac (which will probably be overkill for my current needs.) Hope the larger iMac offers some of these colors too, if not I suppose I will eventually buy a 24” iMac.
I knew this iMac would have the M1 chip w/the 16gb Ram limitation, so that doesn’t bother me. Apple targeted this model for consumers.
BTW, despite my grumbling, I am a loyal Apple customer and I completely get Apple’s mindset here. Not insulted by the iMac design or colors, I like them. I like that they are different from the earlier M1 models. Why not?
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Well last year we got a very very high end option...a maxed out 2020 iMac. And my "obsolete drain" is going to be at least 7 years long!!
People can never be pleased. Most people love the new iMac. It's not the perfect machine for everyone but for a vast majority it is.
Apple made no announcements about the pro machines yet, and instead of people being patient and realizing this, they're super angry because no announcement was made. Mac releases are often staggered among the lines and with chip shortages the way they are right now, it makes sense to focus on the machine with broader appeal.
I wanted an iMac... so badly! It’s not a bad design, but for the last 9 months I thought the new iMac would literally be a 24” iPad Pro. No chin, small black bezels.
We got the exact opposite of that. Again, it’s for a certain market and maybe that design will come soon, but it was still disappointing after having so much anticipation. I blame all of the leakers 😉
I will wait for a design that appeals to me.... hopefully!
We got the exact opposite of that. Again, it’s for a certain market and maybe that design will come soon, but it was still disappointing after having so much anticipation. I blame all of the leakers 😉
I will wait for a design that appeals to me.... hopefully!
This is honestly one of the biggest standpoints coming from Apple that we have found for the past years. We know Apple listens to every detail that they bring to consumers. It's been a while since we seen this display of colors, materials, and design coming from Apple. Let alone bringing enhancements with processor speeds performance beforehand. I love the new iMacs I think it's a great time for Apple to give consumers what we've been missing out on these past years.
I feel this needs to be stated loudly:
If you were not in the market for an entry level 21" iMac before today, you are not in the market for the entry level 24" iMac that replaces it today.
I think you are EXACTLY correct. I have read so many comments just trashing the new iMac and it was SO obvious to me that this end of the iMac was for the "typical" users. Frankly, it all smacked of "influencers" just needing a reason to whine and say OMG dozens of times.
Of course the BIG winner was the word "CHIN" as all these knuckle-heads ranted on and on - OMG, OMG, OMG why the Chin, the chin, the chin. Yesterday was exhausting.
Clearly, they will release a more "pro" level iMac with more horsepower. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to KNOW that there is NO way a 24" 4.5K screen will be all that they release.
Thank you for the dose of reality.
I think it makes for an interesting discussion about shopping habits of tech , before the M1 we had a **** CPU in the MBA and a **** CPU in the small iMac , ppl could upgrade those **** CPU`s , they felt they had "better then others" as they payed more , the pro crowd right now is in a bad place as ppl are buying the MBA and its kicking the MBP16 ass in some applications while being fanless , I guess ppl want the tiers to be back again.
The fact that the minimum bar has being raised from a performance POV should be celebrated , but ppl like their pyramids , as we were programmed to do since we entered the commercial world.
Not really the case here , but in theory , if there was 1 CPU that was better then every other CPU in the consumer market , and i put it in all the Apple machines and update it yearly to be the best CPU in the world , would you be happy ? I would say NO , ppl want to have better stuff then others then the beginning of time and from reactions in this and other threads they still want their pyramid system.
What you should be asking is :
Did the iPad Pro got a much better CPU -> Yes.
Did the MBA got a much better CPU- > Yes
Did the iMac (small version) got a much better CPU ->Yes
The fact they are all the same M1 should not be clouding your judgment , but alas it does.
Intel had SO many skews as they knew better then everyone the mindset of gamers and nerds and their will to pay hundreds of dollars more for 10% IPC gain , for 2 more cores , for a little bit more top boost speed , that was the REAL gauging.
But hey , its probably just me .... as i see the sentiment is not widely shared around here.
Not sure why anyone expected anything else. It is quite clear Apple are first rolling out their iPad chips, which is the A14X or M1 (really, it is an iPad chip if you look at the design of the M1).
Apple their high-performance chip is not ready yet, which will be in Q3 2021. Luckly, their new iPhone will also be released meaning that we could see an M2X (based on the A15).
However, if Ive was still around, I think he would have probably made the iMac a bit thicker and housed the M1-chip behind the display so that the chin could be removed. This is a fair point regarding why some people are disappointed.
But considering that the average consumer only uses Office, Facebook, Youtube, emails, ..... the machine is fine basically.