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To me desktops are supposed to represent better performance/value than laptops. They are certainly supposed to be a higher performance tier than a 13" ultralight. Otherwise what's the point? Get the laptop and maybe an external display. Sure the iMac has a better display and speakers than the 13" laptops, but I still can't get past the fact that the M1 iMac is 'only' a Macbook Air with a bigger display.

There is no performance advantage over an M1 laptop. (Unless it is secretly overclocked?)
There is no upgradability advantage over an M1 laptop.
There is no price advantage over an M1 laptop.
There is no (or minimal with up-charge) port/connectivity advantage over an M1 laptop.
I don't like it.
Apple really killed itself by not releasing this at the same time as the Macbook Airs. Because then it would have been an easy sell - We have this M1 chip and it gets this exact amount of power/performance - Now just choose what case you want it in: a laptop, desktop where you bring everything yourself (mac mini), or an all in one (iMac).

To me, that's an easy way to market everything they just did with this M1 chip.
 
A lot of people here are highly disappointed or angry because they created a false expectation in their mind of what was going to happen. When that false expectation failed, they blamed Apple instead of taking blame for their own creation. It happens with every release.
It’s nuts that a desktop starts at that RAM and storage in 2021. It’s nuts that you have to pay $200 to get USB3 ports on a desktop. It’s nuts that a desktop shares a CPU/GPU with a tablet and ultralight laptops. They’ve basically stripped out all the advantages of buying a desktop in the first place. I really struggle to see how this imac is a meaningful improvement over a MacBook Air or pro hooked up to a monitor (and don’t you dare talk to me about a microphone array or whatever).

And yes this is personal preference but my god is it ugly. Like maybe the ugliest mac they’ve ever made. The colors... the chin... no logo... the white bezels... just eye-poppingly, slap-you-in-the-face ugly. Like a Fisher Price kid’s-first-computer that costs $35.
 
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Oh come on. It’s a desktop. It doesn’t need to be that thin. There’s no reason to strip out the ports they removed, and it still starts at 8 GB RAM and 256 GB SSD for $1300.

The fact that it looks like a toy is just the final insult.

They needed to make something that looked as childish and unprofessional as Big Sur, so that the aesthetic matched?!
 
It’s nuts that a desktop starts at that RAM and storage in 2021. It’s nuts that you have to pay $200 to get USB3 ports on a desktop. It’s nuts that a desktop shares a CPU/GPU with a tablet and ultralight laptops. They’ve basically stripped out all the advantages of buying a desktop in the first place. I really struggle to see how this imac is a meaningful improvement over a MacBook Air or pro hooked up to a monitor (and don’t you dare talk to me about a microphone array or whatever).

And yes this is personal preference but my god is it ugly. Like maybe the ugliest mac they’ve ever made. The colors... the chin... no logo... the white bezels... just eye-poppingly, slap-you-in-the-face ugly. Like a Fisher Price kid’s-first-computer that costs $35.
As to pricing, it is consistent with Apple's overall history. You are a veteran Apple user so, I really don't get the complaining.

As to color and design, it is flashy and to me, that really isn't a bad thing, even if I won't be getting one right now. If I was in the market, I would have no problem buying one.

Good on Apple for stepping outside the box for a change and shaking things up. I think many here need to realize that Apple will probably still make Macs with the classic color and design but, sometimes Apple doesn't release items that agree with the MR contingency and there is nothing wrong with that.
 
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The reason I'm mad is that I don't want to spend a fortune and get a humongous iMac just to get black bezels. It pains me because the 24-inch size is perfect for me.
 
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1. Price
It's weird to see that the iMac, with the same internals, is $300 more than the MacBook Air. Sure, there's a fan and a bigger brighter screen, but since when has an equivalently specced laptop been cheaper than the desktop version? Twenty odd years ago, the iMac was $1,299, and the comparable PowerBook G3 Mainstreet was $1,999. Now, I don't expect that gap to exist today, but I'm definitely surprised they went with the custom screen and higher price, when an EDU/Institution focused model could easily have shipped with a decent, non-Retina 1080p IPS display for $999... or even $899.

2. Specs
These are, like the 21.5" iMacs that they're replacing, non-upgradeable. In fact, they're even less upgradeable, as the 21.5" models still had the option to upgrade the hard drive, if one were so inclined. A desktop, starting at $1,299, in 2021, equipped with 8GB of RAM, looks under specced at the least, and worst case scenario will underperform badly in a year or two with new OS and software. I understand for an entry level institution focused model, but the midrange, at $1,499, is shameful.

The inclusion of two TB3 and two USB-C ports on the midrange also makes one thing very clear - the M1 likely doesn't have the IO to support four TB3 ports. On the Mac Mini, this was masked as there are only two TB3 ports, with the remainder being USB-A style ports. If Apple couldn't put more TB3 ports in for technical reasons (or reserving that for an M1x), I think Apple ought to have maintained that USB-C/USB-A split on the iMac, as well. A UHS-II SD card slot wouldn't hurt either, especially as the internal drive isn't replaceable.

3. Design
I honestly don't care about the colors, or the bezel, or the chin. No, what I'm disappointed in is the fact that they decided to go in the direction of thinness-above-all. A slightly thicker iMac could have had quite a few possibilities - the one that's top of mind, for me, would be a fan-free model. A thicker heatsink, with 'ventilation shafts' coming out near the top, could allow convection cooling, not unlike the iMac G3s of old. A completely silent iMac would be fantastic for libraries, recording studios, and other instances where even a little bit of fan noise could be distracting or unwelcome. If the M1 can be fan-free in an MBA, it can be fan free in an iMac. A thicker casing would also have allowed for USB-A, as well as a headphone jack that's not on the side - which might be fine for headphones, but a little unsightly if one were to plug in external speakers.

4. Keyboard (personal pet peeve)
This, admittedly, is very much my thing. I don't like the rounded corner keys, and I really, really don't like that the arrows aren't in an inverted-T layout on the non-extended board. The left and right arrows don't even half to be half height - make them 3/4 height. Or put little nubbins on them like the F and J keys. Something that I can use to position my fingers without having to glance down.

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Those are my major reasons for not liking the iMac. I'll have a need for a mostly sedentary machine in the next few months, but if I can't upgrade a desktop, nor save much money on one, why wouldn't I just grab a laptop and have the portability if needed? The iMac appears to have almost all of the drawbacks of the 13" MBP (too few ports, too little RAM for the price), with few of the benefits of a desktop (higher performance, upgradeable RAM/HDD, lower price).
I agree with you. Totally. There should be trade-offs between desktops and laptops. The laptop offers portability. The desktop offers power for a lower price. If you cannot have any, what is the point of a desktop?

The iMac (and all-in-ones in general) has been a poor choice in the power/price combo. But this new 24-inch version makes it even more evident. In January 2019, I bought a custom-made Core i7-9700K equipped with a GeForce RTX 2070, 32 GB RAM, a 512 GB SSD, a 4 TB HDD, a 32-inch 4K monitor, and a mechanical keyboard. For the whole package, I paid roughly half the price of a 27-inch base iMac (I live in Brazil, so prices may differ). The iMac was not worth it then unless I wanted a slim package instead of power.

The 24-inch iMac is worth even less. Unless you fall in love with the form factor or the colors, you would be better off either buying a MacBook (Air/Pro) or a custom-made desktop.
 
I only wish they would have announced a replacement for the 27" iMac with 5k retina screen. Going down to 24" might be tolerable but oddly I don't want to go from a 5k screen to a 4.5k screen.

Other than that, its about what I expected. An iMac for home users.
 
I will not speak for others but for me the concern is the design being so obsessed with thin and fashion and all the sacrifices that entails.

I am not going to buy this iMac, but I really hope this doesn’t provide a really accurate preview of what the larger more pro focused ones will be also.

On a desktop computer I don’t want to be using dongles or be port constrained or any of that sort of stuff.

This iMac 24 has less ports than the Mac Mini!

For curiosity's sake, how many devices are you plugging into your computer these days?
 
As to pricing, it is consistent with Apple's overall history. You are a veteran Apple user so, I really don't get the complaining.

As to color and design, it is flashy and to me, that really isn't a bad thing, even if I won't be getting one right now. If I was in the market, I would have no problem buying one.

Good on Apple for stepping outside the box for a change and shaking things up. I think many here need to realize that Apple will probably still make Macs with the classic color and design but, sometimes Apple doesn't release items that agree with the MR contingency and there is nothing wrong with that.
On pricing, it starts at $200 more than the old base imac. The gimped M1 imac with 2 ports should be hitting that price point ($1100), but instead they kept the low end intel around for that.

also, we need to move past 8 GB/256 GB. I understand that it’s Apple, but that has been the base configuration for a LONG time now. It’s not acceptable on a $1500 desktop in 2021.
 
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On pricing, it starts at $200 more than the old base imac. The gimped M1 imac with 2 ports should be hitting that price point ($1100), but instead they kept the low end intel around for that.

also, we need to move past 8 GB/256 GB. I understand that it’s Apple, but that has been the base configuration for a LONG time now. It’s not acceptable on a $1500 desktop in 2021.
You and I both know Apple is going to keep their margins as fat as they can. As for the base configuration, I think a lot of people are able to live comfortably in that smaller wedge. For the end user, it would be nice to see 512GB base but, I resigned long ago that that wasn't happening.
 
Honestly I'm worried that since the 27" iMac has always looked just like the 21.5" iMac, just bigger, that the bigger version of this will be identical as well and not offer a dark bezel and more professional color options.

I'd also like to have I/O as good as my current 27" iMac and not have to buy a Thunderbolt dock just to get USB-A ports, SD reader, TOSlink out, and so on.

So.. I don't HATE the new iMac, it's not for me anyway as I like the larger screen models. I just *worry* that the consumery-ness of the new iMac will bleed into the larger more pro model later this year. I hope these worries are unfounded.

EDIT: I'm also annoyed that they decided to put TouchID into the keyboard, rather than integrate FaceID into the iMac itself. I've NEVER used Apple's keyboards; I prefer to plug my old buckling-spring IBM behemoth in and type on that. So I'm basically going to have to go without biometric authentication unless I want to use Apple's ****** keyboard. No thanks.
 
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To me desktops are supposed to represent better performance/value than laptops. They are certainly supposed to be a higher performance tier than a 13" ultralight. Otherwise what's the point? Get the laptop and maybe an external display. Sure the iMac has a better display and speakers than the 13" laptops, but I still can't get past the fact that the M1 iMac is 'only' a Macbook Air with a bigger display.

There is no performance advantage over an M1 laptop. (Unless it is secretly overclocked?)
There is no upgradability advantage over an M1 laptop.
There is no price advantage over an M1 laptop.
There is no (or minimal with up-charge) port/connectivity advantage over an M1 laptop.
I don't like it.

Fully agree

It’s literally the M1 MacBook bolted onto a screen.

I’m hoping for a lot better out of the larger ones
 
I think my biggest grip is my gripe with most recent Macs and that's a 256GB SSD, but with everything in Dropbox, iCloud, or OneDrive maybe that's not a huge deal. 8GB RAM also feels low now that it's unified between CPU and GPU. But Apple has always been stingy on RAM and storage space since the Macintosh 128K.
 
I think my biggest grip is my gripe with most recent Macs and that's a 256GB SSD, but with everything in Dropbox, iCloud, or OneDrive maybe that's not a huge deal. 8GB RAM also feels low now that it's unified between CPU and GPU. But Apple has always been stingy on RAM and storage space since the Macintosh 128K.
The nice thing about iMacs is that they stay in one place, so you can just leave a bigass SSD plugged into the back and store your bulk data there. It's less annoying than with laptops.
 
The nice thing about iMacs is that they stay in one place, so you can just leave a bigass SSD plugged into the back and store your bulk data there. It's less annoying than with laptops.
Ever better is to invest in a decent NAS. Keep all your data in one spot accessible from all your devices.
 
Ever better is to invest in a decent NAS. Keep all your data in one spot accessible from all your devices.

I personally have a huge FreeNAS in addition to good storage on local devices.

NAS isn't a solution for all problems.
Lots of use cases are much better (if not require) local fast access for large amounts.
 
You and I both know Apple is going to keep their margins as fat as they can. As for the base configuration, I think a lot of people are able to live comfortably in that smaller wedge. For the end user, it would be nice to see 512GB base but, I resigned long ago that that wasn't happening.
RAM and storage need to go up over time. The iPhone was 16 GB for what seemed like forever, and people excused it every year by saying you could pay more for more storage if that’s what you needed, but it still sucked and it was cheap as hell, and 8/256 on a desktop in 2021 is the same thing.
 
One way of looking at the iMac is that it’s a great screen with a (free) computer inside. The people saying that I could just buy an external monitor to go with the Mac mini or MBA don’t seem to realise that even good 4K displays themselves aren’t cheap, 5k displays seem practically non-existent, or that the iMac is still cheaper than putting everything together.

Rather than say the iMac offers poor specs for the price, I see it as Apple choosing to focus on features that may be hard to reflect objectively on a spec sheet (how important is speaker quality even), but matter to the end user nonetheless.

The iMac does have a market. It’s just none of them frequent Macrumours.
 
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I'm not mad about the new iMac, just disappointed. Apple seems to be making no effort to continue on with their innovative, game changing approaches when it comes to their line of computers. I'm currently running from a 27" Late 2012 iMac and see no need to make an upgrade until we have the following provided in a new iMac:
Again, you are running a 27" iMac - unless you were running an entry level 21" iMac before this is not an upgrade for you.
 
I am frustrated by the new iMac. Not that it is a bad product, but Apple should have delivered more. And this is because:
  1. Apple only released a replacement for the 21.5-inch version. The 24-inch iMac seems like a downgrade, at least in size, compared to the 27-inch model.
It is a downgrade because it IS a downgrade. You could have just stopped here.

Seriously baffled at people not getting what this iMac is.
 
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