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ozreth

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I purchase these things to use them and don't have resale value in mind. I will use it until it doesn't work for me anymore (5-10 years) and likely will have the battery replaced once in between.
 
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SamRyouji

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To each their own. I never think any gadgets that I've bought as investments, therefore I do not care about the resale value. Gadget resale value always drop, unless you buy the first gen of any devices and never unbox it, only to auction it decades later.
I bought my MacBook Air for high portability and amazing battery life as I often work outside without access to power.
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TL;DR: If you value your high resale value, I understand your purpose fully. But for me, personally I buy my gadget to properly use it & push it as it's intended to, and daily until it wear down - resale value be damned.
 

cocoua

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Apple charges 129usd for battery replacement, why are you paying 129 (anker external) in order to make your slim laptop a complex portable solution?

Just wait until you need to replace it and spent the money when it is necesary, in the mainwhile, hace all the fun with the product as it was designed for!!

This is the biggest no sense ever.
 

splitpea

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Now this is inspiring some ideas. Why not make a laptop whose internal battery is good for maybe 5-10 min — just long enough to prevent shutdown while you locate and run an extension cord and power cord if you need them? And then the user can choose to carry a power bank as large or small as they actually need (or none if they’re just taking the laptop from one place with a cord to another). And the laptop itself would be incredibly light!
 

DeepSix

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I carried my Air with me on Saturday and on Monday, and all I had with me was the Air itself and (on Saturday) a card reader. As long as the battery lasts, I knew I wouldn't even need the power brick. And I sure didn't need all the other things you refer to (Lights? Mousepad and mouse?) so I don't know where you get that "most people" carry all that stuff with them.

Okay I would say carrying an external hard drive is a must just to minimize the writes on the internal drive since it's not replaceable. The same goes for USB hubs as 2 ports isn't going to cut it for on the go. I have a friend who carries a mouse pad and mini lights with a stand in her laptop bag so it's not that uncommon.
 

seanmcbay

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Each time you put a cycle count on it, it lowers the resale value of your Air. It also shortens the lifespan of both the internal battery and the laptop. Simple way to prevent it, is by buying and using a battery pack on it when needed. I did this, got an Anker prime 27650mah portable battery bank and for any times that I need to use the Air on battery, I run it off here instead so that I don't put any wear on the internal battery. Much cheaper to buy a new battery bank than a new Air.

Just curious why more don't do this?
Why use the anything at all, you’re just putting more wear on it.
 
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DeepSix

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So you’re buying a $180 battery pack and lugging it all over, kind of defeating the purpose of having an ultra-light laptop, so that the resale value of the laptop will be $120 higher in four years?

Or are you buying a $180 battery pack and lugging it around so that you won’t need to pay Apple $150 to replace the Air’s battery some day?

Neither option makes sense to me. Just use the laptop. Don’t worry about how much it will be worth in four years.

I bought the Anker Prime power bank to put the wear and tear on when out of the house. I bought it solely to use with the MacBook. Not using it to charge anything else to keep the cycle count down on the Anker battery (I have other power banks for the other devices). So often will carry multiple powerbanks in the bag.
 

Nekomichi

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Sep 20, 2016
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Why are people driving their cars on the road?

Each time you put a mile on it, it lowers the resale value of your car. It also shortens the lifespan of the engine, transmission and every other part of the car. Simple way to prevent it, is by buying and using a tow truck on it when needed. I did this, got a Ford F-350 tow truck and for any times that I need to use the car, I tow it to where I need it so that I don't put any wear on the engine.

Just curious why more don't do this?
I know the OP is satire, but this has copypasta potential. 🤔
 

ignatius345

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I know the OP is satire, but this has copypasta potential. 🤔
Not sure what that term means, but all I did was replace "MacBook" references with "car" references. Not genius work, I'll admit, but about the appropriate level of effort for the quality of the original post.
 

Nekomichi

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Not sure what that term means, but all I did was replace "MacBook" references with "car" references. Not genius work, I'll admit, but about the appropriate level of effort for the quality of the original post.
A copypasta is a meme format where you take an existing paragraph and switch out the references to something else while retaining the original meaning or message.
 

Tyler O'Bannon

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Nov 23, 2019
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You’re better off using the internal battery, setting the 80% charging limit, and using it plugged in when you are at a desk but using the internal when you are on the go, and get a battery replacement after 3 years or so
 

Rnd-chars

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Apr 4, 2023
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Just curious why more don't do this?

I think you’re overlooking something — that internal laptop battery will still eventually fail even if never used.

That’s why I don’t use laptops at all.

In fact, I have my Mac Pro on wheels connected to an XDR display powered through a gas-fueled generator. This way I have maximum performance wherever I (and my 200kg rig) go and I *never* have to worry about those pesky batteries ever again.

Stop relying on obsolete technology that only depreciates infinitesimally with use, people. The GasBook Pro Revolution is nigh!
 
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Ethosik

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Not gonna lie, I’m amazed too about your 100% health.

But take into account that batteries are sent with higher than 100% health initially, (production byproduct)

This is why whenever you read people saying how it stays in 100% for so long and once it goes below it degrades at a faster rate and they are baffled? This is the reason, because the OS will never show above 100% health and the degradation will appear faster once it’s below…
I’m still at 100% too with my M1 MacBook Pro and it’s plugged in 99% of the time.
 
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TechnoMonk

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Okay I would say carrying an external hard drive is a must just to minimize the writes on the internal drive since it's not replaceable. The same goes for USB hubs as 2 ports isn't going to cut it for on the go. I have a friend who carries a mouse pad and mini lights with a stand in her laptop bag so it's not that uncommon.
This is ridiculous, I have mBA 2011 and MbP 2014 which still have 15 years of life left. I am a heavy user, unless your SSD isn’t reliable they should outlast life of a Mac by a decade. If you aren’t lucky, the drive is gonna fail what ever you do or don’t. I have external drive because it’s cheaper to expand the capacity than buying a laptop with higher SSD cap.
 

TechnoMonk

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I think you’re overlooking something — that internal laptop battery will still eventually fail even if never used.

That’s why I don’t use laptops at all.

In fact, I have my Mac Pro on wheels connected to an XDR display powered through a gas-fueled generator. This way I have maximum performance wherever I (and my 200kg rig) go and I *never* have to worry about those pesky batteries ever again.

Stop relying on obsolete technology that only depreciates infinitesimally with use, people. The GasBook Pro Revolution is nigh!
Full of gas. What’s not to love.
 

DeepSix

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This is ridiculous, I have mBA 2011 and MbP 2014 which still have 15 years of life left. I am a heavy user, unless your SSD isn’t reliable they should outlast life of a Mac by a decade. If you aren’t lucky, the drive is gonna fail what ever you do or don’t. I have external drive because it’s cheaper to expand the capacity than buying a laptop with higher SSD cap.

Fair enough but why not cut back on the wear and tear on the internal drive since we can by using an external one? I'd rather keep the writes on the internal drive to a bare minimum. Each time you write to it, you shorten its lifespan. I'd hate to have to buy a new MacBook just because the internal drive reached its lifespan and conked out. That's a very expensive lesson.

I don't even store anything on my desktop or in the folders because of this. If we were able to use an external drive as the swap drive I would do this too.
 
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TechnoMonk

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Fair enough but why not cut back on the wear and tear on the internal drive since we can buy using an external one? I'd rather keep the writies on the internal drive to a minimum. I don't even store anything on my desktop or in the folders because of this. If we were able to use an external drive as the swap drive I would do this too.
Why? I don’t work for the laptop, it works for me. I have backups anyways, and my thunderbolt drives if I need more space.
 
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h.gilbert

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Nov 17, 2022
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Each time you put a cycle count on it, it lowers the resale value of your Air. It also shortens the lifespan of both the internal battery and the laptop. Simple way to prevent it, is by buying and using a battery pack on it when needed. I did this, got an Anker prime 27650mah portable battery bank and for any times that I need to use the Air on battery, I run it off here instead so that I don't put any wear on the internal battery. Much cheaper to buy a new battery bank than a new Air.

Just curious why more don't do this?

Why don't people put their macs in hard cases to keep it damage free to preserve resale value?

Why don't people buy an external keyboard so they don't make the macs keyboard shiny, again to preserve resale value?

etc. etc.

That Anker prime 27650 battery is like $180, no? The difference between a used Air with few cycles and lots of cycles is probably lower than that. So you spend money on a battery pack, inconvenience yourself by having to lug it around and then in the end it probably won't even make sense financially. Used M1 Airs are what, like $400-500, you're not gonna get that $180 back.

This has to be a troll post.
 
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tornadowrangler

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Sep 5, 2020
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I've had a M1 Macbook Air I've had since 2021, been using daily from the battery and health is at 84%. Definitely noticeable but it still makes it through the day.
 

tornadowrangler

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Sep 5, 2020
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MacBook batteries are rated to have 80% battery capacity after 1,000 full charge cycles. One year has typically 365 days, which is only a third of the way to that rated lifetime if you fully drained the battery every day. It would take roughly three years to reach 80% battery health—which Apple fudges a little with the design vs real capacity—but this statement is laughably false.
I've had my M1 Macbook for 3 years, used it daily mostly not on the battery, and my cycle count is only 470. Unless you're doing intense work it's hard to drain the battery every day.
 
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