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highmayhem

macrumors newbie
Feb 8, 2006
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Old stuff. I have a 1996 Toyota T100 and a 2001 Honda CRV to accompany my 2014 Prius. I'm still using a 2010 Macbook Pro as an audio tool running Linux. That's a companion to my 2021 Macbook Pro M1Pro, which I expect to use for many more years.
 

Shirasaki

macrumors P6
May 16, 2015
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Ran into another friend who said they have abandoned Apple Macs because of the 'throw away' architecture Apple has adopted.

I may join them soon. Not sure yet.
Very accurate assessment imo. Compounded by soldering all the components, making repairing extremely difficult if not outright impossible to do.
 

Shirasaki

macrumors P6
May 16, 2015
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The "security dangers" for an average user even with an older non updated OS are vastly overstated.
It's laughable that some users here deem a piece hardware "obsolete" because it doesn't run the latest and greatest version of macOS.
Fear-mongering of course. The more afraid general public is, the higher chance uninitiated will eager to upgrade without second thought. Let’s also conveniently ignore the weakest link of any online security defence: the user themselves.
 

EdwardC

macrumors 6502a
Jun 3, 2012
544
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Georgia
Ran into another friend who said they have abandoned Apple Macs because of the 'throw away' architecture Apple has adopted.

I may join them soon. Not sure yet.
Agreed, the only real way to by a new M series Mac is to keep Apple Care on it, My M2 Pro Mini is $37.00 a year, I let my M1 Mini coverage expire. If anythig happens it's Apples problem.
 

kschendel

macrumors 65816
Dec 9, 2014
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I walk the streets and see them in cafe's and the parks. I see so many people with MacBooks from 2012 that have the light in the back with a out of day OS yet they are using an iPhone 14 or newer. I just don't understand why they don't at least upgrade to a M1 MacBook Air for $800. If they can afford a new iPhone they can afford to update there out of date, insecure laptop.

I just replaced (had to replace, for reasons other than "it stopped working") a late 2013 rMBP with a 15" M2 Macbook Air. The Air is definitely a nice machine, but I honestly don't see that it's any faster for the office-y tasks I need it for. And the old machine was just as secure as this one is.

That's why. The old machine is doing the job just fine, no need to replace it.
 

Shirasaki

macrumors P6
May 16, 2015
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I just replaced (had to replace, for reasons other than "it stopped working") a late 2013 rMBP with a 15" M2 Macbook Air. The Air is definitely a nice machine, but I honestly don't see that it's any faster for the office-y tasks I need it for. And the old machine was just as secure as this one is.

That's why. The old machine is doing the job just fine, no need to replace it.
Yeah, I replaced my old 2014 macbook air 11” despite I loved it so much during my uni days. Why? too slow.
Now, with M1 MacBook Pro 13“ 2020, is it fast? Yeah if we talk about Benchmarks. no if we talk about feelings. In fact, the M1 has already shown the sign of struggling to cope with my daily use, such as more frequent beach balls, more stutter, more often application crashes and so on.

While personal experience cannot be used to dictate other people‘s experience, I staunchly against the definition of 8GB base model M1 MacBook Air works for vast majority Of folks. 8GB base model is all Apple’s making, not by customer demand. Those Apple defenders conveniently ignore the fact that base model goes onto sales far more often than any other BTO models, meaning they are not selling as well as slightly better ones (Such as more RAM).

But no. People love base model machines. People want newest and greatest Asap.
 
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MacCraig Pro

macrumors regular
Jan 1, 2012
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Manchester, UK
Computers have plateaued a long time ago. If you don't do heavy tasks, with enough RAM and an SSD, even a 10-year's old machine is just fine today.
I completely agree with this. I replaced a 2011 MBP with my current M1 MBA. I previously used the MBP only occasionally and for web browsing and word it was totally fine. It booted up quite quickly on High Sierra as I specced with an SSD from new. I only replaced it when I inadvertently broke it re-doing the thermal paste.

I'll be keeping this M1 MBA for at least the same length of time without replacing it.
 

MBAir2010

macrumors 604
May 30, 2018
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kiddk1

macrumors 6502
Aug 16, 2009
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because some of us cant afford a 3-4k laptop, I am currently using a 2015 MB Pro retina but will be upgrading to a 2019 due to cost
 
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redheeler

macrumors G3
Oct 17, 2014
8,625
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Colorado, USA
Because they work. 2012 is fine for:

- writing papers
- checking email
- streaming music
- web browsing
- video conferencing

That’s all that half of the people in the coffee shop are doing anyway.

Of course it also depends what people can / are willing to spend on a laptop in that particular area. You won’t see as many outdated machines where there is more disposable income. I’d even say the average financial situation of students at a college can be inferred by observing the type and age of laptops used on campus.
 
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3SQ Machine

macrumors 6502
Dec 8, 2019
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My 2017 Air has the backlit Apple logo and is still a great little laptop for e-mails and web browsing. I still use it almost daily but must admit it was replaced with a Think Pad (less $ / More RAM and can run programs needed).
Thought the backlit logo stopped after 2015 for MBA? What's the model #?
 

rehkram

macrumors 6502a
May 7, 2018
853
1,191
upstate NY
I walk the streets and see them in cafe's and the parks. I see so many people with MacBooks from 2012 that have the light in the back with a out of day OS yet they are using an iPhone 14 or newer. I just don't understand why they don't at least upgrade to a M1 MacBook Air for $800. If they can afford a new iPhone they can afford to update there out of date, insecure laptop.
I have a better question. Why are so many people bothering to reply to such a juvenile question?:)
 
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