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JustAnExpat

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Why are forum posts like this promoted to the front page ? I'm not looking to be mean towards the OP but I would've thought that the answer to this could have been found with about 20 seconds of reflection in the head of the OP instead of the need to pose an entirely rhetorical, unanswerable question here. Oh, and J3sus, its at 14 pages already...

The title for this post could have as easily been: "Why do people do things ?"
I think the post is promoted to the front page because it's the newest post.
 
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johnmacward

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I think the post is promoted to the front page because it's the newest post.
It was created last Wednesday, so its not the newest post. I imagine being at 14 pages its popularity pushes it up. Although I admit I have absolutely no idea.
 
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Queen6

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Why are forum posts like this promoted to the front page ? I'm not looking to be mean towards the OP but I would've thought that the answer to this could have been found with about 20 seconds of reflection in the head of the OP instead of the need to pose an entirely rhetorical, unanswerable question here. Oh, and J3sus, its at 14 pages already...

The title for this post could have as easily been: "Why do people do things ?"
Simple it's topical and trending, so very likely the sites algorithm pushes it to the front page...

Q-6
 
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JamesMay82

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Desktops and Laptops are not users primary device these days. So for most users they take a backseat to their iPhone which they have and use probably 80% of the time. If you just use it to check mail in gmail on a supported browser and type the occasional document in Word 2011, it meets their needs. Most people don’t curate playlists and organize photos anymore. If they want share a photo, the share it on Facebook or Instagram.

The group you see in the Macrumors forums going crazy over M3 Max are a small
minority. Also, Apple made some solid computers. The fact that my vintage collectors PowerBook G4’s running Mac OS X Puma and Jaguar still work is amazing. A 10 year old retina MacBook Pro from 2013 should not be surprised. In fact, I think Apple could still maybe supporting them with fundamental security updates. It would be a win-win too, larger user base and less ewaste.

I hate to agree but I too do most of my personal computing on my iPhone these days. which is mail, web browsing and watching you tube and my own photo collection.
 

AlixSPQR

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I'm a moderate environmentalist and I'll like to use a computer as long as it is capable of everyday tasks. In my case those are minute, mostly web browsing, messaging, and social media communication. I have had a Mac mini Late 2012 for more than ten years now, but unfortunately it broke off a piece of its logic board a couple of weeks ago, when I serviced it (reapplied thermal paste and cleaned it from dust). I can't trust it, it now displays some odd behaviour.
So, now I'm using a MacBook Pro Late 2011 in clamshell mode on my desktop, instead. I can browse like it's 2023 with the help of Chromium-legacy. iCloud still syncs everything fine, except Reminders (but I have it on my iPhone).
Besides being environmentally friendly, this is also dirt cheap. I got my MBP for free from a forum friend, and my daughter's boyfriend at the time bought the SSD as a quid pro quo for borrowing another MBP that I have (it now has Ubuntu and resides at my girlfriend's place).
I did buy 16 GB RAM, though, for 30$. I need that now, using the MBP as a desktop.
I'm hoping to continue with this setup for years to come. Others may buy the latest.
 
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Donoban

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Why are forum posts like this promoted to the front page ? I'm not looking to be mean towards the OP but I would've thought that the answer to this could have been found with about 20 seconds of reflection in the head of the OP instead of the need to pose an entirely rhetorical, unanswerable question here. Oh, and J3sus, its at 14 pages already...

The title for this post could have as easily been: "Why do people do things ?"
LOLZ - I think just thinking the same after scrolling through 14 pages.
 
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17fox

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Enjoyed skimming through all 14 pages of the discussion.

Everyone's reasons for changing or not changing their devices are different. But I think the most important two reasons are budget and lack of necessity

I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet, but there are some people who haven't even updated their system in years. It's really common now to see people who use for example OS X Mojave or Catalina, or older, even though their devices are capable of being updated to newer version.

Coming back closer to the topic - I believe we now live in those times, when technology development has dramatically slowed down and that is why many people can't even feel necessity of an upgrade.

My example. I still use two Macs: iMac 2017 running Ventura 13.6.1. I use it primarily for really heavy tasks - a lot of open pages in Safari and Chrome, tens of photos in Photoshop and a project in Figma. It still works just fine and I can't feel that I need to upgrade
MacBook Pro 13 2015 with macOS Mojave. I use it mainly for light tasks like working with documents, MS Teams, Zoom etc., but it's still capable of doing some work in Photoshop without any big problems. I also use it when I travel somewhere and need a portable computer. Do I really need to get a replacement? Definitely not;)
 

deebinem

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Oh no! I've just realised! I have last years washing machine! What will the neighbours think?
I would think you and the family must smell terrible as there is no way your out of date machine has the same capabilities to thoroughly and effective clean your clothing.
 
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Mr. Dee

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Enjoyed skimming through all 14 pages of the discussion.

Everyone's reasons for changing or not changing their devices are different. But I think the most important two reasons are budget and lack of necessity

I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet, but there are some people who haven't even updated their system in years. It's really common now to see people who use for example OS X Mojave or Catalina, or older, even though their devices are capable of being updated to newer version.

Coming back closer to the topic - I believe we now live in those times, when technology development has dramatically slowed down and that is why many people can't even feel necessity of an upgrade.

My example. I still use two Macs: iMac 2017 running Ventura 13.6.1. I use it primarily for really heavy tasks - a lot of open pages in Safari and Chrome, tens of photos in Photoshop and a project in Figma. It still works just fine and I can't feel that I need to upgrade
MacBook Pro 13 2015 with macOS Mojave. I use it mainly for light tasks like working with documents, MS Teams, Zoom etc., but it's still capable of doing some work in Photoshop without any big problems. I also use it when I travel somewhere and need a portable computer. Do I really need to get a replacement? Definitely not;)
I have a 15 inch Retina MacBook Pro on Mojave just because I don't want to lose my Adobe CS6.
 
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seek3r

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Mind reading isn't one of my stronger points. Written more than my fair share of technical documents, including compliance for the oil & gas industry, with collaboration. Never seen any HW much past 4 years in a corporate environment, at 7 years you need to change the deal...

Q-6
That may have come across more dismissive than I meant

I love OpenOffice (and happy that it can now be openoffice under apache), I use it for personal stuff all the time, but when it comes to shared docs with collaboration tools that integrate with our existing both general platform and auditing config at work it's not even a contender. It's not that it's bad, it's just not the right tool for the job.
 
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iPay

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Some they do and some they don't
And some you just can't tell
Some they will and some they won't
With some it's just as well
- Ancient poem
 
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seek3r

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Shameful. You should get with the times. Why do you continue to use that out of date, insecure junk.
Irony: as washing machines become more and more IoT devices the older and more busted and less connected your washer is the more secure it is :). 25 years old and no connectivity? Perfect! Ethernet port broken? Awesome! Wifi cant connect to anything anymore because it only support 802.11b? Brilliant! Company turned off their servers and went bankrupt and theres nowhere for it to phone home anymore? Great! (assuming no-one hijacks the DNS)

We should be competing for who has the *oldest* working washer as the status symbol!
 

kpluck

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Oct 8, 2018
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I just don't understand why they don't at least upgrade to a M1 MacBook Air for $800. If they can afford a new iPhone they can afford to update there out of date, insecure laptop.
I am guessing those people make purchase decisions on reasons other than something newer is available.

-kp
 
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antonrg

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Typing this on my MacBook 12" (early 2016). Macs can be used for a long time and as long as they do the job, why upgrade?
 
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bousozoku

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My Late 2011 15" MBP keeps grinding on and it's 100% stock. Last clean install was at the factory! Be very interesting to see if my M1 MBP has the same longevity. Has to be said the 2011 MBP has worked for it's coin, had a rough ride and then some.

It's up 24/7 and serves purpose, only time it's shutdown is when we move house...

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The only serious problem with the M1 in my MacBook Air is that it doesn't produce enough heat in the winter compared to my mid-2012 quad-core i7 MacBook Pro to make my room comfortable. It seems that it idles at 32 degrees C and even viewing web pages gets the temperature up to 54 degrees C easily. While processing video, it's at 100 degrees C.
 

dazey

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I use a 2017 Macbook (12" retina) because Apple haven't made a laptop that lightweight since. As soon as they bring out a sub 1kg replacement I will get that. Not holding my breath.
 
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LarTeROn

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May 8, 2020
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I'm researching rental costs because it's more in line with what Apple are doing these days.

My 2015 is better than the M3 because I can:
- replace the battery myself
- replace the SSD myself
- run Windows and linux

I'm prepared to throw money at getting a faster laptop for AI. However, I'm not prepared to go through the hassle of recycling and upgrading if it means dumping something otherwise good because I'm forced to.
 
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John V Keogh

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Oct 24, 2016
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Because my early 2011 MBP won’t support anything beyond High Sierra. I know OpenCore is an option but it doesn’t support the GPU switching
I had the same issue on my 2011 iMac until it broke down earlier this year. Although it has a quad core i7 it did not have Metal so I was stuck on High Sierra. Which was fine. The old version of Safari supported most sites, otherwise I could use the latest Tor, Firefox, Brave or Opera. Never Chrome because I do not agree with Google's idea of privacy.
 
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