Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
It has absolutely nothing to do with picking up a ball and going home and everything to do with how little this truly means to me. I've stated my opinion and someone has to chime in and say something insane like blacks are poor on an IPS panel. I honestly think such a statement is so incredibly empty and absurd. Funny how I've never once in my life encountered someone online or in my personal life that complained about the black color of text on an iPad or IPS panel. It's just something someone will chime in on here because they love their Amoled screens. It means nothing to me and it's a waste of time because people just want to fight. I don't want to fight. I've stated my opinion. But no matter what someone like you has to be snarky and rude about it. And let me also say this isn't the first time Vegas that you've acted this way towards me. I suspect you and Michael and several others are just hostile towards fellow MR members. I'm all for civilized debate but I lose all desire to continue forward as soon as it's quite clear who I'm dealing with. Just a waste of time for me.

And someone will once again point out how I said I was going to leave and now I'm back. Well I'm sorry but I feel the need to respond to these BS attacks on me for no reason. Enjoy your Amoled's. But some of you are just horrible to engage with.

I absolutely hate amoled screens but man do I not care if you like them or love them. And this talk of IPS being poor in any way is just absurd. It makes me just want to not be a part of this forum for a while. I'd argue that IPS does a terrific job of representing black.

Anyways I'm really done now. I really hate the way some of you treat others in this forum. Just really snarky, disrespectful, and aggravating.

Black is one of the most important settings when setting up any display. When tuning a TV blacks MUST be black or your contrast is screwed from the beginning.

It's so important that nearly every video game these days has an initial setting when you first start the game to override a poorly set up TV. You can eye it up on a TV or any display for that matter. Turn the TV to a black display, it should look off in the normal lighting you watch it in, not an extremely dark gray.

To say that one of the most important settings is absurd is well, absurd. If blacks levels don't effect someone personally then that's fine I have no issue with that. However it makes their views on how a screen should or shouldn't look moot...

That said I don't think the iPhone is that bad at black until you crank up the brightness. I only have an iPhone 4S but its comical to me but how bright the iPhone can get vs the S3 and now black levels don't matter. Double standards IMO.

Dark room black screen brightness max iPhone 4S.

adajuhu7.jpg


It's just the nature of LCD's. Since I never have my brightness on max, keep it around 25% actually I never have a problem.

Only Samsung device I have is a Nexus 10 which I prefer the screen of to my iPad 3 but just by a fraction.
 

hovscorpion12

macrumors 68040
Sep 12, 2011
3,044
3,125
USA
The rumored Samsung Galaxy S IV is said to have a 400+ PPI 1920x1080. Then again this is all rumor. Nothing confirmed. Samsung is Apple's biggest supplier in manufacturing the A-Series, screens..etc. it has changes so don't quote me.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV

Lava Lamp Freak

macrumors 68000
Jun 1, 2006
1,572
624
Movie mode will probably be the most authentic looking color-wise if you don't like the usual pop of amoled.



Mike

I looked at the Note 2 today in Movie mode. It made a huge difference to the saturation. It didn't have an internet connection so I wasn't able to pull up any images to compare it with my iPhone 4S. My iPhone 4S looks very washed out to me, though, so it wouldn't be a very good comparison anyway. The iPhone 5 looks much better than my 4S, but there is no way I'd buy the iPhone 5 with its stretched screen and the same iOS. I like the size of the Galaxy S3 a lot better, and I never expected to like a screen that size.

It is nice to know that the vividness of AMOLED is just an option and not the tech. Why didn't they include that option in the US GS3???
 

Tinmania

macrumors 68040
Aug 8, 2011
3,528
1,016
Aridzona
I looked at the Note 2 today in Movie mode. It made a huge difference to the saturation. It didn't have an internet connection so I wasn't able to pull up any images to compare it with my iPhone 4S. My iPhone 4S looks very washed out to me, though, so it wouldn't be a very good comparison anyway. The iPhone 5 looks much better than my 4S, but there is no way I'd buy the iPhone 5 with its stretched screen and the same iOS. I like the size of the Galaxy S3 a lot better, and I never expected to like a screen that size.

It is nice to know that the vividness of AMOLED is just an option and not the tech. Why didn't they include that option in the US GS3???

I don't know. I love having that option. It is uncanny just how much a difference it can make.

I am sure there are apps that can do it for the S3 but I would think you would need to be rooted. Heck, maybe you can even get the Samsung one--just like you can get Paper Artist on devices other than the Note.



Michael
 

BJ Krishnan

macrumors newbie
Feb 10, 2013
1
0
Dubai & India
S3 crisp screen, but white is bluish

I bought an S3 after falling in love with it - the screen size and sharpness being two parameters. However in real life use, each day I miss my iphone4s. The 'holdability', 'typability' is better in 4s and its colours are natural. Red is red, white is white. Especially white. The color white is virtually absent in an S3 screen. Its always off-white, bluish or overbright-white if brightness is increased - never the real white which is the most common colour in the net world. I found the HTC OneX screen to be better than S3 and iphone, but not sure of other aspects.
 

siiip5

macrumors 6502
Nov 13, 2012
395
0
Looking forward to the S4 with 440 PPI and full HD resolution, or so say the rumors. They also mentioned diamond shaped pixels, instead of squares for better clarity and colors? Should be very interesting come the announcement by Samsung.
 

JaySoul

macrumors 68030
Jan 30, 2008
2,629
2,865
Agree that the iPhone 5 nails it in terms of colours/clarity.

I don't much like the S3. However...

I was checking out the Sony Xperia Z and that screen is excellent.
 

thehustleman

macrumors 65816
Jan 3, 2013
1,123
1
It doesn't.

I find this very hard to belive. Especially considering that I have an ipod touch and. Having it on max brightness all the time kills the battery pretty quickly and that's WITHOUT a cellular radio and an LTE radio sucking down the battery.
 

blairh

macrumors 603
Dec 11, 2007
5,972
4,472
I find this very hard to belive. Especially considering that I have an ipod touch and. Having it on max brightness all the time kills the battery pretty quickly and that's WITHOUT a cellular radio and an LTE radio sucking down the battery.

I find that hard to believe.

I've been using iPhone's at max brightness since the 3G model in 2008. Battery life is never an issue unless I do something for a long period of time without stopping. I'm talking browsing or gaming for an hour at a time or more. Otherwise, I have no battery issues.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
I find that hard to believe.

I've been using iPhone's at max brightness since the 3G model in 2008. Battery life is never an issue unless I do something for a long period of time without stopping. I'm talking browsing or gaming for an hour at a time or more. Otherwise, I have no battery issues.

The iPhone color/saturation is at its worst at full brightness. Usually people that keep it at max are people that don't mind or even prefer Amoled...

Full brightness on LCD is a power hog too.

This are the glbenchmark battery test for the iPhone 5 and S3...

http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro25&D=Apple+iPhone+5&testgroup=battery

http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedet...sung+Galaxy+S+III+AT+and+T)&testgroup=battery

Glbenchmark 2.5 cranks the brightness to 100% and runs a program that maxes out the CPU/GPU basically.

Even though the S3 is moving more pixels due to a larger screen it last 18% longer albeit not as bright. I find these result to be very accurate. Its a free app on Android but is a paid app on iOS, I can't remember how much I paid for I think it was 2-4 bucks...
 

blairh

macrumors 603
Dec 11, 2007
5,972
4,472
The iPhone color/saturation is at its worst at full brightness. Usually people that keep it at max are people that don't mind or even prefer Amoled...

Full brightness on LCD is a power hog too.

This are the glbenchmark battery test for the iPhone 5 and S3...

http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro25&D=Apple+iPhone+5&testgroup=battery

http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedet...sung+Galaxy+S+III+AT+and+T)&testgroup=battery

Glbenchmark 2.5 cranks the brightness to 100% and runs a program that maxes out the CPU/GPU basically.

Even though the S3 is moving more pixels due to a larger screen it last 18% longer albeit not as bright. I find these result to be very accurate. Its a free app on Android but is a paid app on iOS, I can't remember how much I paid for I think it was 2-4 bucks...

Ah, okay. I was just responding to a small jab someone took at me. I use my iPhone 5 at full brightness and it looks terrific to my eyes. That's all I got.
 

DeathChill

macrumors 68000
Jul 15, 2005
1,663
90
The iPhone color/saturation is at its worst at full brightness. Usually people that keep it at max are people that don't mind or even prefer Amoled...

Full brightness on LCD is a power hog too.

This are the glbenchmark battery test for the iPhone 5 and S3...

http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedetails.jsp?benchmark=glpro25&D=Apple+iPhone+5&testgroup=battery

http://www.glbenchmark.com/phonedet...sung+Galaxy+S+III+AT+and+T)&testgroup=battery

Glbenchmark 2.5 cranks the brightness to 100% and runs a program that maxes out the CPU/GPU basically.

Even though the S3 is moving more pixels due to a larger screen it last 18% longer albeit not as bright. I find these result to be very accurate. Its a free app on Android but is a paid app on iOS, I can't remember how much I paid for I think it was 2-4 bucks...

Just pointing out that you dismiss it as "not as bright", but the brightness on the iPhone 5 and the S3 is a massive difference. The iPhone 5 brightness rating is 605 nits vs. 277 nits for the S3. I am surprised that the iPhone came within 18% of the S3 with more than double the brightness. Craziness!
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
Just pointing out that you dismiss it as "not as bright", but the brightness on the iPhone 5 and the S3 is a massive difference. The iPhone 5 brightness rating is 605 nits vs. 277 nits for the S3. I am surprised that the iPhone came within 18% of the S3 with more than double the brightness. Craziness!

I didn't dismiss that, I clearly mentioned it. Point was the battery take a serious pounding on max brightness.

The original topic was screen quality. My N10 has a high PPI screen that's incredibly bright even compared to my 4S. I've never use either at max brightness....
 

DeathChill

macrumors 68000
Jul 15, 2005
1,663
90
I didn't dismiss that, I clearly mentioned it. Point was the battery take a serious pounding on max brightness.

The original topic was screen quality. My N10 has a high PPI screen that's incredibly bright even compared to my 4S. I've never use either at max brightness....

It's weird but I always used to use mine at 100% brightness and then I eventually put it down to half-way and now it blinds me if I try putting it at 100%.

EDIT: Also, I wonder what the optimal brightness is. The 4S is pretty high compared to the N10 (598 vs. 371) but it doesn't make much of a difference in your opinion. I wonder what the actual visual difference is between the two maximum values.
 
Last edited:

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
It's weird but I always used to use mine at 100% brightness and then I eventually put it down to half-way and now it blinds me if I try putting it at 100%.

I'm the same way, I can literally feel a headache coming in seconds at max brightness.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.