Why can't you let go of Android and move to iPhone.

[Radon87000]

Oled also has other glaring issues, which is why people are returning their oled tvs as in the link posted previously. I prefer LCD until this technology is ironed out to make it as robust as LCD.

Burn in will never be fixed as in zero burn in on all OLEDs just like how yellow tint and backlight bleed on LCDs will never be fixed.Each technology is bound to have some limitations. MicroLED and quantum dot may solve all problems of yellow tint and burn in but some other limitations will crop up. You will never see a 100% perfect technology. That doesnt mean we shouldnt adopt progress . Otherwise we would still be stuck on TN Panels and never have moved to IPS. FYI backlight bleed is worse on IPS than TN.

As far as returns go, you are talking about OLED on 55 inch screens and so. The article clearly states phones and tablets and smaller screens arent affected

 

[I7guy]

Burn in will never be fixed as in zero burn in on all OLEDs just like how yellow tint and backlight bleed on LCDs will never be fixed.Each technology is bound to have some limitations. MicroLED and quantum dot may solve all problems of yellow tint and burn in but some other limitations will crop up. You will never see a 100% perfect technology. That doesnt mean we shouldnt adopt progress . Otherwise we would still be stuck on TN Panels and never have moved to IPS. FYI backlight bleed is worse on IPS than TN.

As far as returns go, you are talking about OLED on 55 inch screens and so. The article clearly states phones and tablets and smaller screens arent affected

Burn in will eventually be addressed. But It must be a lousy feeling to return a $20k tv due to burn in. I haven't returned an flat panel LCD tv ever due to any issues and have no plans on buying an oled tv until the dust settles. Same with my phones.

Glad there are choices.

 

[Radon87000]

Burn in will eventually be addressed.

It won't. Just like how yellow tint and backlight bleed have been around for years.My Dell P2414H has backlight bleed for years (If you want I can post the pic here)

But It must be a lousy feeling to return a $20k tv due to burn in. I haven't returned an flat panel LCD tv ever due to any issues and have no plans on buying an oled tv until the dust settles. Same with my phones.

Glad there are choices.

We dont know which TVs are being returned. The article makes a genralisation. Sony's 20k HDR OLED Tv is the latest on the block and you dont know how it will perform

Also what lousy feeling? I returned my 700 bucks iPhone 6 4 times and still had to put up with tint. Same for my iPad. My cheaper Galaxy Tab S2 was flawless on the first try. By your logic I should stick with ancient technology because of 1 single limitation when OLEDs blow the LCDs out of the water in EVERY OTHER aspect. My OLED devices havent come close to having any burnin after years of use. OTOH yellow tint is there on almost all my LCD devices.

TBH I was surprised to get a flawless iPhone 7 Plus on the first go. The average is 3 tries mostly for my LCD devices. I am very sensitive to the color shifts as I am OCD about these things


And to bring this thread back on track.These are the parts where Android demolishes iOS

1)MicroSD Card support

2)A proper cache cleaner.Apple broke the storage cleaners on iOS 10.3 beta with their APFS system so storage keeps getting filled up WITH NO WAY to reclaim it.My wallpaper app takes a humongous 2 gigs after a few months and now the only way to free up that space is to uninstall and reinstall. A big red flag

3)Android Widgets actually live update in the background.Not like on iOS when you scroll them ,the refresh

4)Customisation.I can make my phone Google free and live a pure Microsoft life.Different launchers allow me to switch up on demand when looks start becoming stale

5)Ability to set default apps. I cant believe the buffoon at Apple who allowed users to uninstall the Mail/defaults apps and when I open a mail link it directs me to reinstall instead of using the third party email client on the device. What was the point of the uninstall button?Steve Jobs would never have let experience be this jarring

6)Multi Window. I got a giant 5.5 inch screen and yet cant open 2 apps simultaneously.On Android its possible to REALLY Multitask on giant screens.My 9.7 inch iPad STILL doesnt have a number key on keyboard? Apparently the 12.9 does but do those 3 inches of space prevent a number row?

7)Wireless charging and quick charge.Takes almost 3 hours to full charge thanks to Apple continuing to compromise customer experience for cost cutting . You cant seriously bundle a 5w charger for a 3000mah battery. Using the iPad charger caused my iPhone 6 battery to decrease in battery health by 8% over just a year which means I cant use it. This almost eliminates the better battery advantage of the iPhone over the S7 Edge.

8)Notifications on iOS are a joke compared to Android.If I leave my phone idle for a week I will be treated to an unending haphazard list of notifications which is a headache just to look at and guess what? You need 3D Touch to clear all of them.Thats right. A $300 Android device can clear all notifications in one swoop which requires multitudes of taps on an older device

9)A proper file manager. Good luck segregating your business files amongst projects or downloading incompatible data files from Mail.The NFC cant even be used for sharing

10)No Planned obsolescence

 

[I7guy]

It won't. Just like how yellow tint and backlight bleed have been around for years.My Dell P2414H has backlight bleed for years (If you want I can post the pic here)


We dont know which TVs are being returned. The article makes a genralisation. Sony's 20k HDR OLED Tv is the latest on the block and you dont know how it will perform

Also what lousy feeling? I returned my 700 bucks iPhone 6 4 times and still had to put up with tint. Same for my iPad. My cheaper Galaxy Tab S2 was flawless on the first try. By your logic I should stick with ancient technology because of 1 single limitation when OLEDs blow the LCDs out of the water in EVERY OTHER aspect. My OLED devices havent come close to having any burnin after years of use. OTOH yellow tint is there on almost all my LCD devices.

TBH I was surprised to get a flawless iPhone 7 Plus on the first go. The average is 3 tries mostly for my LCD devices. I am very sensitive to the color shifts as I am OCD about these things


And to bring this thread back on track...
Steve Jobs
....

The link says what it says, any oled tv is not cheap and to return them says volumes about how some people feel about oled technology. I'll still buy LCD until the tech is better/more mature.

Taking about the thread topic...
- imo Apple hardware is superior(think soc)
- subjectively I like the look the iPhone better
- ease of use
- stability
- best in class support
- free 5 years of support with frequent updates
- iOS 10 makes the phone faster disapproving the (sic) Internet talking points of conspiracy theories
- some of the ease of use features are wonderful like unlocking the phone as I'm taking it out of my pocket

Talking about Steve jobs..another "he contacted me through a medium quote".

 

[Radon87000]

Well this just confirms it. My next phone is the S8 Edge or the Note 8. Timmy boy you must think I am bonkers or a special kind of fool to pay over 1100 bucks for a 32GB iPhone just for an OLED display which the competition sells for 700 and no home button. Hahahahahahahahahahaha . I could buy an One Plus 3T and a Note 8 for that price.Or even a GeForce GTX Titan XP or even a MacBook.What a joke.

If they dare charging over 1K(excluding taxes ofc) for a 32 gig phone my entire Apple product lineup goes on Craigslist. Android and Windows, here I come

 

[MindsEye]

Well this just confirms it. My next phone is the S8 Edge or the Note 8. Timmy boy you must think I am bonkers or a special kind of fool to pay over 1100 bucks for a 32GB iPhone just for an OLED display which the competition sells for 700 and no home button. Hahahahahahahahahahaha . I could buy an One Plus 3T and a Note 8 for that price.Or even a GeForce GTX Titan XP or even a MacBook.What a joke.

If they dare charging over 1K(excluding taxes ofc) for a 32 gig phone my entire Apple product lineup goes on Craigslist. Android and Windows, here I come

I think that it's pretty much a forgone conclusion that in many countries its going to be 1k+. They set the tone with the iPhone 7 and more so the new Macbook Pro's. If that wasn't going to be the case, the OLED iPhone would be replacing the current line up not supplementing it.

 

[Radon87000]

I think that it's pretty much a forgone conclusion that in many countries its going to be 1k+. They set the tone with the iPhone 7 and more so the new Macbook Pro's. If that wasn't going to be the case, the OLED iPhone would be replacing the current line up not supplementing it.

It's going to be 2k in many countries as its already at 1.3k in the US.I really can't justify paying as much as a laptop on a phone

 

[1050792]

iPhone prices are getting ridiculous and what's worse is that other companies follow those prices also but atleast Android phones drop in price in 3 months or so. Apple is acting like the iPhone is some kind of jewelery that needs to be priced up everytime they introduce something "new" that Galaxy phones have had for years. An oled display really? After all these years Apple decides to finally use an OLED display on their phone and milk their loyal costumers into buying something they think is Revolutionary.

 

[MindsEye]

It's going to be 2k in many countries as its already at 1.3k in the US.I really can't justify paying as much as a laptop on a phone

Same boat. I know i already spend to much on my tech and i was under no illusions about the premium i was paying in the past but now its a premium on top of a premium.

For me to spend over 1k on a phone, I'm unwilling to accept any shortcomings and really has to be the very best in its class in both hardware and software.

Latter is where the problem lies atm. There are many things i do like about iOS but from iOS 8 to 10 it simply has not progressed as far as i would have hoped.

 

[I7guy]

It's going to be 2k in many countries as its already at 1.3k in the US.I really can't justify paying as much as a laptop on a phone

You wonder how it's going to sell. According to a number of posts here, you would think the removal of the headphone jack "spelled doom" for apple; which in the last record-breaking quarter was far from it.

People might pay that for what is considered to be the highest-end apple phone.

Me...I'm going for the non-oled model.

 

[Radon87000]

You wonder how it's going to sell. According to a number of posts here, you would think the removal of the headphone jack "spelled doom" for apple; which in the last record-breaking quarter was far from it.

People might pay that for what is considered to be the highest-end apple phone.

Me...I'm going for the non-oled model.

The headphone jack was almost a non issue for me. I simply filled my house and my bag with adapters so I don't have to keep searching for it. One is always lying around somewhere. As far record breaking quarter goes, note it was a holiday season and it included one more week of sales compared to last year. Decline will resume from next quarter in


I don't care what people do. People even pay thousands of dollars for the Vertu luxury phones running a version of Android which is a year old.

For me personally I can't justify spending yearly on a phone (and just 32gb at that) as much as I spend on a laptop which lasts at least 3 years as opposed to 1 year for a phone. Heck I can buy the most powerful video card on the planet and the most powerful CPU on the planet at that price. Plain rip off. If this is what Apple demands for an iPhone I would rather get a Note 8 with microSD and enjoy not only the curved OLED but the exclusive features which iPhones who'll never get. 1k Plus iPhone = I am out unless it's at least 256gb capacity

And I ain't spending a single cent on the "non premium" throwaway LCD models which Apple throws at us like trash

 

[1050792]

You wonder how it's going to sell. According to a number of posts here, you would think the removal of the headphone jack "spelled doom" for apple; which in the last record-breaking quarter was far from it.

People might pay that for what is considered to be the highest-end apple phone.

Me...I'm going for the non-oled model.

People just buy whatever Apple makes so it makes no difference at all.

 

[I7guy]

The headphone jack was almost a non issue for me. I simply filled my house and my bag with adapters so I don't have to keep searching for it. One is always lying around somewhere


I don't care what people do. People even pay thousands of dollars for the Vertu luxury phones running a version of Android which is a year old.

For me personally I can't justify spending yearly on a phone (and just 32gb at that) as much as I spend on a laptop which lasts at least 3 years as opposed to 1 year for a phone. Heck I can buy the most powerful video card on the planet and the most powerful CPU on the planet at that price. Plain rip off. If this is what Apple demands for an iPhone I would rather get a Note 8 with microSD and enjoy not only the curved OLED but the exclusive features which iPhones who'll never get. 1k Plus iPhone = I am out unless it's at least 256gb capacity

And I ain't spending a single cent on the "non premium" throwaway LCD models which Apple throws at us like trash

Sure, you buy what you want. Want a Note 8, go for it. I'll be it's one heck of a phone. And, the trash you speak of has the most accurate display.

Phones have always been expensive, it's that until recently you were able to spread the payments out. $700 dollars or so, S7 or iphone 7 buys 2 laptops.

I expect the phone I want to buy will be about $800. Iphone 8+ with 64 gig, ips screen.
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People just buy whatever Apple makes so it makes no difference at all.

That's just hyperbole. Reading the posts on this forum, one gets the opposite impression.

 

[Radon87000]

Want a Note 8, go for it.
I'll be it's one heck of a phone.

Indeed.Considering the iPhone is now copying it.Heck Apple just coped the 3 model flagship model from Samsung. iPhone 7S=Galaxy S8,iPhone 7S Plus= Galaxy S8 Edge, iPhone Pro = Note 8

And, the trash you speak of has the most accurate display.

But not the best display.And once Apple gets their hands on Samsung's wide color displays they will be running on a color managed OS and destroy the current LCDs in color accuracy, hence it will cease to be the most accurate.

And yes I dont mean trash as a hyperbole or insult. It is trash for Apple. Apple will be mainly focusing on the iPhone Pro which will give them the most profits and drag the ASP up but with the OLED supply constraints and remaining iPhone inventory, they took the remaining iPhone 7 Plus LCDs at Foxconn,did some tweaking and threw a bone at people who cant afford iPhone Pro. Win-Win both sides

Phones have always been expensive, it's that until recently you were able to spread the payments out. $700 dollars or so, S7 or iphone 7 buys 2 laptops.

No.Not really. iPhone 7 buys 2 low end laptops .iPhone Pro buys a high end laptop or the most powerful CPU/video card. 1K is entering good laptops/Surface territory. You gotta be kidding me spending $1300 a year on phones. Up till $1000 I get a 256GB high end phone

I expect the phone I want to buy will be about $800. Iphone 8+ with 64 gig, ips screen.

I expect the phone I wil buy will be around $969,have a glass back,bezel-less design and no home button,microSD expansion,curved edge OLED which blows the doors of ips and an S-pen. Wait a second? Sounds familiar

 

[I7guy]

Indeed.Considering the iPhone is now copying it.Heck Apple just coped the 3 model flagship model from Samsung. iPhone 7S=Galaxy S8,iPhone 7S Plus= Galaxy S8 Edge, iPhone Pro = Note 8

Or the iphone will have a unique look, which is probably what Jony will ensure happens. Ring me up again when you have the next iphone in your hand and you can with certainty say anything is being copied; which is basic internet hyperbole. Nobody knows what the 7s looks like but it seems everybody has an opinion on the iphone 8.

But not the best display.And once Apple gets their hands on Samsung's wide color displays they will be running on a color managed OS and destroy the current LCDs in color accuracy, hence it will cease to be the most accurate.

But the most accurate.

And yes I dont mean trash as a hyperbole or insult. It is trash for Apple. Apple will be mainly focusing on the iPhone Pro which will give them the most profits and drag the ASP up but with the OLED supply constraints and remaining iPhone inventory, they took the remaining iPhone 7 Plus LCDs at Foxconn,did some tweaking and threw a bone at people who cant afford iPhone Pro. Win-Win both sides

I don't know what apple will be focusing on or not. We will have to wait and see how everything plays out. Not sure how you know with such certainty.

No.Not really. iPhone 7 buys 2 low end laptops .iPhone Pro buys a high end laptop or the most powerful CPU/video card. 1K is entering good laptops/Surface territory. You gotta be kidding me spending $1300 a year on phones. Up till $1000 I get a 256GB high end phone

People payed $750 for a Galaxy, $250 more for an iphone is not a stretch.

I expect the phone I wil buy will be around $969,have a glass back,bezel-less design and no home button,microSD expansion,curved edge OLED which blows the doors of ips and an S-pen. Wait a second? Sounds familiar

Enjoy your Note, I'll be enjoying my iphone 8(or 7s or whatever it's called), with an ips screen. Isn't it great that we both get to buy what we want.

 

[Radon87000]

Or the iphone will have a unique look, which is probably what Jony will ensure happens.

The iPhone doesnt look unique in the slightest. It looks dated with those huge bezels. THIS is unique. (The bottom image is the S8)

Ring me up again when you have the next iphone in your hand and you can with certainty say anything is being copied; which is basic internet hyperbole. Nobody knows what the 7s looks like but it seems everybody has an opinion on the iphone 8.

Every source right down till WSJ is unanimous that OLED on iPhone 8/Pro is a fact. iPhone 7S and 8 will be released simultaneously. No one cares about the 7S enough to leak it as its basically a 7 with upgraded internals which Apple wouldnt have released had OLED not been in short supply.

The question remains.Price aside will people buy the premium OLED iPhone or the non premium LCD one? For the majority the answer is obvious .

But the most accurate.

At least read the entire quote. Samsung's OLED on iPhones will be the most accurate as their wide color modes will finally be utilised

I don't know what apple will be focusing on or not. We will have to wait and see how everything plays out. Not sure how you know with such certainty.

What I can bet on is that the premium iPhone isnt standard prices and will be heavily overpriced? And whats such a big deal about curved OLED Apple is making.Samsung has had it for years

People payed $750 for a Galaxy, $250 more for an iphone is not a stretch.

People paid 750 for an S7 with expandable storage and 1000 dollars on an iPhone for 256 gigs storage. What rational platform agnostic people wont buy is a 1100 iPhone with 32GB

Enjoy your Note, I'll be enjoying my iphone 8(or 7s or whatever it's called), with an ips screen. Isn't it great that we both get to buy what we want.

Yup. Choice is great. Which is why Android is a great place to be

 

[KillaMac]

The iPhone doesnt look unique in the slightest. It looks dated with those huge bezels. THIS is unique. (The bottom image is the S8)

Every source right down till WSJ is unanimous that OLED on iPhone 8/Pro is a fact. iPhone 7S and 8 will be released simultaneously. No one cares about the 7S enough to leak it as its basically a 7 with upgraded internals which Apple wouldnt have released had OLED not been in short supply.

The question remains.Price aside will people buy the premium OLED iPhone or the non premium LCD one? For the majority the answer is obvious .




At least read the entire quote. Samsung's OLED on iPhones will be the most accurate as their wide color modes will finally be utilised



What I can bet on is that the premium iPhone isnt standard prices and will be heavily overpriced? And whats such a big deal about curved OLED Apple is making.Samsung has had it for years



People paid 750 for an S7 with expandable storage and 1000 dollars on an iPhone for 256 gigs storage. What rational platform agnostic people wont buy is a 1100 iPhone with 32GB




Yup. Choice is great. Which is why Android is a great place to be

Uhh my s7 edge was over $800 if you bought it out right.

 

[I7guy]

The iPhone doesnt look unique in the slightest. It looks dated with those huge bezels. THIS is unique. (The bottom image is the S8)

It's unique but not good looking, imo. Nothing I would want to own. And notice, I'm only speaking for myself here.

Every source right down till WSJ is unanimous that OLED on iPhone 8/Pro is a fact. iPhone 7S and 8 will be released simultaneously. No one cares about the 7S enough to leak it as its basically a 7 with upgraded internals which Apple wouldnt have released had OLED not been in short supply.

Fine, when it happens we will know. In the meantime, nobody really knows. Parroting rumors as fact, does not make it so.

The question remains.Price aside will people buy the premium OLED iPhone or the non premium LCD one? For the majority the answer is obvious .

Don't know how you can speak for anyone else, other than yourself. You are certainly not speaking for me. It's called hyperbole.

At least read the entire quote. Samsung's OLED on iPhones will be the most accurate as their wide color modes will finally be utilised

Let me know when displaymate says so.

What I can bet on is that the premium iPhone isnt standard prices and will be heavily overpriced? And whats such a big deal about curved OLED Apple is making.Samsung has had it for years

Nobody has a patent on fashion designs. The most obvious example is cars. And you have no proof, until apple says you do about what the next design will be.

People paid 750 for an S7 with expandable storage and 1000 dollars on an iPhone for 256 gigs storage. What rational platform agnostic people wont buy is a 1100 iPhone with 32GB

Again, you are speaking for the masses.

Yup. Choice is great. Which is why Android is a great place to be

Yup, feel the same about IOS. And apparently many other people as the iphone 7 sold very well in spite of the prognostications of some here on MR.

 

[Radon87000]

Uhh my s7 edge was over $800 if you bought it out right.

Even then it has microSD expansion which makes a huge difference

It's unique but not good looking, imo. Nothing I would want to own. And notice, I'm only speaking for myself here.

You find lack of bezels ugly? So the $1000 iPhone Pro will be uglier than the $650 7S?

Fine, when it happens we will know. In the meantime, nobody really knows. Parroting rumors as fact, does not make it so.

Even the pricing has been leaked. Its gonna happen whether you like it or not

Don't know how you can speak for anyone else, other than yourself. You are certainly not speaking for me. It's called hyperbole.

No its called common sense. The reason the OLED iPhone is supplementing the 7s AT A HIGHER PRICE is coz its a premium version. And premium> non premium hence OLED iPhone is better.

And if you want proof look at Android. Mostly everyone is on OLED.Manufacturers only adopted what consumers wanted

Let me know when displaymate says so.

They already did

" order to provide HDR, the Galaxy Note7 has the required Digital Cinema DCI-P3 Wide Color Gamut, plus perfect Blacks and an Infinite Contrast Ratio from its OLED display, and a peak Brightness of over 1,000 nits that is needed for High Dynamic Range. The Galaxy Note7 can play the latest streamed mobile HDR videos, and its built-in video processor also allows it to provide an Expanded Dynamic Range for standard video content that produces an HDR-like effect."

Nobody has a patent on fashion designs. The most obvious example is cars. And you have no proof, until apple says you do about what the next design will be.

No but to claim something which has been standard as revolutionary and charge exorbitant rates is anti consumeristic. Of course some zombies like that YouTube channel will even buy its packaging for $2000 if its got the Apple logo on it. Glad I am not one of them

Again, you are speaking for the masses.

Huh? Its basic economics. More expensive products sell in lesser quantities than the cheaper products. The utility of a 256GB iPhone reaches its limit for $1000 for people like me and there may quite be many people like me. Hence since Apple is forcing me to pay THROUGH THE ROOF for what is essentially a toy compared to a real computer, I will jump ship as will many others. The leaks from the S8 are mouthwatering to me and I dont see any reason why I should pay $1300 for something Android gives me for $1000 and with removable storage to boot?

Yup, feel the same about IOS. And apparently many other people as the iphone 7 sold very well in spite of the prognostications of some here on MR.

There is no choice on iOS. You buy what Apple decides what you will buy. You like LCD? Apple decides next year to phase out LCD iPhone.You gotta buy an OLED like it or not. On Android, I buy what I want to buy and I get what I want to buy. Want an LCD on Android? No doubt Sony and HTC will continue to make LCD flagships for years to come

You mean that HOLIDAY quarter with an extra week included YoY?

 

[Wowereit]

WhatsApp meets this and for those who live where it's used primarily I'm jealous. But it seems the US is still going to use SMS/MMS for the time being. But that's ok, let's keep letting our wireless carrier's have access to every message and photo we send, that's fine with everyone right?

Was pretty shocked when I realized that SMS is still a major thing in the US.
I barely write a handful of SMS messages a month, which seems to be quite normal in Germany.
People are either modern enough to use messenger apps or old school enough to just call you.

 

[I7guy]

Even then it has microSD expansion which makes a huge difference

Makes a difference to who? The price is the price. If the customer likes the price/value proposition he/she will make the purchase, which is why the alleged $1,000 phone will sell.

You find lack of bezels ugly? So the $1000 iPhone Pro will be uglier than the $650 7S?

It will have bezels.

Even the pricing has been leaked. Its gonna happen whether you like it or not

Correction, rumors about the pricing has been leaked. You cannot "prove" what the price is until apple announces it.

No its called common sense. The reason the OLED iPhone is supplementing the 7s AT A HIGHER PRICE is coz its a premium version. And premium> non premium hence OLED iPhone is better.

It's called false logic.

And if you want proof look at Android. Mostly everyone is on OLED.Manufacturers only adopted what consumers wanted

Is that why apple gets 94% of the profit in the smartphone sector? Because android is selling what people want?

They already did

" order to provide HDR, the Galaxy Note7 has the required Digital Cinema DCI-P3 Wide Color Gamut, plus perfect Blacks and an Infinite Contrast Ratio from its OLED display, and a peak Brightness of over 1,000 nits that is needed for High Dynamic Range. The Galaxy Note7 can play the latest streamed mobile HDR videos, and its built-in video processor also allows it to provide an Expanded Dynamic Range for standard video content that produces an HDR-like effect."

The note 7 is a dead item, due to samsungs rushing the phone to production and subsequent battery issues causing the phone to catch fire. The new king of the most accurate display according to displaymate is the iphone 7, which despite (incorrect and unfounded) prognostications by many here on MR, sold like gangbusters and apple, in spite of some of the doom and gloom, had another record breaking quarter.

No but to claim something which has been standard as revolutionary and charge exorbitant rates is anti consumeristic. Of course some zombies like that YouTube channel will even buy its packaging for $2000 if its got the Apple logo on it. Glad I am not one of them

For the most part apple does come out with groundbreaking(revolutionary) features pretty regularly; e.g. 3DT, 64 bit. And if it were anti-consumeristic apple would not have had a record breaking quarter. And with the last sentence you are just trolling.

Huh? Its basic economics. More expensive products sell in lesser quantities than the cheaper products. The utility of a 256GB iPhone reaches its limit for $1000 for people like me and there may quite be many people like me. Hence since Apple is forcing me to pay THROUGH THE ROOF for what is essentially a toy compared to a real computer, I will jump ship as will many others. The leaks from the S8 are mouthwatering to me and I dont see any reason why I should pay $1300 for something Android gives me for $1000 and with removable storage to boot?

Basic economics? It's more like fallacious thinking. Ferrari sells out it's inventory 2 years in advance. BMWs and Mercedes are selling like gangbusters. And apple is forcing you? That is pure hyperbole. You can have a stable of $100 android phones if you want, nobody is forcing anybody to buy anything. What hyperbole!

There is no choice on iOS. You buy what Apple decides what you will buy. You like LCD? Apple decides next year to phase out LCD iPhone.You gotta buy an OLED like it or not. On Android, I buy what I want to buy and I get what I want to buy. Want an LCD on Android? No doubt Sony and HTC will continue to make LCD flagships for years to come

Oh really, more hyperbole? You buy on android what android gives, if you want the phone. If not you move on. Isn't that the way things work? Apple is not forcing you to buy anything.

You mean that HOLIDAY quarter with an extra week included YoY?

Does 4 go into 365? It still goes in as a record breaking quarter. Good job Timmy.

 

[Radon87000]

Makes a difference to who? The price is the price. If the customer likes the price/value proposition he/she will make the purchase, which is why the alleged $1,000 phone will sell.

Thats what I am saying.There is insane price value proposition. For more than 800 you are getting more than 32 gigs of space, wireless charging, curved OLED, glass back. Thats almost 80% of the 1K iPhone right there

It will have bezels.

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/11/curved-bezel-free-iphones-barclays/
https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-8/

"
Rumors suggest it's going to be a radical redesign, with an edge-to-edge display that does away with the top and bottom bezels where features like the Touch ID fingerprint sensor and the front-facing camera are housed. Instead, Touch ID and the camera may be built directly into the display, meaning there will be no Home button. Jony Ive has wanted to introduce an iPhone that looks like a single sheet of glass for several years, and glass is also necessary if Apple wants to introduce wireless charging.

With an edge-to-edge design, the display would take up the entire front of the iPhone, but it isn't clear if the display will grow to fit the iPhone or the iPhone will be shrunken down to fit the display (rumors suggest Apple will use a 5.5-inch or larger display). The display itself is said to be flexible plastic OLED rather than an LCD, allowing Apple to introduce a thinner device that consumes less power and offers a better display with higher contrast ratio and more true to life colors. It may also feature edges that are curved on both sides like the Samsung Galaxy S7, but rumors are unclear on this point. Should the display have curved edges, the edges could respond to touch gestures."

Correction, rumors about the pricing has been leaked. You cannot "prove" what the price is until apple announces it.

And the price is exactly what I believe Apple is capable of setting. This has Tim Cook written all over it.Wouldnt be surprised if its a planned leak to gauge response. The headphone jack news was drip fed to us throughout the year to get us ready to accept it. Same with OLED

It's called false logic.

Whats false about it?

Is that why apple gets 94% of the profit in the smartphone sector? Because android is selling what people want?

Is that why Android is on 85% marketshare meaning more people use Android than iOS? Apple's OLED transition only confirms it

The note 7 is a dead item, due to samsungs rushing the phone to production and subsequent battery issues causing the phone to catch fire. The new king of the most accurate display according to displaymate is the iphone 7, which despite (incorrect and unfounded) prognostications by many here on MR, sold like gangbusters and apple, in spite of some of the doom and gloom, had another record breaking quarter.

The Note 7 is irrelevant. The point was that Samsung's displays are capable of wide color

And dont forget the other declining quarters and the lowest op margin in 7 years and that paycut.Apple is not out of the woods yet

For the most part apple does come out with groundbreaking(revolutionary) features pretty regularly; e.g. 3DT, 64 bit. And if it were anti-consumeristic apple would not have had a record breaking quarter. And with the last sentence you are just trolling.

64 Bit didnt provide any user facing changes. No one cares about 3DT which is why no Android manufacturer bothered copying it. And you do have companies making obscene amount of profits whilst ripping people off. Not sustainable in the long term btw. They can make as much profits as they want. $1300 for a phone is a rip off no matter which way you slice it.

Trolling? Those are facts. He bought a $300 Apple design book and shot bullets in it. He bought a iPhone 2G and paid $5400 for it(He got scammed into buying a box lol) . Who knows how many people like him are Apple customers?

Basic economics? It's more like fallacious thinking. Ferrari sells out it's inventory 2 years in advance. BMWs and Mercedes are selling like gangbusters. And apple is forcing you? That is pure hyperbole. You can have a stable of $100 android phones if you want, nobody is forcing anybody to buy anything. What hyperbole!

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Since when are iPhones Ferraris and Mercedes? I would say Vertu can fit that description more.

EDIT- So much for being a Ferrari. a near 1k phone and the matte black iPhone is getting chipped edges on back and bottom

https://9to5mac.com/2017/02/09/chipped-matte-black-iphone-7/

Yes.If I want to stay in Apple's ecosystem I need to shell out 1k for a good phone. Otherwise all my other Apple hardware worth a lot more than 1k is rendered useless as I lose integration

Oh really, more hyperbole? You buy on android what android gives, if you want the phone. If not you move on. Isn't that the way things work? Apple is not forcing you to buy anything.

Apple decides for you to remove the jack if you want iOS
Apple decides when you get to enjoy OLED if you want iOS
Apple decides when you get wireless charging if you want iOS

On Android I have a choice reflecting each of these options.Its my decision

Does 4 go into 365? It still goes in as a record breaking quarter. Good job Timmy.

Do you know how many phones Apple can sell in just 2 minutes worldwide.It makes a difference. And I wouldnt be surprised if the sales of the 7 increased thanks to this price increase. Those who cant afford 1K will go out and get an iPhone 7 right now. Anyho this is a holiday quarter. Lets see em what Q4 brings

 

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Thats what I am saying.There is insane price value proposition. For more than 800 you are getting more than 32 gigs of space, wireless charging, curved OLED, glass back. Thats almost 80% of the 1K iPhone right there

It's "insane" for you, to others it may be different.

https://www.macrumors.com/2016/11/11/curved-bezel-free-iphones-barclays/
https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/iphone-8/

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Rumors suggest

The keyword which I stopped the quote as is rumors.

And the price is exactly what I believe Apple is capable of setting. This has Tim Cook written all over it.Wouldnt be surprised if its a planned leak to gauge response. The headphone jack news was drip fed to us throughout the year to get us ready to accept it. Same with OLED

Who is this mythical "us" you are making a generalization about?

Whats false about it?

The underlying logic.

Is that why Android is on 85% marketshare meaning more people use Android than iOS? Apple's OLED transition only confirms it

Alleged. Kind of what happened when Apple release. 64 bit soc, android played catch up for a few years.

The Note 7 is irrelevant. The point was that Samsung's displays are capable of wide color

You mentioned it, but the iPhone 7 still has the most accurate color.

And dont forget the other declining quarters and the lowest op margin in 7 years and that paycut.Apple is not out of the woods yet

ANd don't forget the back to back record breaking quarters under Timmy. I'm sure next year will more than make up for that paycut.

64 Bit didnt provide any user facing changes. No one cares about 3DT which is why no Android manufacturer bothered copying it. And you do have companies making obscene amount of profits whilst ripping people off. Not sustainable in the long term btw. They can make as much profits as they want. $1300 for a phone is a rip off no matter which way you slice it.

Turbos don't play ovide any user facing changes either. Not everything that isn't seen is irrelevant as made out to be. And for those companies making obscene profits and if it bothers you, I say go somewhere else, but nah people will pay because they like the product.

Trolling? Those are facts. He bought a $300 Apple design book and shot bullets in it. He bought a iPhone 2G and paid $5400 for it(He got scammed into buying a box lol) . Who knows how many people like him are Apple customers?

Yes trolling, which is what labeling a group of people with a negative stereotype is.


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Since when are iPhones Ferraris and Mercedes? I would say Vertu can fit that description more.

People buy goods for their own reasons is the point, not due to some preconceived internet notions.

EDIT- So much for being a Ferrari. a near 1k phone and the matte black iPhone is getting chipped edges on back and bottom and thats with using the phone with a case

https://9to5mac.com/2017/02/09/chipped-matte-black-iphone-7/

Ferraris have notoriously bad repair records, yet you can't buy one.

Yes.If I want to stay in Apple's ecosystem I need to shell out 1k for a good phone. Otherwise all my other Apple hardware worth a lot more than 1k is rendered useless as I lose integration

You make your choices.

Apple decides for you to remove the jack if you want iOS
Apple decides when you get to enjoy OLED if you want iOS
Apple decides when you get wireless charging if you want iOS

You mean like the loss of removable battery, sd slot and ir blaster? Sure you have choices if you agree to samsungs choices.

On Android I have a choice reflecting each of these options.Its my decision

It's the illusion of choice.

Do you know how many phones Apple can sell in just 2 minutes worldwide.It makes a difference. And I wouldnt be surprised if the sales of the 7 increased thanks to this price increase. Those who cant afford 1K will go out and get an iPhone 7 right now. Anyho this is a holiday quarter. Lets see em what Q4 brings

Isnt holiday quarters typically when retailers make their most money. Apple could have made money but they had a record breaker. And what price increase did Apple announce? Just checked, nothing from Cupertino.

 

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Was pretty shocked when I realized that SMS is still a major thing in the US.
I barely write a handful of SMS messages a month, which seems to be quite normal in Germany.
People are either modern enough to use messenger apps or old school enough to just call you.

Well, SMS is just messaging, so it's more or less part of that "modern" messenger app use essentially.

 

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Think because cellphones is my line of work, I really don't care whether I'm on Android or iOS... To be frank, nothing over the last few years has made me sit up and say I'm going for that. The handset that has come close, has been the Xiaomi Mii Mix, and to a lesser extent the One Plus 3T. For now I'm still using an iPhone 6 plus, and will use it for another few years .