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Rumors about major changes on the next iPhone always turn out to be true. eg- Removal of the headphone jack. The major new changes in the iPhone 8 are a curved OLED display,glass back and wireless charging

It'll probably have a shrunken bezel like the S8 though no? But yeah that tech's old and the curved display doesn't exactly excite me.
 

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I just did...

iPhone 7 purchased yesterday. Love it! Thats coming rom the fabled Galaxy S7.

I am an iOS to android and back again switcher. Here are my thoughts.

The unbiased cant deny the S7 is the better phone. Samsung probably come here for the 'what do you want from the next iPhone' threads then actually do it!

BUT!

if your use to iOS and want a no fuss quality phone then iPhone is your phone. Incremental improvements over the years but not different enough to alienate long term users. Ive been on android after the iPhone 6+ for 2 years and its nice to be back! Mac, Pad, Pod and phone is my reason this time.
Even qualifying "unbiased" is subjective as is what constitutes a "better" phone stated as being a fact.
 
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I'm already liking this thing! Waiting for it to transfer my pictures.

Right LG V20. Left iPhone 7 plus

V20 is probably going to the be more unique experience because of the top ticker. The LG UI reminds me of old Touchwiz with a lot of the features. If it has Nougat, be sure to take advantage of multi-window.
 
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V20 is probably going to the be more unique experience because of the top ticker. The LG UI reminds me of old Touchwiz with a lot of the features. If it has Nougat, be sure to take advantage of multi-window.

Yeah, it has Nougat. Still trying to transfer my iphone stuff to it. I saw the multiwindow stuff, looked neat.
 
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Yeah, it has Nougat. Still trying to transfer my iphone stuff to it. I saw the multiwindow stuff, looked neat.

Is it good enough to be your daily driver? Problem I have with the V20 is weariness of boot looping. I hardly use my Nexus 5X for fears of boot looping as well. But I think my 5X is a great little device for what it is. The new update for using the fp scanner as a notification bar swiper is cool. Rumors of the Google Assistant dropping on the 5X and 6P adds some longevity. This phone is going to be having it's last major update this year with Android O.
 

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Another reason why not to own an iPhone: http://phandroid.com/2017/02/01/att-5g-rollout-austin-indianapolis/

Apple is behind in LTE tech. It took till the 5 to get LTE. The S7 has more LTE-A features w/T-Mobile as well. LTE-A is about to hit it off on AT&T too.
Yep.

We've had LTE-A since the Galaxy S4 when Samsung released a LTE-A S4 for S.Korea, I believe they did this with Note 3 and S5, and finally the Note 4 became the 1st one globally available with it.

My network Vodacom (Vodafone South Africa)launched their LTE-A network in 2015, so by the time it arrived many of us in Androids saw quite a nice bump in LTE performance.

My Samsung's certainly hold LTE far better than the iPhones and iPads, there is a particular place in each room at home where I can use LTE with my iPad unless I am at our family home where we got Signal Boosters, due to the iDevices being damn near useless, with the Boosters on we get full LTE all over the house.

Ever noticed how awful iOS behave when signal drops to EDGE? Now that can be truly annoying.
 

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Can you elaborate where it makes a difference to the user? I'm guessing this hyperbole is so far down on the list of most people...
That depends where the people are. Here on the African continent I can go from full LTE-A to spotty LTE depending where I am and even have the phone or tablet shift between LTE, HSDPA+ to EDGE, and iOS devices can be a true pain in these situations.

In European countries and NA it may be down the list due to you guys having WiFi all over.
 
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Yep.

We've had LTE-A since the Galaxy S4 when Samsung released a LTE-A S4 for S.Korea, I believe they did this with Note 3 and S5, and finally the Note 4 became the 1st one globally available with it.

My network Vodacom (Vodafone South Africa)launched their LTE-A network in 2015, so by the time it arrived many of us in Androids saw quite a nice bump in LTE performance.

My Samsung's certainly hold LTE far better than the iPhones and iPads, there is a particular place in each room at home where I can use LTE with my iPad unless I am at our family home where we got Signal Boosters, due to the iDevices being damn near useless, with the Boosters on we get full LTE all over the house.

Ever noticed how awful iOS behave when signal drops to EDGE? Now that can be truly annoying.

Never had that experience before, but I can imagine it being sluggish like crazy.
 

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Is it good enough to be your daily driver? Problem I have with the V20 is weariness of boot looping. I hardly use my Nexus 5X for fears of boot looping as well. But I think my 5X is a great little device for what it is. The new update for using the fp scanner as a notification bar swiper is cool. Rumors of the Google Assistant dropping on the 5X and 6P adds some longevity. This phone is going to be having it's last major update this year with Android O.

The V20 hasn't had much for boot looping issues as per the forums. My brother has a V10 and its been a good phone for him as well.

I finally got it setup, and so far I like it. No lag. Pretty smooth. I setup Nova Launcher on it and just got it all the way I like it for now.
 
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The V20 hasn't had much for boot looping issues as per the forums. My brother has a V10 and its been a good phone for him as well.

I finally got it setup, and so far I like it. No lag. Pretty smooth. I setup Nova Launcher on it and just got it all the way I like it for now.

Nova Launcher is the best option to get rid of the LG crap UI lol. It also has a good DAC in there too, right?
 

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No use arguing with him. He keeps repeating his false arguments. Anyone who believes LCD even stands a chance against OLED needs to visit an optometrist

I very much prefer LCD over OLED. I have never seen an led screen with as good viewing angles as a lcd, its always shifting in green, red or whatever, never happens with lcd. I really hope Apple will continue using lcd.
 
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No use arguing with him. He keeps repeating his false arguments. Anyone who believes LCD even stands a chance against OLED needs to visit an optometrist
Hyperbole, false logic etc is on the other side of false arguments coupled with mistaking objectivity for subjectivity. Plus moving goal posts.
 
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I very much prefer LCD over OLED. I have never seen an led screen with as good viewing angles as a lcd, its always shifting in green, red or whatever, never happens with lcd. I really hope Apple will continue using lcd.

This is straight from Displaymate on Samsung's OLED

" The Future of OLED Smartphones
OLEDs have now evolved and emerged as the premium mobile Smartphone display technology. There is no better confirmation of this than a series of well founded rumors from a number of prominent publications that Apple will be switching the iPhone to OLED displays in 2017.

OLED displays provide a number of significant advantages over LCDs including: being much thinner, much lighter, with a much smaller bezel providing a near rimless design, they can be made flexible and into curved screens, plus they have a very fast response time, better viewing angles, and an always-on display mode. Many of the OLED performance advantages result from the fact that every single sub-pixel in an OLED display is individually directly powered, which results in better color accuracy, image contrast accuracy, and screen uniformity.

Because of their very flexible power management capabilities, OLEDs are not only more power efficient than LCDs for most image content, but they now deliver much higher peak Brightness than LCDs because of this. However, for mostly all white screen content LCDs are likely to remain brighter and more power efficient for a while. OLED displays are now manufactured on flexible substrates, which allows the screens to be curved and rounded like on the Galaxy Note7 and earlier Galaxy Edge and Galaxy Round displays.

Apple’s rumored move to an OLED iPhone is simply a recognition of all of the above, particularly as more and more competing Smartphones come with OLED displays."


The Galaxy Note7 matches or breaks new Smartphone display performance records for:

· Widest Color Gamuts for Current Content (DCI-P3 for Digital Cinema and Adobe RGB for Digital Photos)

· Highest Peak Brightness (1,048 nits)

· Highest Contrast Rating in Ambient Light (228)

· Highest Screen Resolution (2560x1440)

· Highest (infinite) Contrast Ratio

· Lowest Screen Reflectance (4.6 percent)

· Smallest Brightness Variation with Viewing Angle (21 percent)

· Almost every display lab test and measurement shows some improvements compared to the Galaxy Note5 and Galaxy S7.
 

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So basically attempting to prove an opinion wrong with a review of a discontinued phone.o_O
Samsung's compete with themselves when it comes to displays so even if you remove the Note 7 , the S7 Edge is still close to what the Note 7 is. BTW the first part is not a Note 7 exclusive but facts about OLED which you continually deny
 
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Its not a major issue on smartphones.I never denied its not an issue.Its just not widespread as you claim. The chances of burn in are just as good as backlight bleed and yellow tint on LCD.Each technology has limitations you MUST accept if the pros far outweigh the cons which is the case with OLED. Otherwise we would start saying IPS panels are crap because TN Panels have far better response time despite IPS being superior in all other aspects
 

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Its not a major issue on smartphones.I never denied its not an issue.Its just not widespread as you claim. The chances of burn in are just as good as backlight bleed and yellow tint on LCD.Each technology has limitations you MUST accept if the pros far outweigh the cons which is the case with OLED. Otherwise we would start saying IPS panels are crap because TN Panels have far better response time despite IPS being superior in all other aspects
Bold statements with searches on the internet proving it is an issue. In my opinion, and my use case there are more pros to a good IPS display than an not.
 

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Bold statements with searches on the internet proving it is an issue. In my opinion, and my use case there are more pros to a good IPS display than an not.
Searches on the Internet also reveal TN as being better than IPS in some aspects.Searches also come up with tons of results for backlight bleed and yellow tint

OLEDs have all the pros of LCD displays and solve some of its shortcomings
 

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Searches on the Internet also reveal TN as being better than IPS in some aspects.Searches also come up with tons of results for backlight bleed and yellow tint

OLEDs have all the pros of LCD displays and solve some of its shortcomings
And introduce shortcomings of their own, such as burn-in and color shifting. Which is why ips displays are better in some aspects.
 
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And introduce shortcomings of their own, such as burn-in and color shifting. Which is why ips displays are better in some aspects.
They solved the problems of yellow tint and backlight bleed.The only flaw (which I have never seen) is burn in on OLED.Now with power management,contrast ratio,brightness and viewing angles,curved edges OLED wipes the floor with LCD
 

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They solved the problems of yellow tint and backlight bleed.The only flaw (which I have never seen) is burn in on OLED.Now with power management,contrast ratio,brightness and viewing angles,curved edges OLED wipes the floor with LCD

Other than costs this maybe why we don't see OLED in computer monitors. Because of how easily they burn in.
 
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They solved the problems of yellow tint and backlight bleed.The only flaw (which I have never seen) is burn in on OLED.Now with power management,contrast ratio,brightness and viewing angles,curved edges OLED wipes the floor with LCD
You ignored the link I posted which is about tvs with oled displays getting returned due to burn-in. This one issue is significant enough to outweigh the other advantages or people wouldn't be returning their tvs. Now are Samsung phones somehow immune to this burn in and color shift?
 

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You ignored the link I posted which is about tvs with oled displays getting returned due to burn-in
And you ignored all my posts about yellow tint and backlight bleed.Do you want me to post links?Heres one just from the last month

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-7-plus-yellow-tint.2027957/

This one issue is significant enough to outweigh the other advantages or people wouldn't be returning their tvs
Burn in is more significant than yellow tint and backlight bleed?

Now are Samsung phones somehow immune to this burn in and color shift?
Yes. Three quarters of Android users havent complained about anything of the sort on a mass scale.You will probably find cases similar to the yellow tint cases of the iPhone
 
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