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I7guy

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And you ignored all my posts about yellow tint and backlight bleed.Do you want me to post links?Heres one just from the last month

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-7-plus-yellow-tint.2027957/


Burn in is more significant than yellow tint and backlight bleed?


Yes. Three quarters of Android users havent complained about anything of the sort on a mass scale.You will probably find cases similar to the yellow tint cases of the iPhone
Yellow tint and backlight bleed are sporadic occurences. Burn-in in a certainty on oled, it's a function of the technology. The only way to avoid burn in is not to use the devices.

IMO burn-in is worse than backlight bleed.

Since "facts" are being thrown around without verification; with tens and tens of millions of iphone devices 99.9% of iphone users haven't complained about anything of the sort on a mass scale.
 

jamezr

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Face it guys....both platforms are missing features they other platform has to offer.
They both have their pros and cons........ Best of both worlds is to have one device of both platforms :)
 
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mi7chy

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And introduce shortcomings of their own, such as burn-in and color shifting. Which is why ips displays are better in some aspects.

You mean burn-in like on this iPhone 6S?

https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/5s0def/question_wokeup_next_morning_phone_had_crashed/
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Klyster

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That screen did return to normal after a while, not really the same thing as omled burn.

I'm putting my hand up, I've had two samoled screens burn, S2 after a year or so and Note 4 which burned within the warranty period.

The Note got fixed, came back like new and the S2 I sold with full disclosure and the buyer was happy.

Both were caused by the browser I used at the time and my terrible habit, at the time, of using the screen at 100% brightness.

So yeah, omled does burn but I think it needs help burning as nothing else has burned since and I use my tab s 10.5 every day for video, at nearly 100 percent brightness for years, and no burn. The Tab s 10 5 is getting old now too, still the best screen for watching video in bed, stunning, if anyone made another omled tablet in the same scale, i'll buy it.
My old note 5 is being used by my partner and no burn.
The Note 4 is being used by someone I know and no burn after a year or so, this is the phone that got repaired.
Up to where my mother smashed my old S5, which I gave her, no burn.

But they do burn, there's no question that they do, the real question is how often? I'm guessing not much anymore.
 
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Fille84

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It's all about a matter of taste in my opinion. OLED gives way to oversaturated colors, and basic mode on Samsung almost makes the colors to dull. In my opinion the LCD on iPhone 7 is perfect. Great colors, not too saturated and not too dull. Good whites and blacks and once again better viewing angles than Samsung Galaxy s7 no matter what a review are saying.
 

Klyster

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Yellow tint and backlight bleed are sporadic occurences. Burn-in in a certainty on oled, it's a function of the technology. The only way to avoid burn in is not to use the devices.

IMO burn-in is worse than backlight bleed.

Since "facts" are being thrown around without verification; with tens and tens of millions of iphone devices 99.9% of iphone users haven't complained about anything of the sort on a mass scale.

My omled tab s 10.5 should have burn, I've used it for hours, pretty much every day for years. No burn.
But you're kinda right.
I think there is a scenario where burn is likely to occur.

High brightness, coupled with a stark difference of contrast, i.e: icons, toolbars, window borders etc... coupled with the combination of both being static for a period of time that allows image retention.

Opera browser was the image retention I experienced on both my screen burns.
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It's all about a matter of taste in my opinion. OLED gives way to oversaturated colors, and basic mode on Samsung almost makes the colors to dull. In my opinion the LCD on iPhone 7 is perfect. Great colors, not too saturated and not too dull. Good whites and blacks and once again better viewing angles than Samsung Galaxy s7 no matter what a review are saying.

Most of my iphone friends and family comment on how great my screen (s7 edge, note 5 before that) looks. I can't say I've ever said the same to them. "It looks so clear...."
 
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Fille84

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My omled tab s 10.5 should have burn, I've used it for hours, pretty much every day for years. No burn.
But you're kinda right.
I think there is a scenario where burn is likely to occur.

High brightness, coupled with a stark difference of contrast, i.e: icons, toolbars, window borders etc... coupled with the combination of both being static for a period of time that allows image retention.

Opera browser was the image retention I experienced on both my screen burns.
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Most of my iphone friends and family comment on how great my screen (s7 edge, note 5 before that) looks. I can't say I've ever said the same to them. "It looks so clear...."

No no when it comes to clarity the screen on the s7 wins hands down. But I was talking about the color saturation and viewing angles and not the resolution.
 

Radon87000

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That screen did return to normal after a while, not really the same thing as omled burn.

I'm putting my hand up, I've had two samoled screens burn, S2 after a year or so and Note 4 which burned within the warranty period.

The Note got fixed, came back like new and the S2 I sold with full disclosure and the buyer was happy.

Both were caused by the browser I used at the time and my terrible habit, at the time, of using the screen at 100% brightness.

So yeah, omled does burn but I think it needs help burning as nothing else has burned since and I use my tab s 10.5 every day for video, at nearly 100 percent brightness for years, and no burn. The Tab s 10 5 is getting old now too, still the best screen for watching video in bed, stunning, if anyone made another omled tablet in the same scale, i'll buy it.
My old note 5 is being used by my partner and no burn.
The Note 4 is being used by someone I know and no burn after a year or so, this is the phone that got repaired.
Up to where my mother smashed my old S5, which I gave her, no burn.

But they do burn, there's no question that they do, the real question is how often? I'm guessing not much anymore.

Those were the old days when OLED was in its infancy . Nowadays the chances of burn in on the latest OLEDs are too insignificant to even be considered a factor . On the other hand, almost all of my devices except my iPhone 7 plus have tint

This is my Nexus 7 with pinkish/yellowish tint and it looks worse in real life than the photos

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This is my iPad Air 2 and although the tint is drastically lesser it's still there as you can see

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This is my iPhone 6 and even that has yellow tint at the top and bottom and this is after 4 exchanges
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This is my Galaxy Tab S2 which after almost a year of usage still hasn't developed burn in and has zero yellow tint. (Ignore the screen protector bubble in the top right)

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This is my iPhone 7 Plus which is the only perfect LCD I have

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Anyone who actually believes burn in to be more severe than yellow tint and back light bleed on LCD is basically in denial .
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No like this on an S7.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s7/help/screen-burn-time-t3363050

Phone was jailbroken? Any proof the jailbreak didn't damage the screen? Got any non-jailbroken pictures?
Jailbreak is software.Screen burn in is hardware
 
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I7guy

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Those were the old days when OLED was in its infancy . Nowadays the chances of burn in on the latest OLEDs are too insignificant to even be considered a factor . On the other hand, almost all of my devices except my iPhone 7 plus have tint

This is my Nexus 7 with pinkish/yellowish tint and it looks worse in real life than the photos


This is my Galaxy Tab S2 which after almost a year of usage still hasn't developed burn in and has zero yellow tint. (Ignore the screen protector bubble in the top right)


Anyone who actually believes burn in to be more severe than yellow tint and back light bleed on LCD is basically in denial .
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Jailbreak is software.Screen burn in is hardware
Anyone who believes, according to your logic burn-in is not a function of oled technology is in denial.

And it seems the jaimbreak did something to the screen.
 

nviz22

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Anyone who believes, according to your logic burn-in is not a function of oled technology is in denial.

And it seems the jaimbreak did something to the screen.

Although mi7chy's last post on reddit describes a potential iPhone screen issue, I think they bring up a valid point: iPhones aren't exempt from problems. Arguing about the flaws of screens doesn't do much. It's a forgone conclusion that OLED tech is considered better, albeit more expensive. LCDs aren't flawless. Neither are OLEDs. I don't mind the color saturation of the S5 or something like that. If OLED isn't the future standard on flagship devices, then why did Apple start investing in the technology? We can argue back and forth about display tech flaws, yet it is just going to be moot. If you want to stick to LCD, then you better hope Apple makes a cheaper iPhone model with LCD IPS displays. Radon is showing you some of his/her devices.
 

Radon87000

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Anyone who believes, according to your logic burn-in is not a function of oled technology is in denial.

And it seems the jaimbreak did something to the screen.

Well what do you know I just searched for lcd burn in on Google and got some hits

Also your claim about yellow tint being sporadic and rare has been demolished as out of the 5 LCD devices I had only 1 has a flawless screen and judging by the threads running into pages in the iPhone section I am not alone

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KillaMac

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burn-in is a certainty as its part of the technology of oled.

Burn-In will happen on any display. It is just more prone to happen on certain type like OLED more than others. It even happened on TV's and Monitors before LCDs.
 

nviz22

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That's a store model which stays on all day, yes, it has burn but it's not from normal usage.

I agree burn in on a store model isn't indicative of normal usage. How many times do people need to mention that LCDs have problems too? Apple isn't immune to problems. Defects happen, but that doesn't mean new technology shouldn't exist or people need to stop using AMOLED devices. Samsung, LG, Apple, Google, ZTE are among many companies using OLED tech in some facet. I personally think my Apple Watch looks nice with AMOLED. The Series 2 is much better with its OLED screen than the Series 1.
 
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Radon87000

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Plasmas are a deflection and lcd burn-in is much rarer than oled burn-in(which is inherent in the technology) and most of it is image persistence which goes away.

so burn in does exist on LCD displays. Just slightly more chances of it being there on an OLED in an unrealistic scenario of the device being turned on 24x7 but yellow tint and backlight bleed develop on an out of the box phone in a normal use case as I proved above in my pics.OLED has better power management, is thinner , can be foldable, has better color accuracy on a colour managed OS, is brighter, and has infinite contrast.
And to conclude Jony Ive has also called LCD an ancient technology. Sounds obvious which one is superior
 

maflynn

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Posts and portions of posts were removed. Do not talk about another member, This is a discussions forum and all opinions are welcome.

If you do not like what's being posted, then move on, there's no need to ridicule or mock a member.
 
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I dont let go of Android to iOs because I prefee having an advanced phone with me than a kid's toy with icons stuck on top of a wallpaper
 

I7guy

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so burn in does exist on LCD displays. Just slightly more chances of it being there on an OLED in an unrealistic scenario of the device being turned on 24x7 but yellow tint and backlight bleed develop on an out of the box phone in a normal use case as I proved above in my pics.OLED has better power management, is thinner , can be foldable, has better color accuracy on a colour managed OS, is brighter, and has infinite contrast.
And to conclude Jony Ive has also called LCD an ancient technology. Sounds obvious which one is superior
Oled also has other glaring issues, which is why people are returning their oled tvs as in the link posted previously. I prefer LCD until this technology is ironed out to make it as robust as LCD.
 
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