There is certainly objectively ugly design, yes. But this argument is stupid, so I won't debate this anymore with you.
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There is certainly objectively ugly design, yes. But this argument is stupid, so I won't debate this anymore with you.
Ever hear of the saying "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" ?
The words "objectively" and "ugly" should not be used in the same sentence. As an example, I prefer Android's dark user interface to iOS' light grey boring UI. You clearly don't agree. They are our OPINIONS.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...yLDEwNSwiY29tLmRlbnBlci5hZGRvbnNkZXRlY3RvciJd
Find me a beholder who finds that beautiful or even remotely attractive. Then find me an iOS app that hideous. Objectively ugly, case closed.
Looks fine to me.
But what does 3rd party apps have to do with Android exactly ? There's plenty of very butt ugly iOS apps out there, just like there's plenty of ugly Android apps.
And yes, it's all subjective, no matter how much you don't want it to be. Beauty is a subjective quality.
That's not even an app you'd use every day. It just scans for adware in other apps. It doesn't have to be nice looking. It just has to work.
It's just a matter of quality control, that's my point. There is no standard of design or aesthetics like there is in iOS, no theme, no coherency. That's a trending app on the Play Store, you'd never see that on iOS.
That's one of the reasons I dislike Android.
There's a standard of design. It's called Holo. However, it's not strictly enforced. Over time, pretty much every app will be forced to adhere to this.
Here's a list of apps that do adhere. What do you think?
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/8/2933271/android-holo-themed-apps-organized-list
Theres some good apps on there, but those only add up to < .1% of all apps on the Store, and that's awful. I wish you were right about every app eventually being forced to adhere, but that's just not true. As far as I know, Google won't enact stringent policies for compliance with their design guidelines, and so 3rd party apps will continue to be a sloppy mess.
Debate I can handle, but literally every thread in this subforum ends up flooded with trolls spouting rubbish. And yes, you're right there are trolls and fanboys on both sides its just that the iOS ones always seem a bit more militant to me
Yea and that same power to reject apps means that Apple can enforce their own agenda and interests. One example:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/06/08/apple_copies_rejected_app/
I don't find that icon ugly. Looks just as cartoonish as every ios app icon. But do you consider the gamecenter or numbers icon more pleasing? There are two hideous stock ios icons for you. Not even a 3rd party one, like your example.
See it's blanket statements like this which are the problem. You are generalising this statement to half a million apps?
Awesome...
I don't find that icon ugly. Looks just as cartoonish as every ios app icon. But do you consider the gamecenter or numbers icon more pleasing? There are two hideous stock ios icons for you. Not even a 3rd party one, like your example.
I wasn't talking about the icon...
And the app scene is a mess, just go peruse the Play Store charts.
Huh? Objectively ugly? This is a contradiction..."ugly" by definition is subjective... see this is the crap we have to deal with in this forum.
"Objectively ugly". Hahahaha. That's made my day. Thanks!
Lets be honest here. There is such a thing as absolute ugliness. There's a lot of apps that almost every person would find ugly and a lot of apps that almost every person would find beautiful. The people who don't agree typically have something wrong with them.
The Android app zbarvian posted is ugly by today's standards, yes. No doubt about it. If you don't think that app is ugly, you're lying to yourself.
Basically, you are saying here that your opinion on everything is right and anyone that disagree's with you is wrong? Most of your posts look like the ranting of someone that was bullied as a kid and is now a keyboard ninja. Sorry dude, but always with the negative vibes from you. Gotta put you on the banished list. Bad vibes don't work for me.
You're missing the point. Even if a million people look at something and everyone of them thinks it is ugly, it is still subjective.
That is the point I was trying to make. "Objectively ugly" is an absolute contradiction...
Do you actually believe what you're posting or are you trying to wind people up?
Clearly people have different opinions on what looks good, otherwise we'd all be going for the exact same type of partner, wearing the exact same clothes, etc.
Is that like a list of yours?
Anyway, I'm just being honest here. We can't say that nothing is absolutely ugly just because somebody with bad taste finds it appealing.
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Not at all. If I posted a photograph of a fresh fecal chunk straight from my own rectum in an art gallery, I might find it pretty, and a couple of other people might find it pretty, but almost all people will find it absolutely disgusting. Would you still say that that photograph of fecal matter is "not objectively ugly"?
The question would be "What's mentally wrong with the people who find fecal matter pretty?"
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Yes, absolutely. I believe every single thing I post. Preferences can differ, but there is always going to be an absolute standard of beauty.
Your examples are flawed. If you got a group of 100 women and polled 10,000 men there would be 1 woman in that group whom nearly everybody thinks is the most attractive, and 1 woman who whom nearly everybody thinks is the ugliest. As for clothes, if you got 100 shirts, the same thing would happen if you polled 10,000 people.
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The beauty of fecal matter is subjective? Really?
You think one woman / man would be the clear winner? That's really unlikely.. Some like blondes, some like brunettes, some like redheads, some like boobs, some like legs, some like bums.
There's no such thing as an absolute standard of beauty.
Ok, I understand the problem now. It seems no one understands what the actual definitions of "subjective" and "objective" are.
If they did we would not be having this conversation.
I'm saying by definition, "ugly" as a descriptor is *always* a subjective judgement...
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The real problem is that most people want to forget where the term "it looks like crap" came from in order to seem "open-minded" to others.
"Crap" as in actual fecal matter, is universally unappealing. Just because some mentally ill people admire fecal matter doesn't make it beautiful.
So yes, that's one reason there is an absolute measure of beauty.