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Why do people hate on android
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I have owned multiple iOS and android devices including the first iPhone and first g1 android devices. And currently own the iPhone 4s. Just sold my galaxy nexus LTE cause it was driving me crazy. (Samsung has horrible CDMA antenna
So I love both android and iOS. Don't get me wrong. But in the past year alone I've gone with a my touch 4g, galaxy s vibrant, S2, atrix, and now the gnex. All those phones have pros and cons. Yes I have an expensive habit. Always buying and reselling.
So there is no hate on my part. I just wished apple and google would design the perfect device. The 4S is the most solid iPhone device to date. The iphone 4 drove me crazy with its sensor issue The sensor defect in my opinion was a far bigger issue than antenna gate Random handups etc cause of the sesor activating. Just the screen getting too small for me.
I love the atrix RF and 4 inch screen. Just hated the washed out screen pentile quality. The my touch was good but random reboots annoyed the heck out of me. S2 would have been great if resolution was better on 4.3 inch screen. 4.3 a little too bug for me. The gnex was too long for me and the speakers sucked. Screen gorgeous despite pentile. But the killer was the poor antenna design by Samsung on CDMA galaxy nexus.
See. I find fault in both iPhone and android. iPhone with 4 inch screen would be perfect. Maybe S3 will be perfect android device. I pray it's not 4.8 inches.
So I love both android and iOS. Don't get me wrong. But in the past year alone I've gone with a my touch 4g, galaxy s vibrant, S2, atrix, and now the gnex. All those phones have pros and cons. Yes I have an expensive habit. Always buying and reselling.
So there is no hate on my part. I just wished apple and google would design the perfect device. The 4S is the most solid iPhone device to date. The iphone 4 drove me crazy with its sensor issue The sensor defect in my opinion was a far bigger issue than antenna gate Random handups etc cause of the sesor activating. Just the screen getting too small for me.
I love the atrix RF and 4 inch screen. Just hated the washed out screen pentile quality. The my touch was good but random reboots annoyed the heck out of me. S2 would have been great if resolution was better on 4.3 inch screen. 4.3 a little too bug for me. The gnex was too long for me and the speakers sucked. Screen gorgeous despite pentile. But the killer was the poor antenna design by Samsung on CDMA galaxy nexus.
See. I find fault in both iPhone and android. iPhone with 4 inch screen would be perfect. Maybe S3 will be perfect android device. I pray it's not 4.8 inches.
Didn't say you were trolling simply that there IS no point to these types of threads but to piss people off and have people flex their cyber muscles. You could have done a search and been pointed towards tons of threads asking/discussing the same question. You asked why people hate on android and I gave you the answer as it pertains to those types of threads being on MR.
Sad history of support
http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support
Hypocrisy
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/04/04/hypocrisy
etc.
Exactly.
http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support
Hypocrisy
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/04/04/hypocrisy
etc.
Exactly.
My post here says it all...
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=14668883&posted=1#post14668883
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=14668883&posted=1#post14668883
Rather than pointing out all the things that caused me to switch to iOS after 6 Android phones in 3 years, I will list what Google, the manufacturers and carriers can do to win some of us back.
First and foremost, fix the fragmentation bullish*t already, its been FAR too long. Google announced a year ago that they partnered with Samsung, HTC, Motorola and LG as well as the 4 major carriers to guarantee support of phones for at least 18 months and they were supposed to set a timeframe for the carriers to release the new OS. Well here we are a year later, ICS has been out for 5 months...where is it? Only 3% of Android phones are running it, pathetic. Just fix it. Get every phone within the last year updated to ICS before your greedy asses release another handset to turn a profit. Require all carriers to update existing phones to the new OS within 60 days, thats reasonable.
Next, and I know this is going to rile up the Fandroids and have them crying about too much control but Google needs to crack down on the market. Require apps to be tested and then approved before they can be uploaded to the market/store. Anyone can created an app and throw it in the store, many are poorly written which lead to battery drain and more malicious ones are turning up. Look thru the store and read the comments, you will see comments about an app not working with certain phones but other phones run it just fine. Moderate it and clean it up.
Thats a good start...
First and foremost, fix the fragmentation bullish*t already, its been FAR too long. Google announced a year ago that they partnered with Samsung, HTC, Motorola and LG as well as the 4 major carriers to guarantee support of phones for at least 18 months and they were supposed to set a timeframe for the carriers to release the new OS. Well here we are a year later, ICS has been out for 5 months...where is it? Only 3% of Android phones are running it, pathetic. Just fix it. Get every phone within the last year updated to ICS before your greedy asses release another handset to turn a profit. Require all carriers to update existing phones to the new OS within 60 days, thats reasonable.
Next, and I know this is going to rile up the Fandroids and have them crying about too much control but Google needs to crack down on the market. Require apps to be tested and then approved before they can be uploaded to the market/store. Anyone can created an app and throw it in the store, many are poorly written which lead to battery drain and more malicious ones are turning up. Look thru the store and read the comments, you will see comments about an app not working with certain phones but other phones run it just fine. Moderate it and clean it up.
Thats a good start...
This. I choose iOS because it works for me, and because of that people say i'm a fanboy. Can people just get over it and just use what works for you and move on.
This has to do with the fragmentation many people claim doesn't exist (even though it does in spades).
Basically the game has to be tested for all of the major hardware configurations out there. Popcap can't just release it like they do on iOS and know it'll work on the hardware.
Although ICS is a single OS, the sheer amount of hardware that can run it is where the fragmentation lies and is why games take much longer to make on Android vs iOS.
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This.
Because there are big faults with Android/Android phones. Also, people may have had bad experiences. (I've had multiple)
Not saying there aren't faults with the iPhone. I'm also not saying the iPhone is the "best." Just stating why Android gets hate.
I think people are too quick to jump on the "Troll!" bandwagon. Is it not believable that the OP may have just wanted to know why people hate on Android? Maybe he's just curious. Or maybe he's thinking about buying one. We don't want to jump to conclusions.
Not saying there aren't faults with the iPhone. I'm also not saying the iPhone is the "best." Just stating why Android gets hate.
I think people are too quick to jump on the "Troll!" bandwagon. Is it not believable that the OP may have just wanted to know why people hate on Android? Maybe he's just curious. Or maybe he's thinking about buying one. We don't want to jump to conclusions.
Would you recommend a galaxy nexus or galaxy s2? because I dont know if touchwiz makes up for no ice cream sandwich update in NZ right now or should I just get a Gnexus imported? if you reply i will be grateful
Apparently the HTC One X (coming to Telecom on 26/4) is pretty good. I know that doesn't answer your explicit question but it's another option
Apparently the HTC One X (coming to Telecom on 26/4) is pretty good. I know that doesn't answer your explicit question but it's another option
Or he could wait for the Galaxy S III. Which should hopefully be out soon.
Samsung is a beast. Waiting might be a good idea
Why do *I* hate android? (well, hate is a strong word, i just wouldn't buy one)
- i've yet to find a handset that feels as well made as my iphone(s)
- I take spec-sheets with a pinch of salt - because much of android is java/javascript and not native code, cpu spec improvement doesn't necessarily mean faster than iphone
- having been in the PC industry since the late 80s, i've seen what allowing any user to install anything can do to the security of your device fleet (if you are the person responsible for supporting them, its a pain)
- the iphone does what i want it to do
- the fragmentation, I believe will be a problem - already developers are complaining about the number of devices they need to test on. as a hobby developer myself, the ability to test on a handful of devices to ensure my app works is attractive
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and yes, the iphone has faults/trade-offs. The faults or trade-offs the iphone makes are preferable to those I see with android. for me.
I can get any phone i want to evaluate for work (for free), and its an iphone that I use day to day.
- i've yet to find a handset that feels as well made as my iphone(s)
- I take spec-sheets with a pinch of salt - because much of android is java/javascript and not native code, cpu spec improvement doesn't necessarily mean faster than iphone
- having been in the PC industry since the late 80s, i've seen what allowing any user to install anything can do to the security of your device fleet (if you are the person responsible for supporting them, its a pain)
- the iphone does what i want it to do
- the fragmentation, I believe will be a problem - already developers are complaining about the number of devices they need to test on. as a hobby developer myself, the ability to test on a handful of devices to ensure my app works is attractive
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and yes, the iphone has faults/trade-offs. The faults or trade-offs the iphone makes are preferable to those I see with android. for me.
I can get any phone i want to evaluate for work (for free), and its an iphone that I use day to day.
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Thank you for believing this was a legit question,It is in fact.
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Apparently the HTC One X (coming to Telecom on 26/4) is pretty good. I know that doesn't answer your explicit question but it's another option
Actually I wanted either the "pure" android experience or touchwiz because my friends s2(obviously) has touch wiz and I have grown used to it
.So I might as well wait for the galaxy nexus or the s3 in NZ----------
Apparently the HTC One X (coming to Telecom on 26/4) is pretty good. I know that doesn't answer your explicit question but it's another option
Actually I wanted either the "pure" android experience or touchwiz because my friends s2(obviously) has touch wiz and I have grown used to it
.So I might as well wait for the galaxy nexus or the s3 in NZYou probably read/saw this and started another useless thread [ trolling ] here...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57409388-94/iphone-users-android-is-ruining-our-instagram-club/
Actually I have never read that I dont read cnet...You probably read/saw this and started another useless thread [ trolling ] here...
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57409388-94/iphone-users-android-is-ruining-our-instagram-club/
I hate Android for a few reasons:
1) You are always outdated. You get a brand new phone for 200$ and locked in a 2 years contract and guess what? 2 months after, a new and better phone is out. You can never have the best device, there is always one that get better after a really short period.
2) The way that they are working with the software is unacceptable. Carriers and OEM are ruling the OS. Example: it's pure laziness that Samsung said that the original Galaxy S can't run ICS because they can't put their TouchWiz (the KIRF iOS, you know) one the device. Instead, they will release an ICS KIRF update. Android 4.0 is available since last October and only 2.9% of the devices are running it and is has been a few months. iOS 5.1 got released a shot while ago but it's on more than 70% of the devices. Google is loosing the control of it's own OS and it's fragmented as hell. Another good example, last year's flagship Android phone, the Nexus S, is just starting to get Android 4.0 while everyone was once saying "I'm buying a Nexus S because it's a Google Phone and I'll get Android 4.0 really fast!"... Yeah, right.
3) Then we are at performances and reliability. Is Android reliable? Not at my point of view. It's common to hear some stories about random reboots even on the latest devices (Galaxy Nexus). This is something I've never heard of or seen on iOS and since updates on Android are taking a lifetime to be released, you are alone with your problems for a while. Then, performances wise, it's not quite better. My dualcore 800mhz iPhone 4S is easily crushing the Samsung Galaxy S II and every other Android flagship devices (we'll have to see with the Tegra 3 and the S4 though).
So, that's what I'm thinking about Android.
1) You are always outdated. You get a brand new phone for 200$ and locked in a 2 years contract and guess what? 2 months after, a new and better phone is out. You can never have the best device, there is always one that get better after a really short period.
2) The way that they are working with the software is unacceptable. Carriers and OEM are ruling the OS. Example: it's pure laziness that Samsung said that the original Galaxy S can't run ICS because they can't put their TouchWiz (the KIRF iOS, you know) one the device. Instead, they will release an ICS KIRF update. Android 4.0 is available since last October and only 2.9% of the devices are running it and is has been a few months. iOS 5.1 got released a shot while ago but it's on more than 70% of the devices. Google is loosing the control of it's own OS and it's fragmented as hell. Another good example, last year's flagship Android phone, the Nexus S, is just starting to get Android 4.0 while everyone was once saying "I'm buying a Nexus S because it's a Google Phone and I'll get Android 4.0 really fast!"... Yeah, right.
3) Then we are at performances and reliability. Is Android reliable? Not at my point of view. It's common to hear some stories about random reboots even on the latest devices (Galaxy Nexus). This is something I've never heard of or seen on iOS and since updates on Android are taking a lifetime to be released, you are alone with your problems for a while. Then, performances wise, it's not quite better. My dualcore 800mhz iPhone 4S is easily crushing the Samsung Galaxy S II and every other Android flagship devices (we'll have to see with the Tegra 3 and the S4 though).
So, that's what I'm thinking about Android.
When it comes to games, I've heard that because some GPUs have features that others don't - and somehow with Android you're kinda forced to program more specifically. That makes things frustrating for the devs because again - some GPUs support things and others have to have it done a different way.
Is that true?
Most of the time I hear people on here talk about fragmentation they explain it by going into different screen sizes, hardware keyboards, and stuff like HTC sense and Samsung touchwiz, and how the bundled programs vary by model and carrier. Really now? That's not even a problem.
The more accustomed I get to MS' Windows Phone and Windows 8, the more I dislike them.
