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aethelbert

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I don't understand why people are giving their money away to Microsoft when there are equal or better alternatives out in the market. Each and every one of you who has a 360 here is guilty of financing Microsoft.
While I don't have one nor do I want anything in that category, why does that make someone "guilty?" You make it seem a crime. I honestly cannot speak too highly of Apple's products, either...
 

Melrose

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You contradict yourself. If Windows Me is not a bad OS, then why does it may no sense to use it?

WIN! Good call.. Although, even with such Segal-movie-plot-thin logic, I have to agree that WinMe really was that bad.

TSE: OSX cannot be even remotely related to any 'logical' equation of operating systems. And it is entirely in your own opinion that Windows is not a bad OS... I could offer just as sound an argument otherwise, but again, it would be my opinion.
 

DiamondMac

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Well, everything you said about the Xbox applies to Windows, but that doesn't make Windows an excellent OS just like how it doesn't mean Xbox is an excellent gaming machine.
That is your opinion

The fact that the 360 sales are solid, XBox Live gets rave reviews, and games on the 360 are getting great reviews says something otherwise

On the whole, I would rather play on the PS3 and use the Blu-Ray but I also love the 360.
 

AppleMacTheBest

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That is your opinion

The fact that the 360 sales are solid, XBox Live gets rave reviews, and games on the 360 are getting great reviews says something otherwise

On the whole, I would rather play on the PS3 and use the Blu-Ray but I also love the 360.

Opinions have to be consistent across the board, otherwise you're an hypocrite.

Let's see Windows sales are solid, Software and Games for Windows gets rave reviews and Windows has extensible online live support.

Which means either Xbox and Windows are excellent products, or both mediocre.

Since we've already established that Windows is a mediocre product at best, it follows that the Xbox is also mediocre. The various RROD problems justify this.

Just think of Xbox as the PC and PS3 as the Mac. Just because PC has more sales, doesn't mean it's better than Mac. PS3 is more expensive but has better hardware and far more reliable than the error prone Xbox.
 

AppleMacTheBest

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Or Windows is mediocre and the 360 isn't

I am not sure why you refuse to say they aren't the same thing other than just being blind to hating anything Microsoft.

360 is plagued by the same problems that the PCs and Windows is plagued with. How can you even defend Microsoft?
 

AppleMacTheBest

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How can it be a good product when 1 in 3 fails from RROD. By buying such substandard product, you're financing Microsoft and their attempts to stop the growth of Mac and OSX.

If you want Apple to prosper, you have to hit MS where it hurts most. Don't buy their products.
 

AppleMacTheBest

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Let me ask you something.

Xbox 360 suffer from the same problems that PCs and Windows suffer and yet in your case, Windows is a mediocre product but Xbox 360 is an excellent product? I don't understand the logic here.
 

dukebound85

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How can it be a good product when 1 in 3 fails from RROD. By buying such substandard product, you're financing Microsoft and their attempts to stop the growth of Mac and OSX.

If you want Apple to prosper, you have to hit MS where it hurts most. Don't buy their products.

the 360 has the best games out of the 3 imo

seriously, why the ms hate? i hope MS prospers
 

DiamondMac

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By buying such substandard product, you're financing Microsoft and their attempts to stop the growth of Mac and OSX.

If you want Apple to prosper, you have to hit MS where it hurts most. Don't buy their products.

When they make a product worth buying, I will continue to buy their products.

Things like the 360 and Office are Microsoft products that I use quite a bit because they are worth the money.

I actually have no problem supporting Microsoft (even though the MAJORITY of my products are Apple) because I believe the best is brought out in Apple when Microsoft is breathing down their necks. Competition brings out the best in both companies and WE the consumer end up winning.

The RROD was a very bad problem for the 360 but I have never gotten 1 RROD and even those getting them seem to not mind too much as they keep playing the system as seen by the HUGE numbers in XBox Live
 

AppleMacTheBest

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If people are willing to overlook such major flaws in the 360, now wonder people are willing to overlook flaws in Windows. I've lost faith in humanity.
 

aethelbert

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Jun 1, 2007
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How can it be a good product when 1 in 3 fails from RROD. By buying such substandard product, you're financing Microsoft and their attempts to stop the growth of Mac and OSX.

If you want Apple to prosper, you have to hit MS where it hurts most. Don't buy their products.
Two different product categories. If the 360 is the superior product, then people should be able to buy it. I didn't know that I'm not allowed overlap in my preferences for computer companies.
 

AppleMacTheBest

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Two different product categories. If the 360 is the superior product, then people should be able to buy it. I didn't know that I'm not allowed overlap in my preferences for computer companies.

That's the thing. 360 is NOT superior. Like I said MS makes crappy software and crappier hardware. The 360 has a higher failure rate than Windows, which is an achievement in itself. PC's sell more but they're not better than Macs. Xboxes sell more but they're not better than the alternatives.

Can you imagine Windows having the failure rate of the 360. Do you think people would tolerate that? That's why I am surprised why people tolerate the failings of 360.

PS3 is the mac of the console world. far better hardware and design, very reliable and better value for money.
 

dukebound85

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That's the thing. 360 is NOT superior. Like I said MS makes crappy software and crappier hardware. The 360 has a higher failure rate than Windows, which is an achievement in itself. PC's sell more but they're not better than Macs. Xboxes sell more but they're not better than the alternatives.

Can you imagine Windows having the failure rate of the 360. Do you think people would tolerate that? That's why I am surprised why people tolerate the failings of 360.

PS3 is the mac of the console world. far better hardware and design, very reliable and better value for money.

says you..... and frankly your opinion doesnt hold the most weight with me. the 360 is a cooler console and i have a ps3 as well so yea, i think i know what im talking about
 

AppleMacTheBest

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Too bad that's completely subjective, thus making your aforesaid argument moot.

Failure rates are not subjective. MS makes shoddy hardware and people still keep buying them, even people who are deeply critical of Windows. That was the whole point of this thread.

Why do people still keep buying MS? Zune was a joke. Xbox RRODs all the time. Windows is a nightmare. And yet people still keep on going back to MS.
 

aethelbert

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Jun 1, 2007
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Failure rates are not subjective. MS makes shoddy hardware and people still keep buying them, even people who are deeply critical of Windows.
If failure rates are the only factor in something's superiority over something else, then I guess I'd be picking up a pocketwatch rather than a computer any day.

Let's just face it... it's alright and perfectly acceptable to not be an Apple fanboy and bow down to every product that they release...
 

AppleMacTheBest

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then dont buy it. why do you keep tying this to windows, they arent even aimed at the same audience....

I am tying this to Windows because as a mac user we're very critical of Windows and yet you guys are perfectly happy to use a product from MS that has a higher failure rate than Windows.
 
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