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numbersyx

macrumors 65816
Sep 29, 2006
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This is a silly thread... and who cares about MS hardware - it's a Windows world even for us Mac users...
 

aethelbert

macrumors 601
Jun 1, 2007
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Chicago, IL, USA
You're not, but most of us are.
No, the general consensus of respected users on this forum is that Windows is a solid and respectable operating system.
But they're happy to buy 360 when the equivalnt of OSX -> PS3 is available. Make the switch!
Because everyone:
a.) has all that extra money to throw at something which will make little difference
b.) wants to learn something completely foreign
c.) cares

...
 

AppleMacTheBest

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Feb 7, 2009
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who effing cares, windows and a 360 serve entirely differnt purposes

its all about the games and to many, the 360 is the best

windows that the 360 are both platforms to run your games and apps.

you would not tolerate a 1 in 3 failure rate of windows.

you should not tolerate a 1 in 3 failure rate of Xbox.
 

NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
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windows that the 360 are both platforms to run your games and apps.

you would not tolerate a 1 in 3 failure rate of windows.

you should not tolerate a 1 in 3 failure rate of Xbox.

And if your xbox is among the 2/3 that didnt fail? (not to mention that those issues are resolved now anyway with the Jasper release)
 

AppleMacTheBest

macrumors member
Original poster
Feb 7, 2009
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And if your xbox is among the 2/3 that didnt fail? (not to mention that those issues are resolved now anyway with the Jasper release)

I am not concerned about those 2/3. The whole point of this thread is to understand why the peop;e in the 1/3 still buy MS after being burned. It seems they never learn from their mistakes.
 

NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
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I am not concerned about those 2/3. The whole point of this thread is to understand why the peop;e in the 1/3 still buy MS after being burned. It seems they never learn from their mistakes.

Burned by the extended 2 year warranty that covers the Red Rings of Death specifically? Oh yea, I was SOOOO pissed when they promptly repaired my 360, never to have the problem again:rolleyes:

Do I like MS for OS's? HELL no, but they do make some quality products elsewhere.
 

Rodimus Prime

macrumors G4
Oct 9, 2006
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Wow at first I was going to give AppleMacTheBest the benfit of the doute but now he is nothing less than a troll.

A troll on an apple forum bashing Microsoft. That is a new one but a troll is a troll.

AppleMacTheBest you are an example of why people thing so poorly of apple fans. You spit out crap and lies that are not true and make us all look bad. When people think of apple they think of people like you.
 

63dot

macrumors 603
Jun 12, 2006
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norcal
If you want Apple to prosper, you have to hit MS where it hurts most. Don't buy their products.

I pretty much do OK on my macs w/o any MS products for two out of the three machines I have. On my rev. a iBook, I use the bundled software which came with Explorer which I don't use. On my dual Power Mac, besides the software it came with, I have Adobe stuff.

But my Mac mini, which I have to use for online classes, have assignments that need the use of Excel and Word so I have MS Office for Mac on that machine. But when I took classes in person and had to turn in papers, I used Clarisworks and Appleworks for everything.

If the current online class did not require those two Microsoft programs, I would not have bought Microsoft Office for Mac.

If in the future when I get a new Mac, if there is no need for MS Office, I simply won't buy it since I could use my money better elsewhere. I think Office is too bulky and not easy to use like every other word processor I have used in its place. My first reservations against MS was that I hated the company, but these days, I am not so angry at them anymore, but if I don't need to buy their stuff, I am that much better off.

I do admit to liking MS Flight Simulator quite a bit back in the day.
 

Syrus28

macrumors 6502a
Feb 1, 2008
553
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Peoria, AZ
Honestly, you sound like you're 12.

AppleMacTheBest said:
If people are willing to overlook such major flaws in the 360, now wonder people are willing to overlook flaws in Windows. I've lost faith in humanity.

AppleMacTheBest said:
How can it be a good product when 1 in 3 fails from RROD. By buying such substandard product, you're financing Microsoft and their attempts to stop the growth of Mac and OSX.

If you want Apple to prosper, you have to hit MS where it hurts most. Don't buy their products.

AppleMacTheBest said:
I am tying this to Windows because as a mac user we're very critical of Windows and yet you guys are perfectly happy to use a product from MS that has a higher failure rate than Windows.

Microsoft is a very successful company that makes Operating Systems, Office Suites, Gaming Consoles, and a Media player and your acting like their the plague of the world. There are a lot more important things in the world than wasting your time hating a company that doesn't even know you exist.

People have preferences, and your too ignorant to understand that everyone in the world isn't like you (and thank god they aren't). So what if people prefer Windows to Mac? What does that mean to you? What harm has me purchasing a Xbox and using a PC done to you? None.

I owned a Zune 30, currently own an Xbox 360 and iPhone, and dual-boot my MacBook with Windows 7, and look - the world is still standing. If you believe Microsoft is fundamentally flawed in the way they develop their products, then don't buy them. But don't try to sit here and act like they and the people that choose to support them are Satan.
 

63dot

macrumors 603
Jun 12, 2006
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norcal
The entire development team just got laid off:(

It's so ironic that one of the few things I do like about the company ends up getting canned. I think MS is so huge and successful that they probably have a small amount of importance they put to furthering Flight Simulator.

I considered buying Age of Empires but I never got that title but I have heard so many good things about it.
 

NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
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It's so ironic that one of the few things I do like about the company ends up getting canned. I think MS is so huge and successful that they probably have a small amount of importance they put to furthering Flight Simulator.

I considered buying Age of Empires but I never got that title but I have heard so many good things about it.
The flight team was canned as part of the massive lay offs due to the status of the economy and how its effecting MS.
 

Syrus28

macrumors 6502a
Feb 1, 2008
553
0
Peoria, AZ
Let me ask you something.

Xbox 360 suffer from the same problems that PCs and Windows suffer and yet in your case, Windows is a mediocre product but Xbox 360 is an excellent product? I don't understand the logic here.
The Xbox 360 is a fine product, and I want to know where you got your 1/3 failure rate. Microsoft is the only one who knows, and since they haven't spoken, your entire point is invalid. However, they have acknowledged there is a problem, that's why they extended the warranty for ALL Xbox 360's to 3 years.

Windows is perfectly fine. However, it does much a much stronger competitor than the Xbox does (in my opinion). Mediocre and excellent are fully objective terms and can only be applied when referenced to something else. Windows is mediocre. Compared to What? Mac OS X? Fine, that's your opinion. Xbox is excellent? Compared to What? The PS3? Again, that's an opinion.
 

NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
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The Xbox 360 is a fine product, and I want to know where you got your 1/3 failure rate. Microsoft is the only one who knows, and since they haven't spoken, your entire point is invalid. However, they have acknowledged there is a problem, that's why they extended the warranty for ALL Xbox 360's to 3 years.

There have been many articles laying claim that it was indeed near 1/3
 

Syrus28

macrumors 6502a
Feb 1, 2008
553
0
Peoria, AZ
The flight team was canned as part of the massive lay offs due to the status of the economy and how its effecting MS.

I wouldn't the economy the problem. Microsoft is enormously profitable. It's that the R&D costs of the Entertainment and Devices Division has skyrocketed but it's profitability (so far) is minimal.

spending.jpg
 

NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
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I wouldn't the economy the problem. Microsoft is enormously profitable. It's that the R&D costs of the Entertainment and Devices Division has skyrocketed but it's profitability (so far) is minimal.

spending.jpg

What I meant is that when economic woes are possible, companies cut as many "expendable" people as possible. No they are not in financial trouble, but yes it was a direct result of the economy. Its just sad to see anyone lose their job.
 

Syrus28

macrumors 6502a
Feb 1, 2008
553
0
Peoria, AZ
There have been many articles laying claim that it was indeed near 1/3

Yes, but what are their sources? It's very easy to speculate (as we should known on MacRumors) but there are many things on the internet that aren't true. The failure rate could very well be 1/3 but unless Microsoft stated it, we know just as much as the people stating such things.
 

NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
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Yes, but what are their sources? It's very easy to speculate (as we should known on MacRumors) but there are many things on the internet that aren't true. The failure rate could very well be 1/3 but unless Microsoft stated it, we know just as much as the people stating such things.

Retailers were reporting the 1/3 number. Who would know better than the guys having to deal with returns?

Dont get me wrong, i love my 360, i just like to keep threads honest.
 

Syrus28

macrumors 6502a
Feb 1, 2008
553
0
Peoria, AZ
Retailers were reporting the 1/3 number. Who would know better than the guys having to deal with returns?

Dont get me wrong, i love my 360, i just like to keep threads honest.
That's my point. We have Microsoft claiming 3-5% and anonymous retail managers claiming anything form 16.5% to 33% to 65%, etc.

Now, do we believe a Gamestop Manager, or Microsoft?
 

NT1440

macrumors Pentium
May 18, 2008
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That's my point. We have Microsoft claiming 3-5% and anonymous retail managers claiming anything form 16.5% to 33% to 65%, etc.

They arent anonymous. And if it was actually 3-5% they wouldnt have sunk the TWO BILLION dollars into the warranty programs that they had to.
 
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