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theapplefanboyj

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I just find it hilarious when some apple fanboys say android is so laggy. For goodness sake I mean its not lucky unless you're using a skin like touchwiz on top and even then Samsung has really It a bit lighter so why are you doing this? It's not fair to us Android uses to have to listen to this. Even if you hate the elements of a skin for example TouchWiz, Android is a platform for developers. Rooted Android and installing something like cyanogen mod can really help you.

I don't want hate on this topic from people saying that i'm biased towards android. To be honest i have and used both operating systems and, they both have good and bad parts of the operating system. To be honest, it's kind of being offensive to others because they choose to go for android or ios and some of the other fanboys from the other side just like you hate. I know the android has been leggy in the past. But that's the past! Everything has changed. Android has changed , iOS has changed, heck - even Windows Phone has changed! So just no point to be looking back in the past, don't hate. No, please don't be renting about how stupid this topic is whether you agree or disagree with with it.
 

theapplefanboyj

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You sound like one of those Android fanboy that hates Apple for no reason.
I don't hate apple. I just figured that we should probably stop hating android because it's apparently too laggy. I have both android and Ios and use both everyday.
 

T5BRICK

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Just don't take it personally. I really do like Android post Jellybean, but I dislike Samsung and Touchwiz.
 

Lux12

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If anything, Apple gets more hate. Android fanboys are worse from what I've seen.
 

geoff5093

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As you said, there are pros and cons to both. Android lets you do a lot more, but on the flip side you need much higher specs for similar performance, and it does have more UI lag simply due to Android vs iOS, regardless of hardware. If iOS had true multitasking and the features of Android it would lag as well, so it comes down to if you want more features, or a better UI experience.

A lot of the laggy Android stigma is from years ago, back in the Gingerbread days, but in the last few years Android has come a LONG way, both in performance and UI. While iOS has been relatively the same.
 

lordofthereef

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My 6 Plus (with out of the box settings) has about as much lag as any Android I have ever used (and that's to say actually quite a lot lol).
 

Bobby Corwen

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Every time I see someone say there is no difference between iOS and Android touch response, my immediate reaction is to throw the persons ability to perceive details in general into question.
 

Bahroo

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Love my 6 Plus, it is absolutely butter smooth and the smoothest iPhone I have ever owned right with the 5S

I like Android too, 4.4 was a good step in right direction in terms of fluidness and UI responsenivess, Lollipop is a big upgrade to performance and stability
 

Bobby Corwen

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My 6 Plus (with out of the box settings) has about as much lag as any Android I have ever used (and that's to say actually quite a lot lol).

Why haven't you taken it back to the store and exchanged it for one that works like the rest of em if you have a messed up one?
 

SomeGuyDude

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Why haven't you taken it back to the store and exchanged it for one that works like the rest of em if you have a messed up one?

They're equal in most regards. Lag exists, it's just a fact of life.

In all honesty, I would still be on Android if iOS weren't so universally compatible with pretty much every gadget and doo-dad. TBH both platforms, for a casual end user, are equal, just different. You can easily do the same stuff with the phone itself, it just comes down to which workflow you prefer and how many accessories and how much gadget integration you need.
 

lordofthereef

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Why haven't you taken it back to the store and exchanged it for one that works like the rest of em if you have a messed up one?

It's not messed up. It's just like like basically every single one I have ever seen, including store displays. It simply doesn't like spotlight search with transparencies up. The crashes that I have had are not nearly reproducible enough for an Apple store employee to be willing to just swap the phone. Part of it likely has to do with app optimizations as well. Point still stands though, it's as laggy as any Android device I have used.

In short, I am simply not convinced at all that swapping the device would improve my experience one bit.
 

Bobby Corwen

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They're equal in most regards. Lag exists, it's just a fact of life.

In all honesty, I would still be on Android if iOS weren't so universally compatible with pretty much every gadget and doo-dad. TBH both platforms, for a casual end user, are equal, just different. You can easily do the same stuff with the phone itself, it just comes down to which workflow you prefer and how many accessories and how much gadget integration you need.

Its not LAG

Its ROUGHNESS

It can be less smooth without having full on glitches like in the olden days.

I think people think because it was a stigma of being way worse in the past, and it made some progress, that now its just as buttery smooth as iOS has been all of a sudden. Its not.

Its not as bad, but its still not the same as iOS. Its not so smooth that it creates that magical illusion feeling.
 

Hankster

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Jan 30, 2008
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I don't hate apple. I just figured that we should probably stop hating android because it's apparently too laggy. I have both android and Ios and use both everyday.

Nice of you to assume the only reason people dislike Android is because of the lag. Did it ever occur to you that people (many people) dislike Android because the operating system does not work well for them? I have used Android and I don't care for it, and I majored in IT and worked in the field for over eight years. I hated Apple, that was until I tried the MacBook and realized it was a better product than any PC.

Back to the topic. Every person has a right to like and dislike any device. Why do you care? Apple devices and Android devices are very different in many ways. Why can't a person like one and dislike another?

Seems you are the one making an issue of it.
 

lordofthereef

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Its not LAG

Its ROUGHNESS

It can be less smooth without having full on glitches like in the olden days.

I think people think because it was a stigma of being way worse in the past, and it made some progress, that now its just as buttery smooth as iOS has been all of a sudden. Its not.

Its not as bad, but its still not the same as iOS. Its not so smooth that it creates that magical illusion feeling.

I disagree with everything said here.

Semantics aside, stock jellybean has been as buttery for me as iOS was on my 5S. I haven't been bothering with anything but stock for over a year now, so I can't comment on the things other companies add to Android.

At the end of the day, stock Android isn't something that most people experience, because it's not what is marketed heavily. And the stigma is completely fair. Most users do experience "roughness" with their Android devices. All they know is that their SGS runs Android. The other factors simply don't matter to most. And so, Android is rough.
 

Bobby Corwen

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It's not messed up. It's just like like basically every single one I have ever seen, including store displays. It simply doesn't like spotlight search with transparencies up. The crashes that I have had are not nearly reproducible enough for an Apple store employee to be willing to just swap the phone. Part of it likely has to do with app optimizations as well. Point still stands though, it's as laggy as any Android device I have used.

In short, I am simply not convinced at all that swapping the device would improve my experience one bit.

I have never seen glitches on store displays either.

I just now pulled down Spotlight on mine and it was buttery smooth.

So mine works, and yours doesn't, so they are not behaving the same. How do you not conclude that something is wrong with yours? If it were a persistent OS or hardware issue, it would be in all of them. Including mine.

So why is yours not working like mine? Either you are being dishonest, or you have a faulty unit. (Its telling that you are not committed enough to get it exchanged yet you go on like the phone is a failure on a mass scale)

Furthermore, a new OS just came out with a whole new paradigm of features and changes and that is reasonable to expect they are being optimized as we go.

You talk as if the hardware can't handle it. Clearly it can, as is exemplified by the majority who have had a smooth experience.

So you're essentially saying that a malfunctioning iPhone works similar to a normal working Android?

Ok.
 

lordofthereef

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Nice of you to assume the only reason people dislike Android is because of the lag.

To be fair, it is the number one complaint that comes up on forums. "Fragmentation" used to be popular arsenal too, though that has died down some.

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I have never seen glitches on store displays either.

I just now pulled down Spotlight on mine and it was buttery smooth.

So mine works, and yours doesn't, so they are not behaving the same. How do you not conclude that something is wrong with yours? If it were a persistent OS or hardware issue, it would be in all of them. Including mine.

So why is yours not working like mine? Either you are being dishonest, or you have a faulty unit. (Its telling that you are not committed enough to get it exchanged yet you go on like the phone is a failure on a mass scale)

Furthermore, a new OS just came out with a whole new paradigm of features and changes and that is reasonable to expect they are being optimized as we go.

You talk as if the hardware can't handle it. Clearly it can, as is exemplified by the majority who have had a smooth experience.

So you're essentially saying that a malfunctioning iPhone works similar to a normal working Android?

Ok.

When I swap into landscape mode, spotlight lags (or it's rought or choppy or whatever you prefer). There are videos of this too. I have tried it on a few store displays.

Playing a movie in Safari and swapping to landscape also causes a stutter. I can reproduce this on store displays too. Every time. Playing the same video in another browser (specifically Mercury) does not do this. Obviously this isn't something I can test on a store display, and I am the only person I personally know with a plus. I think that is decent evidence that, at the very least, that one quirk is software related, not hardware.

I don't believe my phone is faulty. I am basing this on my own personal experiences with quite a few devices now (store displays). I am not saying your experiences are wrong or you are lying, but I am saying that my personal experiences are just that, my personal experiences. They are enough for me to whole heartedly believe that the issues I have seen are not related to a fualty device. I have no reason to be dishonest. I tell it like I see it. You can take my word for it, or you can not, it's really nothing to me either way.

You do make a great point, though I don;t know why you made it. Yes, it is reasonable to expect with a new OS that there may be quirks. I am expecting that and it is a valid reason for not expecting Apple to just hand me a new device, I would think.

On your last point, you keep mentioning my phone is malfunctioning. I state that I don;t believe it is. So no. I am not at all saying that "a malfunctioning iPhone is the same as a normally working Android".
 
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Bobby Corwen

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I disagree with everything said here.

Semantics aside, stock jellybean has been as buttery for me as iOS was on my 5S. I haven't been bothering with anything but stock for over a year now, so I can't comment on the things other companies add to Android.

At the end of the day, stock Android isn't something that most people experience, because it's not what is marketed heavily. And the stigma is completely fair. Most users do experience "roughness" with their Android devices. All they know is that their SGS runs Android. The other factors simply don't matter to most. And so, Android is rough.

I don't think you understand what "buttery" means...
 

cababah

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In my experience, Android people hate more on Apple vs the other way around. Maybe it is rooted in insecurity? (as ridiculous as that sounds)

See Xbox vs Playstation, Ford vs Chevy, Coke vs Pepsi, etc for more examples of how product rivalries work.

The bottom line is that they both are very good offerings and the fierce competition yields the best products for us customers.
 
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