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But You get what you pay for.

Take for example your note 9.
You got for what 300 dollars, it doesn’t support Dolby vision on Netflix, or record 4K at 60fps....well without the 5 min cap.

You think you got a deal, But it wasn’t worth much to begin with.

Again you get what you pay for.

so you think dolby vision/record 4k for hours is more important than better battery, brighter display, much better ram management, actual stereo speakers (you must love recording your awesome 4k videos on those mono speakers lol), multi window support, choice of iris or fingerprint unlock, better camera, faster 4g?

if so then apple has got you brainwashed!
 
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I’m obviously in the minority here where I really don’t care if my iPhone has bezels or not. Some of the arguing here over slightly thicker bezels on one phone over the other is comical.
I don't care if you and me are in the minority. Bezeless (and even worse, curved) displays are not just ugly, they are hard to use and, in many cases, they are not the appropriate for anything but consuming videos. Those weak consumers would buy/believe anything the industry says and then spend all their free time in the forum making excuses for their purchases and trying to make us feel old fashioned and detached. As if we were born yesterday and can't survive going with the unpopular opinion.
 
It does indeed.
The new iPhones x plus just leaked.
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Whatever that is, it looks like something I found at the bottom of my reef tank while doing weekly maintenance. Nothing happening on the Sammy front. Other than fold-able phones.

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This discussion keeps going on? He seems to have gotten his own iPhone X and is so biased towards Apple it hurts, open your eyes to the world of technology and see for yourself how Apple has let themselves go in design and that Samsung has the best looking Smartphone design for years.
There's more out there than overpriced Apple devices that sell you less for more.
PSA: I own a X and I'm not into the "cult".
 
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This discussion keeps going on? He seems to have gotten his own iPhone X and is so biased towards Apple it hurts, open your eyes to the world of technology and see for yourself how Apple has let themselves go in design and that Samsung has the best looking Smartphone design for years.
There's more out there than overpriced Apple devices that sell you less for more.
PSA: I own a X and I'm not into the "cult".

I offered him advice on design by looking at the Oppo Find X. That sleek hidden pop up camera design is really something. A beautiful design all round. However, as the good book says, 'and some fell on stony ground'.
 
Good question. Though, usually threads like this bring out a lot of hostility from both sides...

Short Version: I prefer iOS because I don't have time anymore to spend rooting a phone to get rid of gigs of adware that report my every move, action, choice to random ad servers at home. I like the superior build quality of Apple devices and the fact that out of the box, they run fairly well. I used to be a HUGE Google fan, rooting android phones and very anti-Apple. But when I tried my first iPhone, it changed me completely. That, along with the fact that I met a girl I fell in love with, got married, and started working a job that required more time... Apple devices impressed me for build quality, stability, and apps that worked a heck of a lot better than Android apps. Every year I try out a friend's Android phone for a week just to make sure I'm being fair to both platforms, but I definitely prefer Apple.

That and I've fallen out of favor with Google. I try not to use Google products or Google apps if I can. In this age where privacy is non-existent, I've moved to FastMail, Safari, iCloud, etc... Having actually looked at code in Android roms that were being rooted, seeing what apps like Facebook did back in the day - I value my privacy more these days than I used to.

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Long Version:

I started out with Android with an HTC MyTouch on T-Mobile. Being someone who builds computers and works tech, I quickly got into the Android rooting experience. When I got the Droid 1 I was beta testing roms, installing different roms every week, and spent countless hours on DroidForums helping others root. I was very anti-apple back then, but I had never tried it. Pete's Bugless Beast was my favorite rom on the OG Droid. I went from the Droid 1 to the HTC Thunderbolt (4G LTE) continuing my Android "love" - but rooting was getting more and more difficult.

I went with a coworker to get an iPhone 4s because he was very pro Apple and I wanted to see what it was like. I was VERY impressed by the 4s. Loved the way the phone felt in my hand, how the OS flew, everything was so pleasant to use I actually USED my phone. Apps were so perfect vs Android.

But I lapsed and went back to the Samsung Note 3 because I wanted a bigger phone. However, I was shocked to see the rooting world falling apart. I was part of the group that raised some $36,000? to hire a hacker to crack the locked bootloader so we could root our phones, but Verizon was making it more and more difficult - rom devs bled from Verizon to T-Mobile and eventually disappeared.

So, I went back to an iPhone 5 and stuck with Apple from the 5 to the 6+. The 6+ was the first Apple device I really fell in love with. The size, the battery life, the screen, everything - I loved it. It wasn't until I got the 6s+ that I started becoming anti-Google - their privacy practices and need to sell everything I do out to companies. Android flagship phones are hardly cheaper than iPhones yet they blast a lot of what you do to ad companies.

Now that I'm older, the ability to iMessage from ANY device, answer calls from ANY device, I just love the way text is rendered on a Mac vs Windows. Apps on Android just don't seem as polished as iOS. Airpods on ANY of my apple devices is just astounding. Always on the latest OS (I've bought 4 Samsung devices that were NEVER updated in the years I owned them).

My 8+ has cemented my opinion that I will be sticking with Apple for a long long time. I miss the days of rooting but, I've got more important things going on in my life at the moment.

I agree. I been back and forth several times with the last android phone I owned was a galaxy s5. I prefer iOS though, everything from fonts to the look and how fluid everything runs appeals to me. The applications are always more polished also.
Don't really care about customization it really is overrated feature as well as split screen on a phone. I have a iPad and I rarely if ever use split screen because I'm not trying to sacrifice screen real estate.
The one thing I do like about android phones however is google now. Comes in handy in many situations but of course it also violates your privacy by tapping into your email, etc., something Apple is against.
 
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so you think dolby vision/record 4k for hours is more important than better battery, brighter display, much better ram management, actual stereo speakers (you must love recording your awesome 4k videos on those mono speakers lol), multi window support, choice of iris or fingerprint unlock, better camera, faster 4g?

if so then apple has got you brainwashed!
How does the note 9 have better battery? I haven't seen any real world tests. IOS has always had better battery management than any android i've ever used. Lower mh but longer battery life thus better management. Android goes for much higher mh but doesn't manage it as well as battery performance generally lags ios.
The iphone does have stereo speakers. One top, one bottom. Also auto adjusts the sound depending on how you're holding the phone so left/right channels are always accurate.
IOS does have multi-window support for ipad. No, not on iphone but then the screen is too small for that imo. I never used it when I owned a note.
4G is only so fast. In a lab the qualcomm radio in the verizon/sprint iphone is faster than the intel radio in the at&t/tmobile variant. But in the real world you won't actually notice a difference as LTE isn't as fast as a lab anywhere.

Better camera is debatable. Samsung wins some, iphone wins some. And some come down to personal preference. Samsung photos tend to be over-saturated. But some people like that. In some situations I do too.
In terms of ram management ios is better. Android has virtually no ram management so they throw large amounts of ram at it. For android the apps you have open use a certain amount of ram. When that ram is full apps close to make room for new apps. In ios it dynamically scales the ram used by apps in real time. So every app can stay in memory without having to close. I saw a video awhile back were they dive deep in to the details of it.

iphone has true tone flash and display for more accurate colors, and the ecosystem is 2nd to none, no bloatware and regular updates. Granted you can get a pixel or nexus to solve those last two issues. GPU performance is much faster.
I would agree with you that the note 9 design is overall better. It's a sexy phone. I can't stand the notch on the iphonex or the android phones that are now copying it. IMO samsung has a more visually appealing phone.

At first I didn't dive in to the ios ecosystem. I used an iphone and at the time it was similar to using an android phone. Some differences here or there but nothing big. And then I had enough of google and privacy issues and committed fully to the apple ecosystem. My wife and daughters also got iphones and we've always had ipads. We got ATV's(and i'm a home theater snob) My wife and I got apple watches(watch OS destroys android wear, as ATV destroys android tv which still feels like an after thought to google). Carplay is superior to android auto in my opinion and yes, I use both. At that point everything changed and when people go on and on about the ecosystem I finally understood why. It really sets it apart and makes for a much better user experience. That alone is worth the price of admission.

And the iphone upgrade program has been wonderful and hassle free. I once had to deal with a applecare claim when my daughter dropped her phone and broke the screen and it was a wonderful experience with apple going above and beyond. Those things keep me with apple.
 
I offered him advice on design by looking at the Oppo Find X. That sleek hidden pop up camera design is really something. A beautiful design all round. However, as the good book says, 'and some fell on stony ground'.
The oppo is a sexy phone. No doubt! Though due to the pop camera it's not waterproof. But the overall design is just gorgeous. Oppo is a great company too. I own their UHD 203 player and their support and regular updates have been amazing.
 
How does the note 9 have better battery? I haven't seen any real world tests. IOS has always had better battery management than any android i've ever used. Lower mh but longer battery life thus better management. Android goes for much higher mh but doesn't manage it as well as battery performance generally lags ios.
The iphone does have stereo speakers. One top, one bottom. Also auto adjusts the sound depending on how you're holding the phone so left/right channels are always accurate.
IOS does have multi-window support for ipad. No, not on iphone but then the screen is too small for that imo. I never used it when I owned a note.
4G is only so fast. In a lab the qualcomm radio in the verizon/sprint iphone is faster than the intel radio in the at&t/tmobile variant. But in the real world you won't actually notice a difference as LTE isn't as fast as a lab anywhere.

Better camera is debatable. Samsung wins some, iphone wins some. And some come down to personal preference. Samsung photos tend to be over-saturated. But some people like that. In some situations I do too.
In terms of ram management ios is better. Android has virtually no ram management so they throw large amounts of ram at it. For android the apps you have open use a certain amount of ram. When that ram is full apps close to make room for new apps. In ios it dynamically scales the ram used by apps in real time. So every app can stay in memory without having to close. I saw a video awhile back were they dive deep in to the details of it.

iphone has true tone flash and display for more accurate colors, and the ecosystem is 2nd to none, no bloatware and regular updates. Granted you can get a pixel or nexus to solve those last two issues. GPU performance is much faster.
I would agree with you that the note 9 design is overall better. It's a sexy phone. I can't stand the notch on the iphonex or the android phones that are now copying it. IMO samsung has a more visually appealing phone.

At first I didn't dive in to the ios ecosystem. I used an iphone and at the time it was similar to using an android phone. Some differences here or there but nothing big. And then I had enough of google and privacy issues and committed fully to the apple ecosystem. My wife and daughters also got iphones and we've always had ipads. We got ATV's(and i'm a home theater snob) My wife and I got apple watches(watch OS destroys android wear, as ATV destroys android tv which still feels like an after thought to google). Carplay is superior to android auto in my opinion and yes, I use both. At that point everything changed and when people go on and on about the ecosystem I finally understood why. It really sets it apart and makes for a much better user experience. That alone is worth the price of admission.

And the iphone upgrade program has been wonderful and hassle free. I once had to deal with a applecare claim when my daughter dropped her phone and broke the screen and it was a wonderful experience with apple going above and beyond. Those things keep me with apple.




watch those and tell me which phone lasts longer, has faster 4g, and has MUCH better ram mangement? btw note 9 also has true tone and you can adjust the warmth to your liking. also the iphone x does NOT have stereo recording for its videos. it sounds like **** when you play it back. did you even do any research before typing all that out?
 
Boy, I can’t believe how off-topic we are now from people who prefer iOS, coming to this thread to answer the question posed by thread starter, giving thier opinion. Why they prefer iOS over android?

I find it pathetic, the android owners who dont prefer iOS, that came here to protect android from others opinions and go as low by making fun of those who do prefer iOS. Sad.





 
A huge advantage Apple has over Android vendors is that Apple designs both the software and the hardware. And they work in conjunction with each other to optimize performance. So spec sheet comparison alone isn't the whole story. End user experience is.

Safari is a great example. Open weather underground in Safari and then in Chrome. Doesn't matter if that Chrome is on the iPhone or an Android phone, it's going to be slower opening many of the websites I use regularly. I'd love to use a Moto G6 - affordable, big screen but still narrow enough to be comfortable. But web surfing is just too darn slow. Even my iPhone 6 surfs much faster, with a slower processor. Sigh.

Come to think of it, my iPhone 6 is still as fast as ever and on 10.3.3. But my use is web surfing, texts, email, and occasional pictures. No videos, no games.
 
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watch those and tell me which phone lasts longer, has faster 4g, and has MUCH better ram mangement? btw note 9 also has true tone and you can adjust the warmth to your liking. also the iphone x does NOT have stereo recording for its videos. it sounds like **** when you play it back. did you even do any research before typing all that out?
I didn't say it has stereo recording. I said it had stereo speakers. YOUR post said it didn't have stereo SPEAKERS. FYI, you don't record audio on SPEAKERS genius, you record on a mic.

Your speed test video means nothing. You're comparing last years iphone to this years new samsung. It's a year apart. And it's doing it in a way people don't actually use their phone. Synthetic style tests mean nothing and it's hardly real world. You should know that.

They are also comparing on tmobile which uses the intel radio which I already said performs poorly compared to the qualcomm radio in the other iphone variants and in the note. They should have tested with the verizon or sprint version so you could have a qualcomm vs qualcomm. But even if they did it's still last years qualcomm compared to this years qualcomm. Hardly fair. But we'll see for sure next month. However from what I read all of the next iphones will be using intel chips. The good news is they'll work on both GSM and CDMA networks. The downside is last years Intel radio is poor and we don't know what this years chip will bring.

However, if i'm checking my email and texting, listening to music and watching youtube does getting 70mbs down provide a better experience than 20mbs down? No. Those tasks don't use anywhere near that much bandwidth so it means nothing in the real world. And most people are on wifi at work, home and various stores. It does make a difference on my desktop where I am doing different things like downloading and uploading very large files regularly. Most people don't do that on their phones.

Battery life is really up to how a person uses their phone. ios has phenomenal standby times. Always has. Android can be better with pure mh size when it comes to watching videos for long periods of time. When it comes down to actual daily usage, work, travel, home and the various things that come up an iphone will have more battery life left at the end of the day. And of course this varies by your usage. And since I own both and have had more android phones than iphones this is very much true in my experience. I see the same thing when also comparing to friends notes or pixel 2's. I always have more battery life than them. And again, same applies to my personal usage style with both ios and android.

Yes, you can adjust the warmth. That means nothing. Can the phone auto adjust so the screen colors are accurate for the environment you are in?

iphone still has better ram management. Having more ram is not better management of that ram. It's just more. If you had a note 9 with the same amount of ram as the iphone the test would be different. https://www.androidpit.com/android-vs-ios-ram-management

With my usage style I have never had an android phone that lasted as long or felt as fast as any iphone i've owned. Not one. Not by a long shot.
 
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The sales are low simply because not everyone updates every year and the fact that the Note 9 didn't bring any exciting new features to justify the upgrade from the Note 8/S9.
Lmao. So silly.
Note 9 is NOTHING NEW. It’s a S9+ with a stylus. That you can use to take selfies!!!! Yay.

Samsung cannot innovate and cannot compete with Apple. They should stick to the mid tier market where Huwaei is crushing them.

Btw how many ads do you see for buy a note 9 get one free, or get a tv. S9 sales are tanking too.
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Android definitely has more features, on paper, but it’s defjnitely less usable than iOS and completely lacks integration with other Apple products.
Android is more advanced. Lmao.
Cool app drawer and 10,000 settings = more advanced??
Don’t think so.
 
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Lmao. So silly.
Note 9 is NOTHING NEW. It’s a S9+ with a stylus. That you can use to take selfies!!!! Yay.

Samsung cannot innovate and cannot compete with Apple. They should stick to the mid tier market where Huwaei is crushing them.
Both Apple and Samsung innovate in terms of bringing something new to the mobile arena. It might not necessarily be a technology or invention of theirs specifically, but they do introduce such innovations to the market. Apple are quite conservative in that they tend to bring a couple of new features every 2 years in terms of hardware. FaceID came last year and before that 3DTouch. Samsung to a fault tend to, or used to before the market slowed, flood devices with features in the hope some of it will stick.

I don’t know how you could say Samsung can’t compete with Apple on innovation and keep a straight face. I’m a long time iPhone user and I couldn’t profess to being that oblivious to what is out there. It’s thanks to companies like Samsung, LG and so forth that our iPhones are what they are today. A good push and healthy competition makes the end products better for us.
 
I didn't say it has stereo recording. I said it had stereo speakers. YOUR post said it didn't have stereo SPEAKERS. FYI, you don't record audio on SPEAKERS genius, you record on a mic.

Your speed test video means nothing. You're comparing last years iphone to this years new samsung. It's a year apart. And it's doing it in a way people don't actually use their phone. Synthetic style tests mean nothing and it's hardly real world. You should know that.

They are also comparing on tmobile which uses the intel radio which I already said performs poorly compared to the qualcomm radio in the other iphone variants and in the note. They should have tested with the verizon or sprint version so you could have a qualcomm vs qualcomm. But even if they did it's still last years qualcomm compared to this years qualcomm. Hardly fair. But we'll see for sure next month. However from what I read all of the next iphones will be using intel chips. The good news is they'll work on both GSM and CDMA networks. The downside is last years Intel radio is poor and we don't know what this years chip will bring.

However, if i'm checking my email and texting, listening to music and watching youtube does getting 70mbs down provide a better experience than 20mbs down? No. Those tasks don't use anywhere near that much bandwidth so it means nothing in the real world. And most people are on wifi at work, home and various stores. It does make a difference on my desktop where I am doing different things like downloading and uploading very large files regularly. Most people don't do that on their phones.

Battery life is really up to how a person uses their phone. ios has phenomenal standby times. Always has. Android can be better with pure mh size when it comes to watching videos for long periods of time. When it comes down to actual daily usage, work, travel, home and the various things that come up an iphone will have more battery life left at the end of the day. And of course this varies by your usage. And since I own both and have had more android phones than iphones this is very much true in my experience. I see the same thing when also comparing to friends notes or pixel 2's. I always have more battery life than them. And again, same applies to my personal usage style with both ios and android.

Yes, you can adjust the warmth. That means nothing. Can the phone auto adjust so the screen colors are accurate for the environment you are in?

iphone still has better ram management. Having more ram is not better management of that ram. It's just more. If you had a note 9 with the same amount of ram as the iphone the test would be different. https://www.androidpit.com/android-vs-ios-ram-management

With my usage style I have never had an android phone that lasted as long or felt as fast as any iphone i've owned. Not one. Not by a long shot.

If you don't use your phone much throughout the day, maybe iPhone has advantage. For me, I'm a heavy user since I do most of anything personal using the my Note9. So iPhone much worse actual usage time would be minus. iPhone is good at sleeping but not as efficient doing work. :)

If you are isolated and live around people who just use apple products, then maybe the closed off proprietary apple eco-system is advantageous (but still debatable :p)

Otherwise, in a heterogeneous environment using iOS products are just very restrictive. Many iPhone users just don't realised or just accept the limitations imposed on them.

-seen many iPhone users jump through hoops (or they just gave up) just trying to load or transfer videos/photos to/from their phone and share with others. I know many iphone users who kept their photos/videos in phone only.

- some were shocked how simple it is for my Note9 to mirror phone screen to ANY wifi-enabled TV to show photos/videos. No need for apple tv.

-some basic + simple things that I take for granted are not possible using iPhone. E.g. setting up one touch shortcut icon to auto-send pre-specified SMS or setup a gesture to direct dial a specific person. Or any shortcuts like tapping an icon on the desktop to show the location of a specific friend, to launch a particular item in settings etc. There are so many more that make using my Note9 so much more efficient. iPhone UI is so CUMBERSOME with so limited customization.

- lousy iOS UI design with the back button at hard to reach top left and no stacked based app navigation. I also have an easier time using my Note9 one-handed as i can use gestures from the right of the screen instead of bottom ones on iPhone.

- Finally, iPhone is still SLOW. UI scrolling speed still cannot match android. Slow transition too. Literally have to pause and wait for window to close. Also FaceID unlock is soooooo slow compared to the fps at the back.
 
If you don't use your phone much throughout the day, maybe iPhone has advantage. For me, I'm a heavy user since I do most of anything personal using the my Note9. So iPhone much worse actual usage time would be minus. iPhone is good at sleeping but not as efficient doing work. :)

If you are isolated and live around people who just use apple products, then maybe the closed off proprietary apple eco-system is advantageous (but still debatable :p)

Otherwise, in a heterogeneous environment using iOS products are just very restrictive. Many iPhone users just don't realised or just accept the limitations imposed on them.

-seen many iPhone users jump through hoops (or they just gave up) just trying to load or transfer videos/photos to/from their phone and share with others. I know many iphone users who kept their photos/videos in phone only.

- some were shocked how simple it is for my Note9 to mirror phone screen to ANY wifi-enabled TV to show photos/videos. No need for apple tv.

-some basic + simple things that I take for granted are not possible using iPhone. E.g. setting up one touch shortcut icon to auto-send pre-specified SMS or setup a gesture to direct dial a specific person. Or any shortcuts like tapping an icon on the desktop to show the location of a specific friend, to launch a particular item in settings etc. There are so many more that make using my Note9 so much more efficient. iPhone UI is so CUMBERSOME with so limited customization.

- lousy iOS UI design with the back button at hard to reach top left and no stacked based app navigation. I also have an easier time using my Note9 one-handed as i can use gestures from the right of the screen instead of bottom ones on iPhone.

- Finally, iPhone is still SLOW. UI scrolling speed still cannot match android. Slow transition too. Literally have to pause and wait for window to close. Also FaceID unlock is soooooo slow compared to the fps at the back.

You’re a very unique kind of smartphone user and for you iOS clearly doesn’t work. But you’re trying to argue this point with people who wouldn’t ever have to do the tasks you’ve given as examples above.

This is why these threads seem so childish. We’ve got people of various degrees of usage all the way down to people who are of an extreme geeky level. Most users use their smartphones for text, phone, email and social media these days. People like the feel of a new design and many will appreciate a nice screen. Phones have got so good since 2015 we’re now experiencing an upgrade market that has shrunk as much as 25% in some places. When you’ve got an iPhone 7+ that is only a fraction slower than an iPhone 8+ and Note 9 you have to realise real world usage is not coming on leaps and bounds.
 
You’re a very unique kind of smartphone user and for you iOS clearly doesn’t work. But you’re trying to argue this point with people who wouldn’t ever have to do the tasks you’ve given as examples above.

This is why these threads seem so childish. We’ve got people of various degrees of usage all the way down to people who are of an extreme geeky level. Most users use their smartphones for text, phone, email and social media these days. People like the feel of a new design and many will appreciate a nice screen. Phones have got so good since 2015 we’re now experiencing an upgrade market that has shrunk as much as 25% in some places. When you’ve got an iPhone 7+ that is only a fraction slower than an iPhone 8+ and Note 9 you have to realise real world usage is not coming on leaps and bounds.

If you are talking about those kind of users, then what's the different between iPhone and Android to them...None. Those users are unlikely to make full use of the so called apple "eco-system" anyway. So it boils down to hardware and loyalty
 
Boy, I can’t believe how off-topic we are now from people who prefer iOS, coming to this thread to answer the question posed by thread starter, giving thier opinion. Why they prefer iOS over android?

I find it pathetic, the android owners who dont prefer iOS, that came here to protect android from others opinions and go as low by making fun of those who do prefer iOS. Sad.




It could just be that now iOS and Android are so closely matched, including the hardware the only weapon iOS fans have left to try and beat Android fans with is the ridiculous 'privacy' debate.

I find most people who bang on about privacy don't even understand the issue but simply repeat it parrot fashion.

Our American cousins are by far the worst, seemingly almost paranoid about this. Goodness only knows what they have got to hide.
 
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A huge advantage Apple has over Android vendors is that Apple designs both the software and the hardware. And they work in conjunction with each other to optimize performance. So spec sheet comparison alone isn't the whole story. End user experience is.

Safari is a great example. Open weather underground in Safari and then in Chrome. Doesn't matter if that Chrome is on the iPhone or an Android phone, it's going to be slower opening many of the websites I use regularly. I'd love to use a Moto G6 - affordable, big screen but still narrow enough to be comfortable. But web surfing is just too darn slow. Even my iPhone 6 surfs much faster, with a slower processor. Sigh.

Come to think of it, my iPhone 6 is still as fast as ever and on 10.3.3. But my use is web surfing, texts, email, and occasional pictures. No videos, no games.

I don't see what you are describing at all. I have Chrome on my iPhone, iPad and S7 and all have the same admirable performance. Safari is an awful browser, whether that's on my Mac or my i devices. It just never seems to improve, Apple Mail is similarly bad, hence I use Gmail.
 
It could just be that now iOS and Android are so closely matched, including the hardware the only weapon iOS fans have left to try and beat Android fans with is the ridiculous 'privacy' debate.

I find most people who bang on about privacy don't even understand the issue but simply repeat it parrot fashion.

Our American cousins are by far the worst, seemingly almost paranoid about this. Goodness only knows what they have got to hide.
Honestly don’t care about privacy myself. I’ve used Facebook and other social media so my info is out there. The thing that keeps me on the iPhone is the ecosystem, software updates etc Hardware wise there isn’t a difference, in fact some high end android phones are superior hardware to the iPhone. I have no problems admitting that.
 
Because I can take calls and send messages via my laptop.

And for how many other users do you think that would be a deal breaker? I can send and receive texts via my Laptop or my desktop with Android, but I can't honestly say I use it. As for calls, well me personally I used 9 minutes of my calls allowance last month. ;)

This is really clutching at straws.
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Honestly don’t care about privacy myself. I’ve used Facebook and other social media so my info is out there. The thing that keeps me on the iPhone is the ecosystem, software updates etc Hardware wise there isn’t a difference, in fact some high end android phones are superior hardware to the iPhone. I have no problems admitting that.
I agree with much of your post. As a user of both platforms myself I can appreciate the features/downsides of both. What I can't be doing with is the rabid fanboys on both sides of the argument.

They're either schoolkids/adolescents who are posting this rubbish or adults that haven't yet grown up.
 
If you are talking about those kind of users, then what's the different between iPhone and Android to them...None. Those users are unlikely to make full use of the so called apple "eco-system" anyway. So it boils down to hardware and loyalty
My point has always been most users do pretty much the same tasks on smartphones and the choice of OS is really personal preference.
 
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