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A mere half hour ago I was handed an Android phone I had given someone a while ago (Vodafone Smart Ultra 6) because the battery life was tanking.

I turned it on to find an advert plastered over the lock screen. Looking through the apps installed, there was something called ‘power battery’, an app to apparently optimise battery life and monitor battery health.

Reading a few reviews on it, it’s apparent it does exactly the opposite of what was claimed and also litters your device with adverts. This was installed from the Google Play Store.

Why on earth have Google designed their devices to allow consumers to be so flagrantly abused in this fashion? Why can an app plaster adverts all over the device? It’s just unbelievably and laughably bad. Android has to be the very worst thing to have happened to technology in the last decade allowing consumers to be blatantly abused by advertisers and bad actors, whether that be a Google or the developer of this app. And the amazing thing is some people WILLFULLY bend over and accept this abuse.

I need to get this poor woman an iPhone.
It's her fault for buying a bargain bin Walmart phone. Tell her to get a Pixel or a Note 9. You get what you pay for.
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Which iPhone are you using?? My 7 Plus is lag free. The only ones I can see being a little
Slow would be the 5s-6. Anything newer than the A9 can handle a lot.
I own an iPhone 6,6s and 7 Plus and iPhone X. Apart from the iPhone X every single iPhone slows down every year. This year iOS 12 sped up the phones but that's more due to the fact that iOS 11 was the most horrible release in the history of iOS. The 6s is used by my mom but she doesn't complain much about speed, only battery life.
 
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People want the features that they want, no more, no less. Extra features the vast majority of people don’t use isn’t a positive thing, it’s a waste. Samsung would be wise to spend their time developing their own OS and ecosystem to break their reliance on Google that’s holding them back from competing with Apple rather than adding extra features people don’t want.

Preach!!! Most of those gimmicky features are definitely useless.
 
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It's her fault for buying a bargain bin Walmart phone. Tell her to get a Pixel or a Note 9. You get what you pay for.
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I own an iPhone 6,6s and 7 Plus and iPhone X. Apart from the iPhone X every single iPhone slows down every year. This year iOS 12 sped up the phones but that's more due to the fact that iOS 11 was the most horrible release in the history of iOS. The 6s is used by my mom but she doesn't complain much about speed, only battery life.

How would a pixel or note 9 prevent these apps from appearing in the poorly controlled play store? The problem is Android, not the phone, as usual.
 
You think the iPhone screen in that video is turned up full considering how dim it is and considering that video is also offered in 4K?

I think that just reaffirms what myself a a few others have said here when it seems like you haven’t had an hands on experience with an iPhone for quite a few years, if ever.

This comment is one of the stupidest on this thread so far and I think you intended to provoke by saying it. You know full well the phone people choose has nothing to do with their computer literacy skills. Christ this discussion is stooping to new lows thanks to this type of flaming.

There is a grain of truth in his post. I do think that if you have no tech skills whatsoever, or simply that you're as thick as a brick then an iPhone will be more forgiving of such shortcomings.
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the last Samsung phone I owned ended up thrown at a wall. (Galaxy SII)

That's most illuminating. Thank you for the insight.
 
So tell me what gimmicky useless features is Samsung packing with their phones that nobody wants?

They are useless to me when I tried out the s8/9/note 9

Bixby + Google Assistant (make up your mind)

6-7 security measures to unlock your phone.. Really? Is that even necessary lol

Themes (makes the phone look horrible IMO)

I do like split screen though lol
 
So tell me what gimmicky useless features is Samsung packing with their phones that nobody wants?

I have yet, to see anyone use hand gestures. Not on the street, not in a coffee shop, library, at work, etc.
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It's her fault for buying a bargain bin Walmart phone. Tell her to get a Pixel or a Note 9. You get what you pay for.
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I own an iPhone 6,6s and 7 Plus and iPhone X. Apart from the iPhone X every single iPhone slows down every year. This year iOS 12 sped up the phones but that's more due to the fact that iOS 11 was the most horrible release in the history of iOS. The 6s is used by my mom but she doesn't complain much about speed, only battery life.

The problem is with Google Play Store. It’s filled with horrible apps. Battery apps and flashlight apps for days, and thats just two examples.
There is zero quality control on Google Play Store. Even a chimp with a typewriter is allowed to upload an app to google play store.
 
I have yet, to see anyone use hand gestures. Not on the street, not in a coffee shop, library, at work, etc.
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The problem is with Google Play Store. It’s filled with horrible apps. Battery apps and flashlight apps for days, and thats just two examples.
There is zero quality control on Google Play Store. Even a chimp with a typewriter is allowed to upload an app to google play store.

Yeah...talk about fart apps in App store. That's more embarrassing :)
 
Yeah...talk about fart apps in App store. That's more embarrassing :)
That fart app probably makes more money than the typical "high quality" app on google play store. :)
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When you buy a $1000 product, its your responsibility to handle it with care. Intel and AMD have been making CPUs which break if you insert them the wrong way for decades. Why aren't they called out for it?
Because you can't break the cpu unless you force it; like a square peg in a round hold. The spen didn't have to be forced using excessive force, it just slipped in, nicely.
 
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They are useless to me when I tried out the s8/9/note 9

Bixby + Google Assistant (make up your mind)

6-7 security measures to unlock your phone.. Really? Is that even necessary lol

Themes (makes the phone look horrible IMO)

I do like split screen though lol
"They are useless to me"
Exactly, just because they are useless to you doesn't mean they aren't for someone else.
Bixby is useful since I can control my phone with my own voice like taking a picture or sending a voice message to someone. Themes is useful since I can totally change my phone skin to whatever I want, 6-7 security measures, you choose the more convenient to you so you have choice unlike Apple which you need to use whatever they hand to you without questioning.
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I have yet, to see anyone use hand gestures. Not on the street, not in a coffee shop, library, at work, etc.
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The problem is with Google Play Store. It’s filled with horrible apps. Battery apps and flashlight apps for days, and thats just two examples.
There is zero quality control on Google Play Store. Even a chimp with a typewriter is allowed to upload an app to google play store.
Just like everyone uses Siri on the street, coffee shop, library or work am I right?
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That fart app probably makes more money than the typical "high quality" app on google play store. :)
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Because you can't break the cpu unless you force it; like a square peg in a round hold. The spen didn't have to be forced using excessive force, it just slipped in, nicely.
Oh so that makes it a "Premium" fart app because it's on the App Store. That's so cute! :rolleyes:
 
Here is a great example I have to deal with next week.
My girlfriends son, installed iPhone X app on her Android phone to make it look like iPhone X.. Icons, notch, the works. I will have to format her Android phone and start from scratch, because her phone is barely usable.

Who’s bright idea was it to make such app?? Or at the very least, properly test it before releasing??
 
Finger prints scanners on the back, Bixby, google services, large bezel forehead and chin, s-pen, split screen to name a few.
Who says that a fingerprint scanner is useless? It's better located than ever, Bixby really depends from person to person, Google Services everyone needs since it's an Android phone, S-pen? LOL, split-screen? It will only be useful when Apple "invents" it for their next iPhone Plus right? Those arguments are so poor they hurt to read.
 
Who says that a fingerprint scanner is useless? It's better located than ever, Bixby really depends from person to person, Google Services everyone needs since it's an Android phone, S-pen? LOL, split-screen? It will only be useful when Apple "invents" it for their next iPhone Plus right? Those arguments are so poor they hurt to read.

I say fingerprint scanner on the back is poor design. You asked what’s wrong with Samsung phones, I’m telling you.
 
How would a pixel or note 9 prevent these apps from appearing in the poorly controlled play store? The problem is Android, not the phone, as usual.
Malware has gotten past the App Store as well. However if you install unknown apps the problem is you, not the OS. I use a Windows computer and I have seen many Windows installation plagued with problems of free toolbars and adware. My Windows installation is clean for almost a decade now. This means the OS is not the problem. The user is. Anyone who plays with fire deserves to get burnt.

That fart app probably makes more money than the typical "high quality" app on google play store. :)
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Because you can't break the cpu unless you force it; like a square peg in a round hold. The spen didn't have to be forced using excessive force, it just slipped in, nicely.

No the pins get bent if you even so much as just place it the wrong way. No force necessary as many a amateur system builder has discovered to his peril. If it's Intel you are SOL as the pins are on the motherboard so you can't straighten them out.
 
For as much as people say it isn't true any longer, for the most part...it just works. And on the occasions where it doesn't, I trust Apple to make it right. I'm heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem (MacBook, MacBook Pro, iPhone X, iPad Pro, HomePod, Apple Watch, Apple Music), and the tight integration works well for me.

Specifically, with regard to iOS, I appreciate Apple's stance on privacy. I think the diversity and quality of apps in the App Store are better than Android (although I haven't owned an Android since the Galaxy S3). I get very regular software updates. I am not subject to bloatware from my cellular provider. The OS is stable. Battery life is generally good.

While other phone makers may be first to market with more features, generally I feel they're just throwing a bunch of stuff at a wall to see what sticks. Apple is sometimes late to the party, but they generally nail it.
 
Malware has gotten past the App Store as well. However if you install unknown apps the problem is you, not the OS. I use a Windows computer and I have seen many Windows installation plagued with problems of free toolbars and adware. My Windows installation is clean for almost a decade now. This means the OS is not the problem. The user is. Anyone who plays with fire deserves to get burnt.



No the pins get bent if you even so much as just place it the wrong way. No force necessary as many a amateur system builder has discovered to his peril. If it's Intel you are SOL as the pins are on the motherboard so you can't straighten them out.

Why doesn’t google do a better job of curating it’s platform? Why don’t they do a better job of preventing apps from installing adware all over your device?

The reason they don’t do these things that benefit the consumer is because it doesn’t benefit google.

Google’s interests are in complete conflict with the interests of consumers.

They are one of the most user hostile, anticompetitive companies ever to grace this planet and the sooner they are heavily regulated and broken up the better.
 
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I say fingerprint scanner on the back is poor design. You asked what’s wrong with Samsung phones, I’m telling you.
It's a poor design in your opinion, atleast you still have one, and you haven't only talked about the FP.
 
It's a poor design in your opinion, atleast you still have one, and you haven't only talked about the FP.

I don’t celebrate holding on to legacy technology. I’m a tech enthusiast so I welcome and embrace change and new developments. If you don’t, you are very much on the wrong forum!
 
"They are useless to me"
Exactly, just because they are useless to you doesn't mean they aren't for someone else.
Bixby is useful since I can control my phone with my own voice like taking a picture or sending a voice message to someone. Themes is useful since I can totally change my phone skin to whatever I want, 6-7 security measures, you choose the more convenient to you so you have choice unlike Apple which you need to use whatever they hand to you without questioning.
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Just like everyone uses Siri on the street, coffee shop, library or work am I right?
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Oh so that makes it a "Premium" fart app because it's on the App Store. That's so cute! :rolleyes:

Like it or not,

Androids are stuffed with
I'm done..
 
Malware has gotten past the App Store as well. However if you install unknown apps the problem is you, not the OS. I use a Windows computer and I have seen many Windows installation plagued with problems of free toolbars and adware. My Windows installation is clean for almost a decade now. This means the OS is not the problem. The user is. Anyone who plays with fire deserves to get burnt.



No the pins get bent if you even so much as just place it the wrong way. No force necessary as many a amateur system builder has discovered to his peril. If it's Intel you are SOL as the pins are on the motherboard so you can't straighten them out.
As someone who builds their own computers, I disagree, it doesn't go in unless you force it a bit. But to continue your analogy going to cars, you can connect the positive wire to the negative terminal and blow out your electrical system. Why can't auto makers be sued. I"ll tell you where there is a difference.

The instructions on batteries and cpus are clear and there are visual guidelines. You don't like the instructions/visuals or think they aren't explicit enough, take it up with the respective vendors. No such visual or indication on the note that can have the spen inserted the wrong way. Period.
 
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"They are useless to me"
Exactly, just because they are useless to you doesn't mean they aren't for someone else.
Bixby is useful since I can control my phone with my own voice like taking a picture or sending a voice message to someone. Themes is useful since I can totally change my phone skin to whatever I want, 6-7 security measures, you choose the more convenient to you so you have choice unlike Apple which you need to use whatever they hand to you without questioning.
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Just like everyone uses Siri on the street, coffee shop, library or work am I right?
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Oh so that makes it a "Premium" fart app because it's on the App Store. That's so cute! :rolleyes:
What's cute is that a "fart" app on the app store probably makes more money than the typical app on google play,;)
 
I don’t celebrate holding on to legacy technology. I’m a tech enthusiast so I welcome and embrace change and new developments. If you don’t, you are very much on the wrong forum!
You mean the same legacy technology that is still being included in 2018 Macs and rumored to come in the screen of the future iPhones?
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What's cute is that a "fart" app on the app store probably makes more money than the typical app on google play,;)
So you didn’t quote right did you? Did you read what I quoted and my answer about the fart app? Anyway my answers stands to your quote.
 
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