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iPhone 16e Why does Apple think anyone will buy the iPhone 16e?
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lol when they announce 17e next year, they’ll be putting Magsafe like it’s a new feature. 
I’m not gonna defend apple on pricing too much. All of their products are priced way more than they should be. Apple sees itself is premium and they reflect that in their pricing.
I do think that the 16e is designed to be sold as a carrier monthly payment deal. It starts to seem reasonable then. Even better if you have an old device to exchange/recycle towards that cost.
Secondly, you could see the SE models as an anomaly. Apple doesn’t really do low end. It’s mid to high end consumer. tech and they charge a premium for that.
Thirdly, apple would be very happy if it pushed a certain percentage of buyers to pay more and get the regular 16 instead!
Finally, I hear all of the complaints about the 16e not having MagSafe. I’m price sensitive enough not to want to pay £40 (I’m English) for a charging solution that solves a ‘first world problem’.
So I hear you. We all pay way too much for apple products but as long as enough of us do, apple isn’t going to change.
Hmm. I just looked at an O2 deal in uk. 36 months at £17.50 is £630 rather than £599 for cash. The data deal is £24 a month for 25 GB whereas Giff Gaff (O2 MVNO) would be £10 pm. Carriers here really dont offer anything more than finance plus interest.
We also have 1£=1$ for some reason for all Apple goods, maybe VAT really is a tariff on US goods 😂
I prefer a bigger battery than using the space for Magsafe magnets.
I have MagSafe on my new 16 pro and doubt I will ever use it. I don’t think it’s a major selling point for most.
For some reason? The UK pre-VAT 16e price is approximately £499 which at the current exchange rate is around $626 USD. That's fairly in-line with the pre-sales tax U.S. price of $599.
Given the above, how is UK VAT really a tariff on U.S. goods? Besides, doesn't the VAT apply to all goods regardless of where they are from/made?
Your scenario is actually what Tim Cook dreams of each night:
billions of people convincing themselves to climb up the iPhone pricing ladder.
It’s what the CEO and Board of Directors of every corporation dream of every night!
Totally agree.
The 16e is missing a lot of features that you simply won’t miss if you’ve never had them - ie the features on the top of the S curve.
MagSafe, Dynamic Island, ultra wide band find my, new style camera modes.
Ok useful but not essential and in product management terms, ‘nice to haves’.
Only one camera lens compared to the regular 16…
How many times do you find yourself taking closeup shots?
And I’ve never seen an ultra wide lens shot that doesn’t make it look like you’re on strong psychedelics.
The zoom lens is great. But that’s always been a pro thing.
But you can only get it in two boring colours!!! 99% of people put their iPhone in a case, so who cares?
No 5g fast milliwave thing. Not relevant to anyone outside of the USA (like me) and if this sort of thing bothers you, you probably should be getting a pro anyway.
A modern fast processor ready for when apple intelligence actually becomes a must have, insane battery life, fantastic regular camera - all sounds good to me.
The 16e is missing a lot of features that you simply won’t miss if you’ve never had them - ie the features on the top of the S curve.
MagSafe, Dynamic Island, ultra wide band find my, new style camera modes.
Ok useful but not essential and in product management terms, ‘nice to haves’.
Only one camera lens compared to the regular 16…
How many times do you find yourself taking closeup shots?
And I’ve never seen an ultra wide lens shot that doesn’t make it look like you’re on strong psychedelics.
The zoom lens is great. But that’s always been a pro thing.
But you can only get it in two boring colours!!! 99% of people put their iPhone in a case, so who cares?
No 5g fast milliwave thing. Not relevant to anyone outside of the USA (like me) and if this sort of thing bothers you, you probably should be getting a pro anyway.
A modern fast processor ready for when apple intelligence actually becomes a must have, insane battery life, fantastic regular camera - all sounds good to me.
The SE wasn't really low end anyway. It started at $429 which is around mid-range Android.
Yes we all pay sales tax. I was being ironic (re Trump claims) We have to laugh else cry.
When Apple just launched the iPhone 16e, what was she thinking? Would people prefer all these flaws for $200?
If it had cost $500 I think it would have been a hit, and people would have lined up to buy it, but at $600 I'd save a little more and buy an iPhone 16 for $800
Maybe it's even worth giving up Apple Intellect
Really Apple, it seems like you want this to remain a niche phone like the SE 3 (I'm not sure the amount Apple paid the programmers to write this HTML was worth it to them)
What do you think about this?
I think that Apple will consider the 16e a success so long as it accounts for about 5-6% of overall iphone sales.
Remember, Apple probably doesn’t want too many people buying it when they could be getting more expensive models.
Previously had a 15 Pro which suffered a disaster & I've just ordered a black 16e after using an iPhone 8 for the last few months. Looking forward to getting it!
When rumors of a new SE surfaced, I ignored them because I would not buy one. The reality is that the SE has gone the way of the iPhone Mini - it no longer exists. For me, this simplifies my decision process as I am looking to upgrade my iPhone 12. Cost is not a factor, but I do not spend money on things I won't use. Personally I would get no value from a 16 at $200 more.
The minis were quite in a good pricing spot. They were even cheaper than the larger 12/13ns even though they had higher integration (which is the thing that costs money - you pay for phones to be smaller for a given capability).
The SE were positioned as successor to the minis because they couldn't/wouldn't produce newer minis. So they became state of the art. The alternative in many cases was not to buy a "regular" iphone, but simply an android phone like the fairphone as apple has a lot more competition in the bigger phone market.
That the SE was cheaper than the mini was simply a result of consolidation. People interested in cheap usually don't buy apple.
So actually t-mobile at Sam’s club is giving $830 towards an upgrade if you upgrade a 11 or newer…. So pretty much why get an e……
I didn't think it was much of a feature until I got a wireless dock and just having it click into place is nice. But that's really it for me.
The SE utilizes a popular, existing design, which happens to be small. The primary reason for the phone was the value, just like the following two releases. Affordability is the primary feature highlighted in the 2020 and 2022 versions.
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I can see that but plugging in works for me too. At least the little pucks are relatively cheap.
I just ordered some self adhesive magsafe rings for my phone cases.
Not sure price was the only factor, some of our resellers with stock of SE3 are advertising them for £599 ($600+) for the 128GB. Even third party refurbs are selling out. Lucky to get an ex demo SE now.
For some reason I thought no MagSafe meant no wireless charging for a quick second. The adhesive rings make sense.
Arrived - I had to make a cutout for my kick stand. Plain steel, Strong enough to hold the puck at least
