Agreed. No disrespect but I suspect that a lot of people on this thread dissing the 16e would never get anything less than the latest pro max with at least 1 TB.
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iPhone 16e Why does Apple think anyone will buy the iPhone 16e?
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So one aspect some have overlooked. If you trade in an iPhone 11 128GB - the iPhone 16E then becomes £494. Now that is a bargain.
It's even cheaper with a newer iPhone trade-in - £229 if you trade in an iPhone 15.
It's even cheaper with a newer iPhone trade-in - £229 if you trade in an iPhone 15.
That’s probably true for some. They have to have the latest and greatest and wonder why someone would choose a different modern and capable phone from them.
The SE has never been about being small. The current SE was not a replacement for the 13 mini, it was a replacement for the previous SE. It was simply an older, cheaper design that could be offered at a lower price point with updated processor. Older designs just happened to be smaller. The SE line already existed when the minis were launched. The minis had a price point in a bad spot in the lineup between the iphone 12/13 and the SE.
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Not everyone. I was looking forward to a new SE to replace my SE3. While the 16e is fine on features, the price is not. Had it been $100 less it would have been acceptable. Given it is only $200 less than the real iphone 16 it is no longer a budget phone, and while I don't need the features missing in the 16e, it doesn't seem like a good value. It reminds me of the iphone 5c which was universally maligned. Might as well just buy the real 16 instead.
Our Iphone 13's are paid off on carrier contract and we don't plan to update them right now unless one of them fails, and quite often that happens within 6 months after paid off, it's almost like they are pre-programmed to do that. Any way, next time I want to just buy our phones rather than on carrier contract, unless the offer is so good ya just can't pass it up. That has happened before.
iPhone 16e should have a market lifespan of 3 to 4 years. $600 may seem expensive right now, but what will the iPhone 17, 18, and 19 cost?
Uhuh. This is marketing. In price lining, a company sets different price points across a product lin,.The goal is to encourage consumers to opt for the higher-priced item, believing it offers better value or superior features.
Apple sells refurbished 15 Pros but they are 250 Euro more than the 16E. So what's the point? I don't want to spend 950 Euros on a damn phone. So the 16E is great for 700 Euros. It has everything I need and more than my current 12 mini.
Yeah that price is out of whack. In the United States I have been seeing mint condition unlocked iPhone 15 Pros go for around $620-$640 to go along with a one year Allstate insurance which I have used in the past and have had a good experience with.
The iPhone 15 only has 3.5 years of guaranteed support remaining while the 16e has 5 years. The 16e would be better long term.
3.5 years of a much better experience that if taken care of properly can subsidize your iPhone 20 or 21? I personally think that's the way to go assuming a mint condition iPhone 15 Pro can be had for those trying to make a decision.
I upgrade annually but that is because I have 7 phones on my plan. If I didn't have this I would wait the 3 years. Its just easier to upgrade a phone every year and not have to worry about having to come out of pocket for 2-3 of them at once.
mine - New phone
my parents - 1 year phone goes to either who has the oldest phone
2 kids - 2-3 year old phone goes to who ever has the oldest phone
my wife - she buys her own every 3-4 years
my sister - same as above
My phone, my sister and my wife phone we do the 2 year contract with T-mobile so they give us like $400+ for a 4 year old phone that pays for the new one I get. they usually get the pro so they hold it for a while. I get the base model.
I dont know how it is internationally but in the US you get great carrier deals to keep you for 2 years. I have had t-mobile now for 12 years and my plan is $120 for all lines + paying off the new iphone
Yeah everyone has their own preferences with these things. I just think the 16E sits in this strange space in where it's really not a "budget" phone anymore and has so many things stripped away from the more expensive iPhone models that it is well worth considering last year's flagship if you can get your hands on it at around the same price.
From what I recall it was extremely difficult to do this shortly after the release of the older iPhone SE models because their entry price was so low. That appears to no longer be the case and do wonder if we might be in store for a price hike in upcoming iPhone models due later this year.
Yeah, it's not really budget. That said, carrier deals can make it a lot more palatable.
it comes down to carrier incentives. I give them a 4 year old phone and $100 thats a good deal. Think alot of carriers will give it for free. This is why they will sell.
Don’t equate disappointment to hate. Personally I applaude the reduced-camera-bump option, although I’m still disappointed that it isn’t flush with the body. Supporting wireless charging but depriving it of MagSafe is just petty, as most reviewers have been pointing out. Color options are fewer than with the SE. The battery is great. The price is just too high to get excited about the overall package. You have to go back six generations (iPhone XR) to find a non-SE iPhone that isn’t better in some aspect than the 16e.
The original SE announcement highlighted the small size: https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2016...Most-Powerful-Phone-with-a-Four-inch-Display/
Basically, the pitch was flagship features in a smaller form factor.
Given the name change from the SE, in all likelihood they plan to update it yearly like the Samsung and Pixel budget lines. Maybe they’ll keep the previous model around for $100 less then, though that would also mean they need to add enough new features to not cannibalize the new model. I wouldn’t be surprised if they just replace it with only minor updates.
You can get a non-Pro iPhone 15 new for around the same price, and a “like new” for around 640€. I’d argue that’s a better deal for many people. If course, the street price of the 16e will go down in a few months. I’d at least wait for that.
Is there any phone on the market for £599 (refurb iPhones dont count) that can match the performance of the 16E? I don't think there is 🤷🏽♂️
Well you will miss Apple AI with the regular 15 so this beats the purpose of having a new future proof iphone for two to five years. Yeah I could buy a used two year old phone every two years instead a new one every four years but then I don’t save any money again.