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Because for the most part these forums are a lot more civilized than most of the Android ones. Plus I'm still an Apple geek at heart, and I started here.
 
On the other hand this IS the "Alternatives to iOS and iOS Devices" section.

So that's why we get threads about 71% of Apple investors (according to a Bloomberg poll) don't think the company is innovative enough?
 
Many Android users also have other Apple products. Their primary desktop OS might be OS X too.
 
How many people who prefer iOS feel the need to go to Android forums and do the same thing?

Last time I looked MacRumors was not an iOS forum, I thought it was for ALL Apple products

MacRumors is not the same as a dedicated Android site
 
I first joined this forum when all the tech products I owned were made by Apple, the majority still are, when I bought an Android phone I also joined some Android forums that I visit and post under the same username as I have here, doesn't mean that I shouldn't still visit and enjoy Macrumors.

I also pay a voluntary yearly subscription to the upkeep of this forum.

I was quite pleased when they opened up an "Alternatives" section, there is a good core of unbiased posters whose views I trust. I have learned many tips and tricks concerning Android on this forum than elsewhere, I have also benefited from Macrumors members recommendations in regards to apps and widgets in the Play store.

There are poster in this section that just champion makers products without objectivity, those I ignore and there are those that have iPhones that post in the section just for an argument or through ignorance of Android products, again, I try to ignore these. Some are Apple/Android owners that are indignant that someone prefers something different from themselves.

I have no brand loyalty, I mean nothing to them other than I buy their products and they mean nothing to me, I have no interest in their stock prices and if they are doomed (something that I only hear from the more forceful Apple owners here rather than Android users BTW) or go out of business, I will buy products from another manufacturer without fear, favour or regret.
 
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I originally joined because I did and still do own a lot of apple products. I stay on these forums because it is a small community, the android sections, and I get all of the tips and advice I need.
 
Things are more interesting where worlds collide :)

Also I find most pure-Android forums too cluttered. XDA for instance has tons of in-depth tech info to offer, but there's just so damned much of everything that the really interesting points of discussion often get lost under all the debris (and people's ginormous sigs over there drive me crazy).

This forum just seems to brings up the most worthwhile points of discussion, while not getting too overcrowded. And I hope it stays that way so....shhhh don't tell anyone :D
 
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There are also in-betweeners who just want to learn one way or another (they can be hard to spot IMHO, and can easily be accused of being in one or the other of the above two categories).

I think you're spot-on about the in-betweeners. Judging from post reports, they can easily be called a fanboy or troll, unfairly.

I think you guys misunderstand the OP (unless I am). While it's nice to get a lot of opinions on Alternative devices and such, there are too many posters berating Apple users on an Apple related forum. Cut through the BS of trolls that pass by, there are still a ton of posts that come off on the extreme end of Android fanboyism. And while you also get Apple fanboys quick to refute sound statements/arguments, did you really not expect it on a (again) Apple related forum?

There's rampant "fanboyism", as you put it, on both sides of the fence. If someone's posting to rile the membership up, it's trolling and should be reported. But I think both sides have a ways to go as far as sitting back and allowing people to be enthusiastic about the platform they're using. ;)

Most people who post here had or have an iPhone so they're knowledge and point of view as an iPhone owner transitioning to an Android (or alternate) device is very helpful.

The recommendations and tips of what phones and apps to use has helped me and a lot of members make the switch easier.

Agree.

Many Android users also have other Apple products. Their primary desktop OS might be OS X too.

Yup, this is how I see it. I fall into that category, as do a fair number of people I know.
 
Alternatives... but still an Apple based forum. My point wasn't that debates, suggestions, and opinions shouldn't be given. But to go on to an Apple forum to pass your opinion that Android is best as fact... what's the point of that?

For example, I think iOS is the best in mobile. My personal opinion. And it's cool to read why others think Android is better, or BB10 is better, or Windows 8 is better. But then there are those who go to the extremes to argue that it is nonsense to even consider iOS...

There are those types that argue FOR apple also, unfortunately they exist for all brands.

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So that's why we get threads about 71% of Apple investors (according to a Bloomberg poll) don't think the company is innovative enough?

Did I say anything about that? Why are you asking me? Then again, why would you take it personal if 71% of the investors don't think apple is innovative enough? It's just a company that cares nothing about you. I believe investors can think whatever they want and I for one still sleep at night.

Why is it that some apple users think it's impossible and unthinkable to use mac's but prefer android phones? It's about using what you like, not worshiping a brand.

The bottom line is that someone can speak out about things they dislike about a company they like and use at least some of their products.
 
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So that's why we get threads about 71% of Apple investors (according to a Bloomberg poll) don't think the company is innovative enough?

Threads (plural) or a thread? ;)

There's always going to be subjects that made and discussed that people on either side of the fence won't like but I think that's the nature of this forum. For the most part, it can be constructive here.
 
There are those types that argue FOR apple also, unfortunately they exist for all brands.

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Did I say anything about that? Why are you asking me? Then again, why would you take it personal if 71% of the investors don't think apple is innovative enough? It's just a company that cares nothing about you. I believe investors can think whatever they want and I for one still sleep at night.

Why is it that some apple users think it's impossible and unthinkable to use mac's but prefer android phones? It's about using what you like, not worshiping a brand.

The bottom line is that someone can speak out about things they dislike about a company they like and use at least some of their products
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Man you are so on target with those comments.......
Its not about blind loyalty....but rather what fits needs...wants... and desires of the consumer.
 
So that's why we get threads about 71% of Apple investors (according to a Bloomberg poll) don't think the company is innovative enough?
Also this is MacRumors....not AppleInsider. You can be very objective here and not get beat down by all the fanboys.....They exist here too....but most of the people here are very balanced in their point of views.....
I see you on AI but you don't have the same signature on AI as you have here on MR? The reaction might be different over there than it is here.....
Here we are allowed to think different and use and like products not made by Apple. Most people here have Apple and other products as well. Apple makes great products and I use a ton of them and will continue to do so....but I also love my Samsung GS4.....can't say that on some forums without starting a war.....
We have this alternative section here for just what it says.....
 
OP, I dislike iOS but I use Apple computers, hence my presence here. You can enjoy Apple products without only buying Apple products.
 
I post here because I bought an original iPhone in July 2007. A week after owning it, I bought a MBP. Since 2007, I've owen several other Macs and every iPhone model except for the iPhone 5. I still use two MacBooks, a 2010 white MB and a 2008 black MB.

This year, I also bought my first two Android devices, a Nexus 4 and a Nexus 7 and I still use a 4S that I bought in January. I mention all of the devices all the time in these forums because I can and I like using all of them.
 
I read macrumors forums to learn about my devices, and I read this subforum to learn about the features other brands are bringing to the table. But i'm a bit peeved with how many threads there are on users that try to convince us on what phone we should be buying. Or maybe to convince themselves?

Reassurance posts, inferiority complexes, or paid shills for other companies?

How many people who prefer iOS feel the need to go to Android forums and do the same thing? The largest Android forum has a subforum for iOS and other devices, with a whopping 200 threads, and threads from last year on the first page.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/iphone-ios/

Note the locked "Thinking about switching to an iPhone" thread :(

No one is making you read anything. Dont like it, dont read it. The Title tells you all you need to know.
For me, we have both platforms though i only use Android for my phone(ive no need to use both) and really this place is a lot busier than other forums and i get a lot of great info from here. If i need to get hacking advice ill go to XDA.
 
I think a better question is why does macrumors feel a need to report android news so much? Visit Android police and you won't see Apple mentioned beyond a news item relating to them suing..

Let's face it, macrumors is now an android/apple site.
 
I read macrumors forums to learn about my devices, and I read this subforum to learn about the features other brands are bringing to the table. But i'm a bit peeved with how many threads there are on users that try to convince us on what phone we should be buying. Or maybe to convince themselves?

Reassurance posts, inferiority complexes, or paid shills for other companies?

How many people who prefer iOS feel the need to go to Android forums and do the same thing? The largest Android forum has a subforum for iOS and other devices, with a whopping 200 threads, and threads from last year on the first page.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/iphone-ios/



Note the locked "Thinking about switching to an iPhone" thread :(

Honestly I think what you are posting is what is weird, seems like a bit of an oversensitivity to what is just an internet forum. Personally I use Apple products AND non Apple products, so I like to discuss both.

I think most users honestly discuss what works for THEIR needs and many times others take this personally as if they are espousing universally against their chosen OS. Although it's been my experience that most on this subforum are more reasonable human beings who use multiple OS's and multiple devices and like comparing them and discussing the differences. Sure we occasionally get the "Apple sucks" guy on here, but I think we do a pretty good job of shutting down people like that.
 
It depends on the forum. I don't frequent the forum that the OP quoted. I visit this one and androidforums.com. I find that these two forums are moderated well and the conversations are engaging and civil for the most part.

I'm an Android user, but my wife and a few other members in my family do use the iPhone and iPad and I am their primary tech support person. As iOS devices are very popular, I do like reading people's opinions on iOS devices as well and comparisons between devices across these and other platforms. I like hearing about people's experience with Windows Phone and BlackBerry as well.

Right now, I'm not interested enough about WP and BB to go on those device specific forums.
 
Because this is one of the most sane places to have constructive and useful discussion about android instead of blind "go android go" and "flash or die" attitude of other forums, as long as you ignore the fanboy ish debates.

Actually not. I have an HTC One and I am finding this sub-forum on xda-developers less inflammatory, more informative and far less fanboyish and trollish than our sub-forum. Why do I still stick around here? Primarily because I have been here for several years and have built a few relationships with members.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2116
 
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Reassurance posts, inferiority complexes, or paid shills for other companies...

It seems like most people who post here now are genuine. They have a mixture of products, and like talking about all of them. One or two have a very strong, biased preference for Android, but then again they're not trolls and many people who defend the iPhone here are also biased. On my part I come here because I am investigating getting a tablet, and the iPad is a bit too expensive for me. Thus, I am considering buying an Android tablet (that is, once my nest egg grows faster than my spawn can clean me out of money. :)).

The one thing I would say is that I believe there were people who once posted in the main iPhone forum who seem to be engaging in guerilla marketing on behalf of Samsu... er.... Android phones. They were identifiable as being newbies who only posted a few pro-Android posts for a particular company's products, using poor English, and being way over the top in the use of superlatives. We never seemed to get similar posts about Blackberry, Windows phone, Nokia, etc. Of course I have no proof of my suspicions - it's just a gut feeling. In any case, these type of posts reduced dramatically once this subforum was created, so everybody's happy.
 
I find it weird that I prefer to post here about my android devices than on Android forums. I don't know if it's because I've been here longer, or if it's more active here, or a combination. I had an iPhone, and still use Apple products. So it still make sense for me to post here.
 
I read macrumors forums to learn about my devices, and I read this subforum to learn about the features other brands are bringing to the table. But i'm a bit peeved with how many threads there are on users that try to convince us on what phone we should be buying. Or maybe to convince themselves?

Reassurance posts, inferiority complexes, or paid shills for other companies?

How many people who prefer iOS feel the need to go to Android forums and do the same thing? The largest Android forum has a subforum for iOS and other devices, with a whopping 200 threads, and threads from last year on the first page.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/iphone-ios/

Note the locked "Thinking about switching to an iPhone" thread :(

Astroturfing is a well known reality, sadly.
But the real point is that Apple is hated by some customers.
Everything regarding Apple causes exaggerated reactions by an huge number of people.
 
I think the reason Android users post here is because it is a busy site. Some Android sites are slow and imo there is a lot more info here than anywhere else. Clearly many use both platforms. Sure some will bash, the fanboys of both will have their say but i like to see other takes on things and i even learn something sometimes.
 
I think the reason Android users post here is because it is a busy site. Some Android sites are slow and imo there is a lot more info here than anywhere else. Clearly many use both platforms. Sure some will bash, the fanboys of both will have their say but i like to see other takes on things and i even learn something sometimes.

I am surprised that a one year old thread has been revived :) Oh well, I just want to comment on the highlighted text. As much as I like this site, having been a member for 6 years like you, that comment is hugely erroneous. Xda-Developers, not just for those into rooting and flashing ROMs, is a huge source of general comments on a vast array of phones, troubleshooting tips etc. This section is not remotely comparable for Android.
 
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