Why I think the 2019 MacBook Pro is a Recommended Wait - Hear Me Out.

[cool11]

With so much estimations and information I start feeling a little bit confused.

Which is the last model of the current 4-year cycle? 2018, 2019?

Taking an ARM-cpu MBP, won't be a risk, as it will be the 1st of it's cycle?

On the other had, if apple is moving on a totally new architecture and we already know it, how safe and wise is to stick with an older one, for example with intel cpu?

I hoped that the horizon would be more clear than this.

 

[macintoshmac]

I for one am really looking forward to an A-chipset based 12" Macbook at least, to begin with. The kind of control Apple could exert would be tremendous and I am really looking forward to what gains in battery life and system snappiness we might be able to see.

 

[Mr. Dee]

With so much estimations and information I start feeling a little bit confused.

Which is the last model of the current 4-year cycle? 2018, 2019?

Taking an ARM-cpu MBP, won't be a risk, as it will be the 1st of it's cycle?

On the other had, if apple is moving on a totally new architecture and we already know it, how safe and wise is to stick with an older one, for example with intel cpu?

I hoped that the horizon would be more clear than this.

Next year is likely to be the last of this series that came out in 2016.

2020 Apple should be embarking on a possible redesign, that will still use Intel processors. A-Series might be a totally different product that aligns more to the current retina MacBook than a MacBook Pro.

It is also possible Apple might stick with the current design or slightly increase thickness since it has kind of worked against them on couple fronts: battery, thermal and keyboard.

 

[anthony13]

The original poster is spot on, but I tend to think we won’t see a redesign until 2021. Either way, waiting for 10nm, better GPU’s, and DDR4 seems smart. The 2018 was tempting but I have a 2017 and the gpu difference was the determine factor for me to keep my 2017.

 

[maflynn]

Either way, waiting for 10nm, better GPU’s, and DDR4 seems smart.

I'm not saying those things are not important, but there will always be newer faster tech coming down the pipeline. I think the 2018 model represents a sizable improvement over prior generations.

The 2018 was tempting but I have a 2017 and the gpu difference was the determine factor for me to keep my 2017.

Of course, going from a prior year's model to a current year doesn't always make sense, in terms of the fiscal perspective and performance, though with an addition of 2 more cores, the 2018 does have a large boost in performance unlike prior years.

As for 2021, I do believe that apple more likely to move to ARM and the 2020 year may be the year that they do that.

 

[Mr. Dee]

So we have another one to add to the list, bigger display.

 

[Falhófnir]

So we have another one to add to the list, bigger display.

plus full redesign, though exactly how far reaching that is remains to be seen...

 

[smirking]

So we have another one to add to the list, bigger display.

Credit where credit is due, sir! If the current rumors bear fruit, you'd have been right on the money!

 

[lJoSquaredl]

- Base models are overpriced. I think they should be $200 less.

- Subpar graphics performance - they seem to be pushing external graphics enclosures which themselves are not ideal for many reasons (large, expensive, big performance loss)

I can see $200 less being a smart move tho that's probably the ones they sell the most of so it'd be a larger hit than cheaper upgrades...tho with cheaper upgrades people may actually go that route more often. Regardless their refurbs are basically their models priced according to or cheaper than Windows alternatives, people don't seem to take advantage of that program tho.

As for graphics, idk I edit video and I find the speeds pretty damn nice when using FCPX designed to take advantage of the hardware. Most will have to max out PC specs on Windows machines with Premiere just to have the same effect from what I can tell, Apple with much less hardware seems to do just as well or beat em in benchmarks. If I can have similar or better speeds and keep battery life for it that sounds fine in terms of a mobile system. They could add an Nvidia 2080 TI or whatever but the amount of heat and noice and battery life it would suck seems counter intuitive to a mobile machine. They could always have the option for those types tho I suppose, people that just want a desktop they can lug around easier. (perhaps that's what the 16.5 inch rumor is)

 

[pshufd]

If Apple does go ARM, it will be leaked at least a year before launch as software developers will need the lead time to do ports and testing.

 

[MichaelDT]

If Apple does go ARM, it will be leaked at least a year before launch as software developers will need the lead time to do ports and testing.

Meh there’s a lot less CPU dependent code out there these days. Apple has done a pretty good job abstracting this away with swift. That said, it’ll be the end of software development workshops defaulting to buying Apple hardware. Can’t develop of x86 servers on an ARM system without emulation. They’ll also lose scientists for similar reasons.

 

[canhaz]

Well if you're a Macbook Pro 13" user, waiting for the 2019 MBP 13" would have probably have been a bit of disappointment compared to the 2018 and frankly bad advice in hindsight.

 

[Mr. Dee]

Well if you're a Macbook Pro 13" user, waiting for the 2019 MBP 13" would have probably have been a bit of disappointment compared to the 2018 and frankly bad advice in hindsight.

Personally, I won’t be upgrading until 2021.

 

[KarmaRocket]

Personally, I won’t be upgrading until 2021.

The year keeps moving up! lol

I totally understand. Though I think Ice Lake with the better iGPU will make the 13" model more interesting in 2020. I hope Apple gets a bit more ambitious and makes the 13" a bezel less 14" with dGPU. IMHO all pro models should have dGPU, but that's just me.

 

[Mr. Dee]

The year keeps moving up! lol

I totally understand. Though I think Ice Lake with the better iGPU will make the 13" model more interesting in 2020. I hope Apple gets a bit more ambitious and makes the 13" a bezel less 14" with dGPU. IMHO all pro models should have dGPU, but that's just me.

Well, the Mac is going through a transition right now and I want the dust to settle. I want to see what role A series is gonna play, how the inclusion of iPad apps on the Mac will affect the user experience.

 

[NJRonbo]

I am waiting for a new 16 or 17-inch model, hopefully without the new keyboard.

 

[TommyBoy5]

Just bought the 2019 15". The screen is 15.4 inches. I started really thinking about that half an inch and elected to just buy now. I understand the screen technology may be different, processor might be different, graphics GPU might be different, but I needed this now. My 12" MB was on its last legs.

And the difference in screen real estate is massive between the 12 and 15. I'm perfectly fine with my decision - mostly because I'm typing this response on it right now!

 

[doitdada]

Well, the Mac is going through a transition right now and I want the dust to settle. I want to see what role A series is gonna play, how the inclusion of iPad apps on the Mac will affect the user experience.

You are settling for nothing else but the wait...

 

[canhaz]

hope Apple gets a bit more ambitious and makes the 13" a bezel less 14" with dGPU. IMHO all pro models should have dGPU, but that's just me.

Completely agree. In fact Huawei showed that it's doable with the Matebook Pro X.

A beautiful 14" and yet due to the smalls bezels, almost identical physical dimensions and weight to the MBP 13" and it comes with discreet graphics MX150/250. Apple seems to almost always be in catchup mode these days with regards to it's product development :'(