Why is Big Sur so ugly?

[nickdalzell1]

I like it. Eye candy reminds me of 10.0 Cheetah.

Needs to be complete though. skeuo icons are good, but we need our scrollbars, aqua buttons, and pinstripes.

Heck, I'd be happy to get brushed aluminum back on Music/iTunes. We got the UI basically the same style but it's too flat.

 

[colourfastt]

I lived through the remnants of it since I was born in '79 and my parents still hadn't updated their decor until the late 80s when we got a new house.

The way things back then tried to imagine the future is called 'retro-futurism' and I think we're going through a software reversion of it today. Can't figure out what decade it's trying to fit into, completely out of ideas.

I think the past decade or so has been completely devoid of ideas, witnessed by the innumerable—and utterly horrid— number of remakes of 60s, 70s, and 80s TV shows and movies.

 

[fisherking]

I think the past decade or so has been completely devoid of ideas, witnessed by the innumerable—and utterly horrid— number of remakes of 60s, 70s, and 80s TV shows and movies.

wow, i can think of so many great shows, movies that have happened in this past decade. can't understand why people cling to the past; every single generation has people who think their time was 'the good old days'... SMH

 

[colourfastt]

wow, i can think of so many great shows, movies that have happened in this past decade. can't understand why people cling to the past; every single generation has people who think their time was 'the good old days'... SMH

I can think of only 1 (and a half): Downton Abbey (of course it's a British show), and the "half" being Mr. Selfridge (also a British production), mostly because I'm not a fan of Jeremy Piven.

 

[fisherking]

I can think of only 1 (and a half): Downton Abbey (of course it's a British show), and the "half" being Mr. Selfridge (also a British production), mostly because I'm not a fan of Jeremy Piven.

money heist (aka 'the house of paper'), fleabag, watchmen, the umbrella academy, gangs of london, get shorty, bojack horseman. etc etc etc. just the tip of the iceberg (& have not even gotten into the movies list).

all of this, as always, is subjective. but to dismiss the entire last decade ("or so") is a remarkable statement, and assumes that all the creativity happened, coincidentally, in the decades that mattered to you. anyway..................

EDIT: what i always reference is this: in the 60s, when the rolling stones were coming up, older people complained it wasn't as good as the music in their day, it was noise, it was awful. then keith richards, 50 years later, saying the same thing about hip hop 🙄 . and so on & so on 😔

 

[nanoant]

wow, i can think of so many great shows, movies that have happened in this past decade. can't understand why people cling to the past; every single generation has people who think their time was 'the good old days'... SMH

Wow.. this is getting seriously off topic. Nevertheless, not everything that is new is better. And not everything advertised as "new" is really new. Big Sur UI is not new and is not fresh, it is basically post iOS 7 L&F ported to macOS. And to remind you and everyone claiming it is fresh - iOS 7 was over released 7 years ago and 2 years before Windows 10.

Btw. Another good read about Big Sur mixed impressions/feelings is here First Impressions? Some very good points there about design flaws of macOS Big Sur.

 

[Foulenough]

Is it just me, or does the finder face in the dock look like it's bald?

 

[fisherking]

Wow.. this is getting seriously off topic. Nevertheless, not everything that is new is better. And not everything advertised as "new" is really new. Big Sur UI is not new and is not fresh, it is basically post iOS 7 L&F ported to macOS. And to remind you and everyone claiming it is fresh - iOS 7 was over released 7 years ago and 2 years before Windows 10.

Btw. Another good read about Big Sur mixed impressions/feelings is here First Impressions? Some very good points there about design flaws of macOS Big Sur.

no one said 'everything new is better', that's even further off topic. and who cares how we got here? big sur is what it is, and we can like it's look... or not. then we go back to work.

 

[nickdalzell1]

The Finder icon hasn't been the same since Yosemite, I'm afraid. It looks more like the smiley face Picard drew in the warp core cloud in Timescape

 

[fisherking]

The Finder icon hasn't been the same since Yosemite, I'm afraid. It looks more like the smiley face Picard drew in the warp core cloud in Timescape

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wait. and that's a bad thing? or a good thing?...

 

[asus389]

Aesthetics aside, there's something weird going on with font and graphics rendering in Big Sur. I've been using it for a couple days and its causing eye strain. The text looks kind of blurry and some graphics look like they are over sharpened. Some graphics also look blurred. This is on a clean install on a 2017 rMBP 13. I rebooted into Catalina to check and everything looks a lot better. Not sure what going on.

 

[Lvivske]

my first impressions now that ive been using the OS for a bit is that design wise, this is amateur hour

 

[eyalben]

What is adding the key command on the right, because it's certainly not there by default?

The terminal screenshot is from iTerm

 

[colourfastt]

money heist (aka 'the house of paper'), fleabag, watchmen, the umbrella academy, gangs of london, get shorty, bojack horseman. etc etc etc. just the tip of the iceberg (& have not even gotten into the movies list).

all of this, as always, is subjective. but to dismiss the entire last decade ("or so") is a remarkable statement, and assumes that all the creativity happened, coincidentally, in the decades that mattered to you. anyway..................

EDIT: what i always reference is this: in the 60s, when the rolling stones were coming up, older people complained it wasn't as good as the music in their day, it was noise, it was awful. then keith richards, 50 years later, saying the same thing about hip hop 🙄 . and so on & so on 😔

I've never heard of any of those.

 

[fisherking]

I've never heard of any of those.

then they must be awful

 

[Heat_Fan89]

Count me in the group that loves the new look. It's been running just fine on my 2018 Mini and I did an upgrade from Catalina.

 

[Furka]

This look reminds me Ubuntu Gnome Desktop. Very very similar in some points.

 

[G4DPII]

It's Apples new way, lets see how fugly we can make it, and watch the idiots lap it up saying it's wonderful.

 

[fisherking]

It's Apples new way, lets see how fugly we can make it, and watch the idiots lap it up saying it's wonderful.

so... you're saying that people who 'claim' to 'like' the new GUI are idiots? and the people (coincidently, including yourself), are... what exactly? and is fugly an actual word? 🙄

 

[ErikGrim]

That's not Terminal, that's iTerm

So it's the app adding it, not the system.

 

[nickdalzell1]

I wondered how long it would take before someone blamed iTerm's broken dialogue on the app developer, not Apple!

 

[Kyanar]

So it's the app adding it, not the system.

Correct. I would assume it's making assumptions as to the placement and scaling of elements in the title bar.

 

[steve62388]

The initial period of weakening sight, when it isn’t genetic, is down to eye strain and bad practice.

Presbyopia affects everybody to some degree as they age. That's not genetics, eye strain or bad practice. It's part of the normal ageing process.

Presbyopia is a normal part of the aging process.[4] It occurs due to age related changes in lens (decreased elasticity and increased hardness) and ciliary muscle power of the eye, causing the eye to focus light behind rather than on the retina when looking at close objects.
People over 40 are at risk for developing presbyopia and all people become affected to some degree.[1]Around 25% of people (1.8 billion globally) are currently affected.[3]

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presbyopia

 

[eyalben]

Correct. I would assume it's making assumptions as to the placement and scaling of elements in the title bar.

Probably, but the rest are Apple to blame... like the invalid selection margins under "Help" in Spotify (there's no customizations)

 

[StellarVixen]

Only thing I don’t like about Big Sur is that there is waste of space everywhere. First I thought “ok, they are gonna introduce touchscreen Macs soon probably, so it figures” but then I read clear statement from Craig that they still don’t want to bring touch input to Mac. “What!” I thought to myself? Then why, just why did you make many elements so oversized and spaced away? It is just...unnecessary, and even takes moving mouse more than before.