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Dilster3k

macrumors 6502a
Jul 20, 2014
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Smoother experience, insanely great integration with other Apple devices and great ecosystem with iWork + iCloud.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
35,162
25,288
Gotta be in it to win it
No, sorry. While you are correct that the adjustments you speak of aren't yet native to iOS, they don't need to be post processed. The big deal is that they will be natively incorporated and shared to iOS 8 across all apps, rather than developers writing those features on their own. Like I said, digital photography does not use ISO like film cameras.

With digital photography, ISO is a procedure to increase or decrease camera sensitivity, not shutter speed. A developer is free to create an app that simulates shutter speed. It's a simulation, since digital photography doesn't really have a shutter like film photography, it is a increase or decrease of camera sensitivity.

http://www.digital-photo-secrets.com/tip/136/iso-explained/

Here is a screen capture from a camera app that allows for simple pre adjusting the camera settings pre-photo taking.

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Technically ISO is the amplification, because the light sensors sensitivity cannot be adjusted.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
Why would you pick iPhone over the Galaxy S5?

No, sorry. While you are correct that the adjustments you speak of aren't yet native to iOS, they don't need to be post processed. The big deal is that they will be natively incorporated and shared to iOS 8 across all apps, rather than developers writing those features on their own. Like I said, digital photography does not use ISO like film cameras.

With digital photography, ISO is a procedure to increase or decrease camera sensitivity, not shutter speed. A developer is free to create an app that simulates shutter speed. It's a simulation, since digital photography doesn't really have a shutter like film photography, it is a increase or decrease of camera sensitivity.

http://www.digital-photo-secrets.com/tip/136/iso-explained/

Here is a screen capture from a camera app that allows for simple pre adjusting the camera settings pre-photo taking.

Image


That link contradicts itself. ISO with film photography is the FILMS speed or it's sensitivity/speed of absorbing light. You can buy different sensitivity film independent of a cameras shutter and whether that's adjustable or not. They are two different things (shutter and film speed) and while it's possible to get similar effects they aren't one in the same.

With digital photography it is the sensors sensitivity to light. It's basically the same thing with a different media.

An app that has a setting to make any adjustments prior to the picture being taken isn't going to change anything about the picture. It's just a preview of the software effect that will be applied. It's no different then taking a black and white.

Like I pictured the ISO of an iPhone picture, you can't change that in iOS. You can have an app that gives the effect of an increase or decrease of ISO but once you pull the metadata you'll see its not actually changed. Unlike other cameras you can actually change this and it's reflected in the photo and it's metadata. Apple is opening the API's to allow this to not be locked to an auto setting.
 
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bigjnyc

macrumors G3
Apr 10, 2008
8,304
7,673
Galaxy is not even the best Crapdroid phone anymore. LG G3 seems to have taken over. I've seen a few mentions of this on tech sites and blogs... here is one example:

http://bgr.com/2014/07/24/lg-g3-review/


Anyway I could see why Samsung is getting desperate and attacking a phone that hasn't even come out in their ads.
 

mjschabow

macrumors 601
Dec 25, 2013
4,924
6,239
Coming from the HTC One M8, I can say that it was leaps and bounds above anything Samsung puts out.

I just wanted iOS more but I have to give HTC props for sure.
 

Namji

macrumors 6502a
Aug 13, 2010
627
20
One reason and one reason only... I enjoy using apples iOS better than android OS.
 

mjschabow

macrumors 601
Dec 25, 2013
4,924
6,239
Aside from extreme macro, and low light snaps (both at which it excels), the M8 camera is by far the worst of the bunch. Unarguably.

For what I needed, it was more than adequate. The total user experience was quite an upgrade over the S4. Out of fairness, I did not own the S5 other than playing with it in the store when I ultimately decided on the HTC One.
 

rockyroad55

macrumors 601
Jul 14, 2010
4,152
59
Phila, PA
It's actually a nobrainer if you already own more than one apple product. The ecosystem is so locked down that it makes everything so user friendly.
 

sunking101

macrumors 604
Sep 19, 2013
7,423
2,659
It's actually a nobrainer if you already own more than one apple product. The ecosystem is so locked down that it makes everything so user friendly.

The ecosystem when it comes to paid for apps I *totally* understand, but this 'seamless interaction with my Mac' guff baffles me. So what? What in cripes name is so important about your phone interacting with your Mac, and vice versa? I actually found this 'interaction' to be a supreme pain in the ass when I owned a Mac. I'd get iMessages on my Mac...annoying. I have a phone for that. I'd be amending a note on my Mac and accidentally delete a portion of it, or the whole note. Never mind I thought, there's a back-up on my iPhone. Whoops, no there isn't. iCloud has instantly 'interacted' and deleted that too.
 

FrozenInferno

macrumors 6502
Oct 27, 2013
272
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The ecosystem when it comes to paid for apps I *totally* understand, but this 'seamless interaction with my Mac' guff baffles me. So what? What in cripes name is so important about your phone interacting with your Mac, and vice versa? I actually found this 'interaction' to be a supreme pain in the ass when I owned a Mac. I'd get iMessages on my Mac...annoying. I have a phone for that. I'd be amending a note on my Mac and accidentally delete a portion of it, or the whole note. Never mind I thought, there's a back-up on my iPhone. Whoops, no there isn't. iCloud has instantly 'interacted' and deleted that too.

I enjoy the Apple ecosystem also but I don't like my iPhone interacting with my other devices either. My MacBook and iPad mini at home are shared with my wife who has her own Apple ID and we don't want our browser tabs syncing all over the place or our messages appearing on other devices. We don't use photo syncing or any of that either. I'm happy with wifi syncing between my iPhone and iTunes on the MacBook and iCloud backing up my devices and that's enough for me.

If I was single or each of us had our own personal Macs and iPads then I would use those features but in a shared family type setting we like our own privacy and don't want everything we're doing beamed all over the house all the time.
 

sunking101

macrumors 604
Sep 19, 2013
7,423
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I enjoy the Apple ecosystem also but I don't like my iPhone interacting with my other devices either. My MacBook and iPad mini at home are shared with my wife who has her own Apple ID and we don't want our browser tabs syncing all over the place or our messages appearing on other devices. We don't use photo syncing or any of that either. I'm happy with wifi syncing between my iPhone and iTunes on the MacBook and iCloud backing up my devices and that's enough for me.

If I was single or each of us had our own personal Macs and iPads then I would use those features but in a shared family type setting we like our own privacy and don't want everything we're doing beamed all over the house all the time.


Oh yeah, I forgot about the browser tab synching. I absolutely HATED that. In fact the more I think about it, the less I want any of my devices to interract. It's so easy to send something to another device if we need to, but this awful automatic synching business infuriates me.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
35,162
25,288
Gotta be in it to win it
Oh yeah, I forgot about the browser tab synching. I absolutely HATED that. In fact the more I think about it, the less I want any of my devices to interract. It's so easy to send something to another device if we need to, but this awful automatic synching business infuriates me.

I really love the browser tab synching in conjunction with iCloud Keychain. Since family has their own apple ids I get the same content on my iPad and iPhone.
 

uwdude

macrumors 6502a
Jul 16, 2014
921
469
I agree with others, the phone specs aren't the most important thing if everything else is done so well, like on the iPhone. And if I were going Android, my choice would be the HTC One M8 like others have said- it's the only one that really approaches the nice build quality of the iPhone. Samsung is cheap build quality, and OMG that Touchwiz overlay is annoying, along with all the gimmicky apps and Samsung "features".
 

Woochifer

macrumors 6502a
Apr 22, 2007
772
58
The ecosystem when it comes to paid for apps I *totally* understand, but this 'seamless interaction with my Mac' guff baffles me. So what? What in cripes name is so important about your phone interacting with your Mac, and vice versa? I actually found this 'interaction' to be a supreme pain in the ass when I owned a Mac. I'd get iMessages on my Mac...annoying. I have a phone for that. I'd be amending a note on my Mac and accidentally delete a portion of it, or the whole note. Never mind I thought, there's a back-up on my iPhone. Whoops, no there isn't. iCloud has instantly 'interacted' and deleted that too.

That depends on which parts of the ecosystem you're talking about. Since I use iTunes Match, the interaction between my Mac, work PC, and iPhone is a huge benefit. Digital music and video purchases, LP and CD transfers, playlist updates, tweaks to my iTunes Radio stations, etc. Anything that I add or change on one device will update on all others. That's important for me, because I don't usually store music or video on my phone but still want the ability to download specific files if I know I won't have network access for an extended time.

With my photos, contacts, and calendars, I prefer to work locally, and then sync the devices on my Mac. Works fine for what I do.
 

solaris

macrumors 6502a
Apr 19, 2004
706
98
Oslo, Norway
Because it fits in perfectly with the rest of my Apple lineup -> MacBook Air, iPad, Apple TV, Time capsule and AirPort Express'.
..and because iPhone is what my employer hand out. Hence I get it for free.
 

sunking101

macrumors 604
Sep 19, 2013
7,423
2,659
Because it fits in perfectly with the rest of my Apple lineup -> MacBook Air, iPad, Apple TV, Time capsule and AirPort Express'.
..and because iPhone is what my employer hand out. Hence I get it for free.

Does it fit in with your refrigerator, sofa and wardrobes?
 

Winona Northdakota

macrumors 6502a
Dec 27, 2010
580
1
Technically ISO is the amplification, because the light sensors sensitivity cannot be adjusted.


That's correct. Here's a quote from the link I posted:

"Rather than decrease the shutter speed, you can increase the ISO. As I said above, this will increase the sensitivity of the camera which means you can get the same shot with less light entering the camera."
 

Truefan31

macrumors 68040
Aug 25, 2012
3,589
835
Lol can we just say that obviously most people are choosing the iPhone 5s over the galaxy s5. 7 million for a 9 month old phone vs a 1-2 month phones 5 million. It's not hard to see.

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Does it fit in with your refrigerator, sofa and wardrobes?


Why is that not a good reason? If he likes his other apple products it's normal to assume he'd like an iPhone too.
 

sunking101

macrumors 604
Sep 19, 2013
7,423
2,659
Lol can we just say that obviously most people are choosing the iPhone 5s over the galaxy s5. 7 million for a 9 month old phone vs a 1-2 month phones 5 million. It's not hard to see.

I don't care about stats and what everyone else is buying though. A quick look at the music charts should show you that the masses have zero taste. That isn't a dig at the iPhone btw, I'm merely saying that just because X amount of people have bought a Nissan Qashqai, it doesn't make that the best vehicle for me if I'm in the market for a vehicle costing the same amount.
 

I7guy

macrumors Nehalem
Nov 30, 2013
35,162
25,288
Gotta be in it to win it
I don't care about stats and what everyone else is buying though. A quick look at the music charts should show you that the masses have zero taste. That isn't a dig at the iPhone btw, I'm merely saying that just because X amount of people have bought a Nissan Qashqai, it doesn't make that the best vehicle for me if I'm in the market for a vehicle costing the same amount.

I agree one hundred percent. You should always go with what is best for you. However, the stats tell an interesting story of what sells. I'm sure the CFOs of both companies are very interested in those stats, however.
 

Truefan31

macrumors 68040
Aug 25, 2012
3,589
835
Why would you pick iPhone over the Galaxy S5?

So the masses who prefer the iPhone are clueless now huh lol. Even though most agree the build quality is better on an iPhone, the os is more fluid, and the resale is higher, due in part cuz the masses keep the iPhone in high demand.

I don't think the masses who make cars #1 sellers are clueless. They know for the most part it's a quality item that will hold value well compared to it's competition.

The iPhone 6 will outsell the 5s just like every iPhone before it. There's a reason for that. And it's not cuz people are clueless.
 
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CEmajr

macrumors 601
Dec 18, 2012
4,483
1,296
Charlotte, NC
It's mostly just a debate of iOS vs Android, though if I went to Android it certainly wouldn't be a Samsung device. I'll try not to get into the OS comparison too much but in my opinion:

- Better Camera
- Better performance (faster, smoother. Touchwiz is a mess), The iPhone has been "buttery smooth" since the beginning, closest thing to that on Android is the Nexus, not Samsung and their bloat.
- The ecosystem: Messages, Photos, Safari web browsing, iTunes, all synced across my iPhone/iPad/Macbook. This is where Samsung, Microsoft, and other companies are so far behind Apple that it's ridiculous. Their products vary widely and are all over the place while Apple has created a tightly knit, integrated system across their product lines.
- Battery life. From my experience the iPhone still gives superior battery life to the Androids I've used except for the Motorola Razr series and Note. If you turn off all the settings and tweaks that are supposed to make Android so great then I suppose you could get your battery life to equal the iPhone
- Reliability/Customer Support: Apple has tons of stores all over. Even if your iPhone happens to be out of warranty you can still take it to an Apple store and they'll diagnose your problem for free and attempt to fix it for you. If it's beyond fixable then you are offered an out of warranty replacement right there on the spot without having to drop $649 for another one. Your Galaxy S5 past that one year mark? Then pull out your credit card and fork over that $600+ for a new one. Besides that, good luck even getting an Android OEM to acknowledge your problem if the device is over a year old. There are no stores either so it's a mail-in and wait type thing.
- Last of all, it sounds cliche but everything just works. New iPhone comes out, I just restore from my old backup of the previous model and everything is there again just as it was. Been doing this since the iPhone 3G. Still have messages that go back to 2008 on here. Android still lacks that type of full backup system in 2014 that Apple already had in 2008. Right out of the box the music, messages, web, photos, etc. do their job. When I used Android the out of box experience was clunky and I had to dig through and find third party apps and tweak various settings before finally getting the device to an optimal state. I don't feel like tinkering with and modding my phone, I prefer it to just work.
 
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