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Will 10.5” support USB 3 speeds now at least?
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Dude I still got to wait 2 weeks before Apple releases the new 10.5" iPads in my country.
To those who are trying...
1. Use Apple original USB-C to Lightning cable only
2. Use any PC or mac that has USB-C 3.1 Gen2 Port capable of 10 Gbps speed. (Intel or ASMedia port)
3. Open iTunes and authorise your iPad
4. Drag drop a big MP4 file from windows or macOS to iTunes -> your iPad
Use stopwatch to measure time required to copy over files.
Report the following two things here
1. The file size of the MP4
2. The time shown by your stopwatch.
We can calculate average transfer speed.
I connected my 10.5" iPad Pro to my Late 2016 15" MacBook Pro using an Apple USB-C - Lightning cable, and no matter which port I tried, it only negotiated 480Mbit over the cable.
Apple did explicitly say it supported USB 3 speed in the keynote, but only with certain accessories that allow you to connect USB devices to the iPad, like the USB 3 camera connection kit. I own that cable, and it's noticeably thicker than this USB-C cable I have here.
It's possible that there needs to be a new USB-C cable that supports the higher speeds. It's also possible that the iPad only supports USB 3 speed when it's in host mode (i.e., you connect USB devices to it), falling back to USB 2 when in slave mode (i.e., you connect it as a USB device to a computer).
Apple did explicitly say it supported USB 3 speed in the keynote, but only with certain accessories that allow you to connect USB devices to the iPad, like the USB 3 camera connection kit. I own that cable, and it's noticeably thicker than this USB-C cable I have here.
It's possible that there needs to be a new USB-C cable that supports the higher speeds. It's also possible that the iPad only supports USB 3 speed when it's in host mode (i.e., you connect USB devices to it), falling back to USB 2 when in slave mode (i.e., you connect it as a USB device to a computer).
Apple is just being stupid and considers their customers to be stupid too. This is highly insulting as an Apple user. USB 3 has been around for more than 5 years and they still cannot implement it? The worst part is the tech blogs and those starbuckes coffee sipping smug reviewers give a pass at this issue.
Well, based on your screenshot it looks like a power issue. USB 3 data transfer requires 900 mA (milliamps) at 5 V (Volts) according to this page on Apple:
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204377
Makes me wonder if you need external power to be able to have full USB3 speeds, something like the USB3 to SD adapter with an external power source connected? I know it doesn't necessarily solve the iTunes problem, just curious.
While it is annoying not to have the feature, I'd really only need it for iTunes backup and restore. That's pretty much just initial setup, firmware updates and eventual device upgrade.
Most of the time, I'll be downloading over wifi and the network connection is a major bottleneck. I don't think you can even download comics to your desktop with comiXology.
Maybe it is true that one needs that speed for backup, etc.
But 1k for such backward technology is mind boggling
This is so. But it's bait & switch at this point. They had better do something
I smell a 'gate'
The power argument seems reasonable. That's still no excuse for anything
I doubt power is the issue. Iirc, 900mA is part of the USB 3.0 spec so reputable hardware manufacturers should support it (e.g. motherboard ports, etc). It's only third party accessories (e.g. unpowered hubs) where support gets iffy.
I have a Seagate Backup Plus Fast 4TB (2x2TB) Portable External Hard Drive and have no trouble powering that with my 4-year old laptop with built-in USB 3.0 port (iirc, Panther Point/Ivy Bridge or Lynx Point/Haswell).
Scroll up... Someone DID sync with a 2016 mbp using USB C.
USB2 Speeds as a result.
Looks like it's the cable that's the problem. Hilarious.
Solution: Apples USB3 camera adapter to USB A/C to the computer. I bet that will work.
No
Not quite sure, becasue the current availabe was 500 mA. Looking at the iPhone7 connected to my Macbook Pro 15 (2014 model), there is 1000mA available but the iPhone is requesting 500.
Here is how mine looks. All speculation though, I dont have the USB3 cable to test.
Not quite sure, becasue the current availabe was 500 mA. Looking at the iPhone7 connected to my Macbook Pro 15 (2014 model), there is 1000mA available but the iPhone is requesting 500.
Here is how mine looks. All speculation though, I dont have the USB3 cable to test.
Waste of time to push back against pseudo geek rage. Specs don't matter to them,
From Apple support page:
The USB-C to Lightning Cable supports data transfer at up to USB 2.0 (480 Mbps) speeds.
Alert the media!
Actually, I'm serious. We need to bring this to someone's attention.
Actually, I'm serious. We need to bring this to someone's attention.
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Should Apple be criticized for this decision? Yes, absolutely. I've been hoping to see USB 3.0 since the release of the iPad 4. That's when sequential performance started exceeding USB 2.0 at least for higher capacities.Waste of time to push back against pseudo geek rage. Specs don't matter to them,
From Apple support page:
The USB-C to Lightning Cable supports data transfer at up to USB 2.0 (480 Mbps) speeds.
However, I'm not gonna boycott buying iOS devices for lack of USB 3.0 when they work well for 99% of my iOS usage.
This right here is a pure apologetic reply.
If Apple can't implement 5 yr old USB 3 technology over lightning, then it is high time they dump their proprietary lightning port. They should go for something universal and spec compliant like USB-C port on their mobiles and tablets.
Sorry guys, don't want to read you all, just tell me does it support USB 3 speed connection for transferring my huge back up (250 GB) from my laptop USB 3 port to New iPP 12.9" 512 GB?