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leman

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If you were truly "pro," you would very much care about costs. I don't know any corporation that doesn't care about costs.

Sure. And of course, any corporation who hires highly paid qualified professionals will also get them rusty cheap tools to save money ;)
 

Rafterman

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You’re talking about corporations buying cheap Windows boxes in contempt of their employees. I’m talking about professionals you want to keep, because they’re irreplaceable.

In contempt of their employees? Are you serious? That sounds pretty entitled. No, they buy what gets the job done at the best price. These aren't personal toys for the employees to spec-chase over.

The university I work for buys us new a new laptop and a new desktop every three years. Dell or Apple, our choice. I do RDP and emailing. So they bought me a Macbook Pro with 512GB/16GB RAM. They aren't going to spend $6000 to buy an 8TB/64GB just to give me a free toy. I'm sure students would love to hear their tuition is higher so I can have an overpowered machine. They buy what gets the job done. It's called corperate repsonsibility.
 
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leman

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The university I work for buys us new a new laptop and a new desktop every three years. Dell or Apple, our choice. I do RDP and emailing. So they bought me a Macbook Pro with 512GB/16GB RAM. They aren't going to spend $6000 to buy an 8TB/64GB just to give me a free toy. I'm sure students would love to hear their tuition is higher so I can have an overpowered machine. They buy what gets the job done. It's called corperate repsonsibility.

But they are also not going to buy you a Chromebook (which would probably also get the job done), right? We are not talking here about buying ludicrous specs for no reason at all, but about reasonable tools. What you describe is reasonable. But I've also had to deal with universities that would claim that 250 euros is plenty enough for a monitor for a professor.
 
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Rafterman

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But they are also not going to buy you a Chromebook (which would probably also get the job done), right? We are not talking here about buying ludicrous specs for no reason at all, but about reasonable tools. What you describe is reasonable. But I've also had to deal with universities that would claim that 250 euros is plenty enough for a monitor for a professor.

We have contracts with Dell and Apple. Many have a need to run different OS's on the same hardware (e.g., Linux).

Why isn't 250 enough? 27 inch monitor, what more do they need? It's for work, not gaming.

Some of you are confusing "want" with "need."
 

bobcomer

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Sure. And of course, any corporation who hires highly paid qualified professionals will also get them rusty cheap tools to save money ;)
No, they wouldn't, but they wouldn't overbuy for the job either. For most workers an i5 in a tiny desktop is more than enough. For the bosses, an i7 and 16G and 32G RAM, for IT, i7, 32G RAM, though I do have my own resources at home. :)

There is *nobody* in the building that would benefit job-wise from anything faster. People talk about computer performance, i.e. cpu and arch around here like it's everything, but just about everything that's well provisioned is faster than a worker can work these days. Obviously anything that needs lots of CPU/GPU needs more, but *most* people don't need that in places where I work these days, and nobody does where I currently work. Not a discrete GPU in the building...
 
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Rafterman

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"The 50TB edition (EDDCT020/EDDCS050) costing $12,500 ($250 per TB)".

So 4'000 bucks for 16TB. I'm totally fine with that!

Apple's 8TB is $2,000. And we all know that the larger you go, the price goes up exponentially. So, figure 6,000. If it's even possible any time soon, with the internal layout and heat control.

Unicorns...
 

enb141

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Hi, I know that macs minimum that are for sale come with 8GB/256GB which is loooow for a 2023 computer, I know you can upgrade them (before buying them) but that would cost +$400 so I would like to know if you now when apple will release macs with 16GB/512GB as minimum?
 
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spnc

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Apple's 8TB is $2,000. And we all know that the larger you go, the price goes up exponentially. So, figure 6,000. If it's even possible any time soon, with the internal layout and heat control.

Unicorns...

For now maybe, but 1-3 years ahead max for sure, it's not such a big deal in terms of tech, and when it will be mature price will go down exponentially the other way round like it is now and has always been the case for lower volumes
 

thenewperson

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Hi, I know that macs minimum that are for sale come with 8GB/256GB which is loooow for a 2023 computer, I know you can upgrade them (before buying them) but that would cost +$400 so I would like to know if you now when apple will release macs with 16GB/512GB as minimum?

Never.
 

coffeemilktea

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Hi, I know that macs minimum that are for sale come with 8GB/256GB which is loooow for a 2023 computer, I know you can upgrade them (before buying them) but that would cost +$400 so I would like to know if you now when apple will release macs with 16GB/512GB as minimum?
At the rate Apple is going... maybe 2030. :p

Dear old Tim's going to keep giving you the least amount of memory possible for as long as he can get away with it. :apple:
 
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Rafterman

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For now maybe, but 1-3 years ahead max for sure, it's not such a big deal in terms of tech, and when it will be mature price will go down exponentially the other way round like it is now and has always been the case for lower volumes

I'm not sure about that. I bought an 8TB NVME in 2020 (Sabrent), it was around $1,200. It's still that same price today on Amazon, so the prices don't seem to be coming down. Not on the high capacity stuff at least.
 

leman

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Hi, I know that macs minimum that are for sale come with 8GB/256GB which is loooow for a 2023 computer, I know you can upgrade them (before buying them) but that would cost +$400 so I would like to know if you now when apple will release macs with 16GB/512GB as minimum?

When the rest of the industry does, but we slowly see some fluctuation there. Probably by 2025.
 
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