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ZircoBen

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Jul 12, 2015
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Hi, I know that macs minimum that are for sale come with 8GB/256GB which is loooow for a 2023 computer, I know you can upgrade them (before buying them) but that would cost +$400 so I would like to know if you now when apple will release macs with 16GB/512GB as minimum?
It'll be awhile; especially on the MacBook Air. I imagine it'll take another 2-3 years.
 

brucewayne

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Nov 8, 2005
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Hi, I know that macs minimum that are for sale come with 8GB/256GB which is loooow for a 2023 computer, I know you can upgrade them (before buying them) but that would cost +$400 so I would like to know if you now when apple will release macs with 16GB/512GB as minimum?

Standard? When it is needed for for the tasks base model macs are targeted for.
 
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enb141

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Sep 17, 2008
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Well pretty much all mayor models of the rest of manufacturers now offer 16/512 as base (Alienware, Razer, etc.)

So that's why I was asking this question.

Maybe my question should be related about when they started offering 8/256 as base from 4/128
 

mysticmanix

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May 30, 2021
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Hi, I know that macs minimum that are for sale come with 8GB/256GB which is loooow for a 2023 computer, I know you can upgrade them (before buying them) but that would cost +$400 so I would like to know if you now when apple will release macs with 16GB/512GB as minimum?
2028 when a single Chrome tab will require 8 gigs of memory
 

spnc

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Nov 19, 2021
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I'm not sure about that. I bought an 8TB NVME in 2020 (Sabrent), it was around $1,200. It's still that same price today on Amazon, so the prices don't seem to be coming down. Not on the high capacity stuff at least.

Because like I said it's only a matter of time. And the time hasn't come just yet. These things go by cycles, rather swiftly.

In a near future the lower capacity SSDs will be made redundant and, as higher volumes become more accessible, as customers need increase, as manufacturers extend their specs to meet demands and differentiate themselves, and as suppliers follow suit, the retail prices will starting coming down. Economics 101.
 
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leman

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Oct 14, 2008
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The rest except ultra cheap previous gen are already moved.

Not really. Premium ultraportable laptops still mostly come with 8/256 base configuration. You can actually find 16/512 more frequently on the budget models because they use much cheaper and significantly slower parts.
 
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JPack

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Mar 27, 2017
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You can pick up an SMB-level ThinkBook with 6800H, 16GB LPDDR5, and 512GB PCIe Gen4 for about $700.

Cost-wise, Apple can already do it today. But due to marketing and margins, I think Apple will wait until 2025-2027 to do it. That's about the time when iPhone comes with >8GB RAM.
 
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Lounge vibes 05

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May 30, 2016
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It’ll happen if and when Apple starts to feel that macOS on 8GB of Ram might begin to become unusable.
they kept a 5400 RPM hard drive in the iMac until 2021, 5 years after APFS (which was literally built for SSDs) had become standard in macOS.
They will keep that standard until they are just forced to change it by everything else.
A better question is, will they do a half step? The M2 introduced a 24 GB of RAM option, could the M3 introduce a 12 GB option? I think it’s possible, the iPad was on 6GB for a couple years so it’s not like this would be the first time.
So I do think that is a possibility, systems starting with 12/256 later this year.
16/512 I think is still 2 to 3 years away, maybe the M5 or M6
 
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Rafterman

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It’ll happen if and when Apple starts to feel that macOS on 8GB of Ram might begin to become unusable.
they kept a 5400 RPM hard drive in the iMac until 2021, 5 years after APFS (which was literally built for SSDs) had become standard in macOS.
They will keep that standard until they are just forced to change it by everything else.
A better question is, will they do a half step? The M2 introduced a 24 GB of RAM option, could the M3 introduce a 12 GB option? I think it’s possible, the iPad was on 6GB for a couple years so it’s not like this would be the first time.
So I do think that is a possibility, systems starting with 12/256 later this year.
16/512 I think is still 2 to 3 years away, maybe the M5 or M6

All I know is, whenever we try to guess what Apple will do, we are wrong 99 percent of the time.
 

AdamBuker

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Mar 1, 2018
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What I really want is a ram/storage configuration of 69/420… for umm… professional reasons. Yeah.
 
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MrGunny94

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Dec 3, 2016
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It’ll happen if and when Apple starts to feel that macOS on 8GB of Ram might begin to become unusable.
they kept a 5400 RPM hard drive in the iMac until 2021, 5 years after APFS (which was literally built for SSDs) had become standard in macOS.
They will keep that standard until they are just forced to change it by everything else.
A better question is, will they do a half step? The M2 introduced a 24 GB of RAM option, could the M3 introduce a 12 GB option? I think it’s possible, the iPad was on 6GB for a couple years so it’s not like this would be the first time.
So I do think that is a possibility, systems starting with 12/256 later this year.
16/512 I think is still 2 to 3 years away, maybe the M5 or M6
They will always try to make as much revenue as possible.. It will take care a couple of years. With DDR5 speeds and fast SSDs to swap it helps them in this case.

We just saw them saving money on SSDs with the M2 lineup..
 
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Analog Kid

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Mar 4, 2003
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Hi, I know that macs minimum that are for sale come with 8GB/256GB which is loooow for a 2023 computer, I know you can upgrade them (before buying them) but that would cost +$400 so I would like to know if you now when apple will release macs with 16GB/512GB as minimum?

This is already the case. The M2 Pro Mini comes with 16/512 as minimum:
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Abazigal

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This is already the case. The M2 Pro Mini comes with 16/512 as minimum:
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That’s the thing though. When people say they want more ram and storage, they really mean that they want more specs for the same base price. The Mac Mini Pro is priced accordingly (ie: want more, pay more), which for them, defeats the entire point.
 

Analog Kid

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Mar 4, 2003
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That’s the thing though. When people say they want more ram and storage, they really mean that they want more specs for the same base price. The Mac Mini Pro is priced accordingly (ie: want more, pay more), which for them, defeats the entire point.
Until people say what they mean and stop trying to wrap it in obtuse language, I'm going to answer the question that is asked.
 

enb141

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Sep 17, 2008
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That’s the thing though. When people say they want more ram and storage, they really mean that they want more specs for the same base price. The Mac Mini Pro is priced accordingly (ie: want more, pay more), which for them, defeats the entire point.

Exactly, right now you can get a mac with 32GB/4TB but at what price?
 

Analog Kid

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Analog Kid

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With that money I can build a PC with 64/1TB SSD + 8TB HD, Core i9 and probably still enough money left for a 4090
Yes, money is fungible. A quick search tells me you could also spend it on a Canon RF 85mm f/1.2 lens, or a 2008 Ford Crown Vic, or Fender George Harrison rosewood Tele.

That's the nice thing about money. You can choose what to spend it on.
 
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