When did a Galaxy S3 become a Nexus phone??? We were discussing Nexus devices.
Most people use Odin for Samsung devices, which is slightly more complex than using fastboot commands to unlock/root/rom.
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Will Android L keep you on Android?
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Most people use Odin for Samsung devices, which is slightly more complex than using fastboot commands to unlock/root/rom.
since i bought my Nexus 5, i know my future devices will be Nexuse s till Google decides to stop (i hope they don't).
the only problem i have is the screen size, 5" is a bit big, 4,7" would be perfect FOR ME, but i like this phone so much that i can handle with it.
and Android L of course won't change my mind!!
the only problem i have is the screen size, 5" is a bit big, 4,7" would be perfect FOR ME, but i like this phone so much that i can handle with it.
and Android L of course won't change my mind!!
I was reponding to the discussion about rooting devices. Perhaps the process of rooting a Nexus is different and simpler. From the other poster, rooting a Nexus seemed to be as complex as rooting a GS3. I just don't feel rooting in general is that simple.
So you want to make it so getting to an app requires you to press the "app drawer" button and then find it in the list and then press it instead of just pressing the icon from your home screen?
Seriously? What is so exciting about your wallpaper that you want to remove the icons?
There's a reason nobody uses Launchpad in OS X. Because app drawers are pretty much dumb.
Except nobody keeps all of their apps on a single home screen and even if they do, that means they're in folders, thus requiring at least one more touch, possibly more as only 9 apps are visible per page within the folder. Anything more than 24 apps will require at least one additional touch.
On Android, using a launcher that allows for a vertical scroll means I can open any app with 3 touches at most (one for app launcher, one to scroll, one to touch app to open). It also means I don't have to remember exactly where I placed it on my home screens as I have them listed alphabetically. Another benefit of the app drawer method is that it allows for placement of widgets on the home screen with may preclude even requiring an app be opened at all, something that can't be done on iOS at all.
And I use Launchpad all the time on my Macs--a touchpad gesture and a couple quick keystrokes means I quickly launch any application I've installed--quicker than just about any other method.
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Rooting a Nexus is very, very simple. Download 2 files (one being the recovery image) and type in 2 lines of code (with the first being "fastboot oem unlock"). It is literally a 30 second affair. And of course there are one click Nexus toolkits to do everything for you. I just prefer doing things myself and learning adb/fastboot commands, because nothing goes wrong that way.
Rooting a Samsung is only slightly more complex because of Odin.
The most difficult phone to UNroot and return to stock is the HTC One. HTC did everything in their power to make it a PIA!
App drawers are why I switched to Android. Who wants a cluttered mess of apps and folders and never being able to find anything? And calling it dumb is moronic....when every other organization system uses date/alphabet or some custom system. Not just....**** everywhere.
Android L looks good, but it hasn't swayed me from going back to iOS in September.
As good as the Nexus has been for me, I'm looking forward to getting back onto an all Apple ecosystem.
As good as the Nexus has been for me, I'm looking forward to getting back onto an all Apple ecosystem.
How do you not find anything? I use my iPad every day and I know exactly where everything is...
It's called being dramatic and reaching to justify his preference. The iOS interface can be as organized as you like especially if you use folders. I think Apple may have hit the sweet spot by just having the notification window serving up widgets versus dumping it on the main screens.
Not saying that. I think that the approach Apple took by locking widgets to the pull down notification slide is an intelligent one. We are allowed to have different preferences right?
That's how I took it when you stated "versus dumping it on the main screens". Yes we are allowed to have different preferences, which is why I don't see why Apple wouldn't allow more choices. Don't you think having the choice of having widgets on notification center or the home screen would be better than limiting to just the notification center?
In Apple's case, I don't believe they see it that way. As long as the widgets are limited to what Apple allows within the UI, they can control how it effects CPU processes and RAM. (They don't have to worry about 3rd party code inadvertantly screwing anything up. By that I mean either allowing 3rd party widgets onto the homescreen or having 3rd party apps effecting Apple's homegrown widgets, assuming those widgets were allowed onto the homescreen, that is. All widgets are housed within the notification center and therefore segregated.)
They want to ensure the UI 'looks' smooth and that the battery life is not effected. Consumer use and desires are secondary.
See I agreed with you up until your last sentence. It's was so beautiful then you got nasty and we need to get some wet wipes!
I don't think most people care about widgets. I think a lot of techie folks do but average users are content with Apple providing a polished product and top shelf user experience. I think Apple thought about why folks use widgets and decided a perfect place for them that would not hamper user experience. While Apple does its share of copying, I think they take their time and make sure it makes sense before they implement a feature.
I believe they can achieve all of that while allowing widgets on home screens as proven with jailbroken home screen widgets. And as proven on Android. I'm not saying they should duplicate how Android handles it, but iOS does need a change of just having an app draw for it home screens. Even if they can just allow only the first home screen to have widgets, it would prove useful.
Yea, I agree. Apple is stuck on uniformity.
No. I don't want to clone Android, I want Apple to implement features that make sense in a way that enhances the experience. I don't want widgets across 5 different home screens on my Galaxy S3. Think about the experience on Android for widgets. only so many can fit on a home screen then you have to flip through to get to others if you set them up on other screens. Now look at the Apple approach, slide your finger down to get access to quick info and widgets. Scroll if you have a lot. It just makes sense.
Read my above reply to Lloydbm41. Stop thinking about Android when talking widgets.
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I believe Apple can as well. What I don't believe is that Apple believes they can control 3rd party app code enough to ensure a consistent and unaffected UI. Hence, sand boxing the widgets within the NC.
Regarding jail breaking, I did it all the time. Unfortunately you get code from one tweak that can effect the code of other tweaks producing a lot of force closures and even soft restarts or lockups.
I believe Apple can as well. What I don't believe is that Apple believes they can control 3rd party app code enough to ensure a consistent and unaffected UI. Hence, sand boxing the widgets within the NC.
Regarding jail breaking, I did it all the time. Unfortunately you get code from one tweak that can effect the code of other tweaks producing a lot of force closures and even soft restarts or lockups.
Boy if you want those things I can't imagine what you'll be doing with an iPhone. I remember being perplexed at my iPhone more than once because Skype made the entire system come to a complete stop and I couldn't make it reboot. As for fast updates, let's see...
Oh and I guess if what you want is pretty animations versus full flexibility then sure I guess the iPhone is up your alley. Oh wait, I forgot, iOS is finally allowing some third party plugins after spending the last few years claiming it was bad for security. Good stuff.
Boy if you want those things I can't imagine what you'll be doing with an iPhone. I remember being perplexed at my iPhone more than once because Skype made the entire system come to a complete stop and I couldn't make it reboot. As for fast updates, let's see...
Oh and I guess if what you want is pretty animations versus full flexibility then sure I guess the iPhone is up your alley. Oh wait, I forgot, iOS is finally allowing some third party plugins after spending the last few years claiming it was bad for security. Good stuff.
Microsoft makes Skype. Microsoft is a competitor to Apple. Skype is also known as a serious battery draining app. It's crappy code and it's a third party app from a competitor that makes the iPhone experience crappy. People like you who can't see the forrest through the trees blame Apple which is exactly what Microsoft would want. Have you started shopping for a Windows phone yet?
Microsoft makes Skype. Microsoft is a competitor to Apple. Skype is also known as a serious battery draining app. It's crappy code and it's a third party app from a competitor that makes the iPhone experience crappy. People like you who can't see the forrest through the trees blame Apple which is exactly what Microsoft would want. Have you started shopping for a Windows phone yet?
Skype has been around for 10-11 years. Microsoft has only owned it for a couple years while making some changes along the way.
Microsoft makes Skype. Microsoft is a competitor to Apple. Skype is also known as a serious battery draining app. It's crappy code and it's a third party app from a competitor that makes the iPhone experience crappy. People like you who can't see the forrest through the trees blame Apple which is exactly what Microsoft would want. Have you started shopping for a Windows phone yet?
You have any source for that? I've been a heavy Skype user for over a decade and had no problems with it on any mobile OS.
So for battery drain issues, I have read it often in these very forums and as recent as last week. Here is a link to another site that claims it as well:
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Regarding actual issues with the Skype app, just look above to poster I was responding too. Clearly he is having some issues with Skype on his phone.