I have to pick my 13” M4 with two hands to keep mine from flopping like a wet dishcloth. 😮
Concentrating the force in a tiny little spot seems a bit unnecessary. A wider point of impact would have been much more useful, and replicated backpack use/an accidental sitting incident on the sofa.
He didn’t bend the samsung tablet the same way as he did this one though. He only tested s8 ultra
Seems the structural integrity goes one way... while Apple forgot to reinforce the edge with the charger port. Come on Apple, if Samsung can do it, so can you...
Even one little strip of titanium one cm or so back from the charger port would help a lot.
I only watched the s8 ultra vid. Which Samsung tablet are you thinking of? Is the S8 not comparable to the new Pro?He didn’t bend the samsung tablet the same way as he did this one though. He only tested s8 ultra
S8 ultra is from 2022I only watched the s8 ultra vid. Which Samsung tablet are you thinking of? Is the S8 not comparable to the new Pro?
No one here is that stupid, and no one here has suggested that.This obsession with Apple making a device that’s absolutely impervious to any degree of damage is frankly absurd.
I’m being hyperbolic, but channels like JerryRig exist to reflect the obsession. Where are the videos of everyday use resulting in bent, or not bent, iPads? No, we watch, discuss, and share videos of people putting their devices through extreme stress tests. And why? Because of some obsession with durability. And fair enough we want strong and reliable devices — but they are strong and reliable devices. My observation is simply, why are we not content knowing that they’re already strong and reliable? We’ve seen a video of someone forcing 95lbs onto their iPad. We’ve seen a video of a lighter being held to the screen for a minute, of grown adults forcibly trying to bend and crack them.No one here is that stupid, and no one here has suggested that.
We want to know how strong and reliable they are, and what changes there are from one generation to the next. You don’t know that until you test it. And knowing is better than guessing or believing.My observation is simply, why are we not content knowing that they’re already strong and reliable?
Because that’s not a reliable test and the outcome depends on a thousand factors.Why aren’t these people putting the iPad on the couch and sitting on it? Or putting it on the floor and letting the dog walk on it?
I’m not against testing, but what is the real-world utility of someone trying to bend it with their hands? You can’t tell me that’s a reliable test whose outcome isn’t dependent on multiple factors, nor that “a 200lb man who can bench press 175lbs bending the iPad to cracking point means it will, no problem, be okay if you sit on it.”We want to know how strong and reliable they are, and what changes there are from one generation to the next. You don’t know that until you test it. And knowing is better than guessing or believing.
Because that’s not a reliable test and the outcome depends on a thousand factors.
It's a bit hard to show a video of it being put in a backpack on 900 occasions. I think it would be fair to ask companies to stick reinforcement in their tablets BEFORE getting attacking for bending issues online. Finally Apple has reached the point where reinforcement in one direction is present, but still not the other. Apple only fixed the iPhone bending problems when it became a newsworthy problem. If everyone always kept quiet they wouldn't make these improvements.I’m being hyperbolic, but channels like JerryRig exist to reflect the obsession. Where are the videos of everyday use resulting in bent, or not bent, iPads? No, we watch, discuss, and share videos of people putting their devices through extreme stress tests. And why? Because of some obsession with durability. And fair enough we want strong and reliable devices — but they are strong and reliable devices. My observation is simply, why are we not content knowing that they’re already strong and reliable? We’ve seen a video of someone forcing 95lbs onto their iPad. We’ve seen a video of a lighter being held to the screen for a minute, of grown adults forcibly trying to bend and crack them.
Nobody does it in real life, and none of the “testers” actually say how that translates to a real-world scenario. Why aren’t these people putting the iPad on the couch and sitting on it? Or putting it on the floor and letting the dog walk on it? Or putting it in a backpack and going out for the day — “vlogs” are hugely popular these days so there’s no reason not to do this. These videos would be way more informative to the rest of us.
I did prefer the other test with the weights. But Jerry’s hands are at least a halfway reproducible test. The utility is that you learn how the new models differ from the previous models. It’s reassuring that the thinness of the new models haven’t made them significantly more prone to bending. You get a better feeling which level of stress will lead to damage. And for example we learn in which directions the iPad is more resilient to bending. You might choose to place it in bags accordingly.I’m not against testing, but what is the real-world utility of someone trying to bend it with their hands?
I think if people are worried and take it out the house AC+ does make the most senseIt's hard to tell how he'll fare in backpacks and with the occasional errant sit on a bed/sofa. I'm sure forums will let us know. Just a pity Apple didn't bother to reinforce the bottom at all, where the charger port is.
It's a bit hard to show a video of it being put in a backpack on 900 occasions. I think it would be fair to ask companies to stick reinforcement in their tablets BEFORE getting attacking for bending issues online. Finally Apple has reached the point where reinforcement in one direction is present, but still not the other. Apple only fixed the iPhone bending problems when it became a newsworthy problem. If everyone always kept quiet they wouldn't make these improvements.
I did prefer the other test with the weights. But Jerry’s hands are at least a halfway reproducible test. The utility is that you learn how the new models differ from the previous models. It’s reassuring that the thinness of the new models haven’t made them significantly more prone to bending. You get a better feeling which level of stress will lead to damage. And for example we learn in which directions the iPad is more resilient to bending. You might choose to place it in bags accordingly.
It's hard to tell how he'll fare in backpacks and with the occasional errant sit on a bed/sofa. I'm sure forums will let us know. Just a pity Apple didn't bother to reinforce the bottom at all, where the charger port is.
That's only to and from college, and either side of lunch, for 1 year, roughly.Sorry but if it requires 900 occasions in a backpack to get damaged then there isn’t a problem.
I wasn’t suggesting that nobody would do it 900 times, but that it’s an unlikely scenario. When the problems emerged with the iPhone bending, or the “holding it wrong” antenna issue, it didn’t take a year or 900 uses for it to happen.That's only to and from college, and either side of lunch, for 1 year, roughly.
Wow! That is disappointing! The fact you had it in a keyboard folio makes it even more worrisome. I was kind of counting on the Magic Keyboard for my M4 13” iPad Pro would be protected from bends.I guess it’s not just the Pro that we needed to worry about having bending issues…
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This is my iPad Air, less than two weeks old, and it hasn’t been anywhere that might have put a lot of pressure on it, aside from maybe my backpack, but every time I’ve put it there it’s been inside the keyboard. It does just seem to be the bottom edge, not the whole tablet, but it’s *very* noticeable, especially when putting it on a flat surface and doing a wobble test.
This is definitely not normal, right?
It's hard to tell how he'll fare in backpacks and with the occasional errant sit on a bed/sofa. I'm sure forums will let us know. Just a pity Apple didn't bother to reinforce the bottom at all, where the charger port is.