They never forget about the prices... There are no mistakes there...
About nMP's second iteration probably they forgot.
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Will there be a new Mac Pro in 2015?
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About nMP's second iteration probably they forgot.
My point is that price should not be a deciding factor. You don't know what $5000 really means to a nMP purchaser. Apple has always been the expensive choice. So your argument is really more a reflection on your finances. Question, if the old MP are so upgradeable why did you buy a 2012? Why didn't you keep upgrading?
Completely disagree on the phone thing. It's a phone and it's primary functionality hasn't change. If a phone is your status symbol, then you definitely could not afford a $600 phone to begin with.
Fine, keep buying Mac Pros as a status symbol. If prices and performance are not a deciding factor for you, well then you are not buying these machines from a business stand point and more like a luxury item, like the iphone. I depend on the OS and its proprietary software.
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I just Geekbenched my 5,1 / 3.46GHz / 12-core / 64GB RAM - it registered 2795 single-core / 31,608 multi-core.
I paid under $3K for the system, which included the RAM and an Nvidia GTX 680.
Very pleased with the system AND the price. No need for an overpriced nMP here.
Sure hope the rumor that AMD will not be able to source HBM2 chips next year is just that, a rumor.
Otherwise they're doomed for sure.
A 4GB card with HBM1 will hardly qualify as mid range, maybe they can do a high end HBM2 card.
Just to think they gave NVidia HBM2 in a platter just not to be able to come through with their own cards and get beaten by the green team is just too bad.
Otherwise they're doomed for sure.
A 4GB card with HBM1 will hardly qualify as mid range, maybe they can do a high end HBM2 card.
Just to think they gave NVidia HBM2 in a platter just not to be able to come through with their own cards and get beaten by the green team is just too bad.
A real professional knows a computer is a computer. There's not a lot of difference between them when you get down to it. So what about form factor? Own a laptop? If so, you spent more money for less power just so you could take it with you. Sound familiar? Just look at the cost of computing power on the iPhone. Really expensive.
Now we have a portable workstation that you can take with you(without breaking your back). That alone will be worth something for a lot of professionals...just like it was in laptops. You maybe not. Me. Give me the same power as a really nice tower in the size of the nMP. Silent too boot. I'm in.
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Swapped the late 2013 imac ( maxed out ) against the late 2013 mac pro base model.
There is a HUGE difference. iMac overheats easily and is extremely loud while rendering.
benchmarks definitely don't tell the whole story.
Well, I just upgraded my cMP 2009 to El Capitan, and the GTX 770 has Metal support
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Exactly. Under sustained heavy load the iMac will throttle back and sounds like a hairdryer.
On single task CPU operations the iMac is faster than the 4-core nMP, but the moment you switch to 64bit multicore operations or the GPU kicks in it's game over for the iMac. Especially when it comes to GPU processing even the D300 nMP will smoke the iMac and won't fry itself in sustained operations.
Well, I just upgraded my cMP 2009 to El Capitan, and the GTX 770 has Metal support
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This rings true with me. I have seen quite a bit of that in music and entertainment.
Right, I think most professionals are aware that running a multi core workstation requires lots of ram (I'm using 24 gigs for my 8 cores), but it is then questionable why Apple offers them at such low stock quantities in the first place?
Its fine if you have other reasons why you don't like/want the new Mac Pro. But then you show benchmarks showing mismatched models, claiming pricing info, then squared by the speed of light for a tri-flux capacitor claim it out performs the base model nMP...lol well you get it.
Yeah, I had a boss at work with a maxed out iMac always complain it took so long for renders. Short videos are ok, long videos...very slow.
I thought we already had that talk of unsupported PC cards in Mac Pros.
Mismatched models? Because I compared 4 with 6 / 8 cores? My intention was to show that models from 2009 (and those were not the pricy ones) are at same level 64-bit multi core performence-wise, assessed by Geekbench, as the entry nMP model for 3.5 grand. What's wrong with that? Or is it forbidden to address that the current entry nMP from 2013 hits the same score as older models from 4 years ago, simply because I don't pick same core number?
So according to your logic, I can't compare the iPhone 6s' performance with the Samsung Galaxy S, because the latter has 8 cores?
Don't question his logic, obviously the only fair comparison is a 8 core @ 2.26 Ghz with a GT120.
doesn't seem to realize that Metal runs on the 7950, which IS a supported video card. And while some may not have the courage or technical skills to run a Maxwell card which slaughters anything in a nMP, several hundred have somehow found the strength. (Not anecdotal, unless I have been selling to Space Aliens)
Also forgot to include the 3.33 and 3.46 Ghz 12 Core cMP in his little graph, but complains that you cherry picked. Mr Pot, may I introduce you to Mr. Kettle.
Sounds like a conspiracy. Truthfully, a gigantic box should win all the time. But who really cares. From a sheer performance it may be slightly cool...but everything else about it is uncool and old. Isn't very practical like moving your computer around with ease.
It is a workstation, not a portable computer. If want something to move around with ease, that's what the Macbook (Pro) is for.
I really hope that Apple's current Mac product page is of no significance
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I think they are just starting to get a little embarrassed by the lack of a newish Mac Pro.
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