Thats awesome. Considering i would have gotten the vega 48 for 585€ this gives me high hopes for the iMac upsell card.
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Will there ever be a new large iMac (Pro)?
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Thats awesome. Considering i would have gotten the vega 48 for 585€ this gives me high hopes for the iMac upsell card.
thanks for this!
they showed the blooming effect I’m concerned about, seems like apple’s mini-LED display is really good in bright scenes but comparative flaws are:
1 bad off-axis viewing, and
2 blooming artifacts in dark scenes.
I guess I’m not too sold on mini-LED displays if even the 576 local-dimming zones pro XDR display has these issues, but the reviewer also acknowledges that camera exposure might be exaggerating the effects, so I still think maybe it’s better judged in person. I think a lower priced consumer-grade version of miniLED in an iMac probably wouldn’t be worth it though.
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It is quite strange that they called it 5600 while it has 40CU, as many as the 5700XT. Given it uses HBM2, it is understandable that it can result even faster than the desktop version. I think the lower TDP would keep its sustained performance at lower levels than a 5700XT in many tasks.
Still... it's a beast of a card, especially for a notebook.
This addition gives me hope that we might see the refreshed version of Navi10 in iMacs.
I am looking forward the the consequent “2020 iMac Order Tracking” thread and then the inevitable “2020 iMac Excessive Fan Noise and Overheating” threads.
Wow. Seriously this is insane. Finally a real mid/high end graphics card in a MacBook Pro.
Might try a side project in Metal on my future iMac RDNA
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Vega 54 is rated to about 10 TFLOPS so this would have around 6-7 TFLOP (extrapolated from 2/3 of Geekbench for Vega 54). If it only draws 50W, they can put in two of these in an iMac to get 12-14 TFLOPS. TFLOPS. Still, that solution would be too expensive so that will not happen. 40 CU is more than the vanilla 5700M. Sorry people, but these GPU would fit nicely in a iMac enclosure.
As I said above, "mobile" definition has little meaning. Compute/ power ratio and total compute is interesting parameters not what they are binned at from marketing.
My hardware hopes for WWDC
iMac redesign, no chin, 27”, 5k display
iMac Pro, redesign like the regular iMac, 32”, 6k display.
Stand alone 27” 5k displays $2k with stand, additional $500 nano option.
iMac redesign, no chin, 27”, 5k display
iMac Pro, redesign like the regular iMac, 32”, 6k display.
Stand alone 27” 5k displays $2k with stand, additional $500 nano option.
Won't happen. You are asking for too much.
BUT
Maybe it might. Its not unreasonable and to be honest, iMac will get released, iMac Pro previewed and mini XDR showcased.
In this scenario, I would either go for iMac + extra screen
OR
the 32" iMac Pro
Monday better be good : )
BUT
Maybe it might. Its not unreasonable and to be honest, iMac will get released, iMac Pro previewed and mini XDR showcased.
In this scenario, I would either go for iMac + extra screen
OR
the 32" iMac Pro
Monday better be good : )
Monday will be interesting with distinct risk of disappointments. It seem to be packed with hardware on a traditional software event although an iMac and AirPods studio should not take long time to talk about. ARM rumours make the event even more interesting and perhaps defining Apple's future.
I suspect they are happy just to have the LG 5K display in the store.
I've got one and am happy with it. I would have preferred an Apple badge on it for warranty support but I don't think I would have paid 50% more for that.
Yes, but macs with arm cpu will no longer need separate T2 chips.
Out of curiosity, whatever happened to AMDs porting of a few libs? I vaguely remember there being some murmur about them trying to port a few ML libs to make them compatible with AMD GPUs but haven’t followed closely..I am in ML, and I’ve yet seen a real implementation in FP8. Just saying
Anyway, absolutely nothing run on AMD. Every library is CUDA-only.
9to5Mac put out a roundup video on the iMac at WWDC yesterday.
Do not expect anything you have not already read here (obviously), but if you feel like "some of the info in order" it's a nice 15 Minutes to spend.
Do not expect anything you have not already read here (obviously), but if you feel like "some of the info in order" it's a nice 15 Minutes to spend.
Honestly the worst feature this upcoming iMac can have would be incorporating PWM in its display.
The iMac Pro has a pretty low flicker rate (vs. not having flicker at all) which can lead to eyestrain, headaches, and migraines. It's ridiculous that a computer costing $5000+ has this incorporated into its display at all.
The LG Ultrafine Apple sells also has bad flicker for all brightness settings above minimum or below max brightness. I previously thought I was immune to this phenomenon until I realized the eyestrain headaches I was continuously having was from the LG display itself.
Zoom now promises end-to-end encryption is coming for all
Zoom will require free users to undergo a short verification process in order to enable end-to-end encryption.
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New iMac leaked on this webpage? 🖥🤔
Zoom now promises end-to-end encryption is coming for all
Zoom will require free users to undergo a short verification process in order to enable end-to-end encryption.
New iMac leaked on this webpage? 🖥🤔
Hahaha, that looks hideous.
Still has smaller bezels and chin than the current iMac... Well, until MondayHahaha, that looks hideous.
Mm. So. It's pulled just behind, level or in front across the spread of benches.
Largely being compared to mediocre gpus in the Macbook's case.
...and 3 year old gpu tech' in others.
Or bandwidth limited eGPU solution.
Sure, the inclusion of HBM helps get the gpu to run cooler and perform with sound bandwidth. But it's an expensive solution...band aided onto year old tech'?
The 40 cu units are nice. (But so last year?) As is the inclusion of HBM2.
Apple actually coming up with a custom solution for it's Mac customers (see the dual and quad GPU cards of the Mac Pro...technologically? No complaints. But the 5700 is old tech'. It's year old...) is 'nice' to see.
But paying through the nose for them. eg. The 5600M is £800. That's 8 times the baseline. It is 8 times faster? The 5500m seems better value to me. £100. (...save teh £700 for eGPU and RDNA2.) Or £200 if (!) you need the 8 gigs of vram.
I'd save the £700/800 and buy the future. Which is a couple of months away. -ish. eGPU caddy and RDNA2 will make this seem like what it is.
Old tech' fancied up with very pricey HBM2.
If this is the solution awaiting the BTO GPU in the new iMac. I won't be buying it. The benches are not worth the outlay. Just as the Blackmagic egpu was balkingly priced.
This is custom made for the Macbook, then. I think a rational solution is awaiting in the iMac 'new.'
Azrael.
Since when is discussing what we would like to see bitching? Maybe go to another thread or forum?
'Mid-Range.'
And what it's compared to is 'mid-range'.
Putting it in at 50watts in a 'thin' Macbook enclosure is the real achievement. I do like the HBM tech'. But again, very pricey. That's why mainstream cards are rolled with GDDR6.
But I was very underwhelmed by the previous GPUs Apple put in their Macbooks.
When you're going from a couple of tflops, '7' may seem very impressive. I find it hard to get that excited by it when we're getting this 'innovative' solution right on the door step of RDNA2. Macbook Pro buyers right now may feel differently if they have £800 to burn.
It's like that with thermally limited designs. You get the desktop gpu a year later. (Or not, if you're the Mac Mini...)
Or if we looked at the abysmal iG in the Mac Mini, this seems 'impressive' by way of comparison. It's the kind of gpu they should put in the Mini and re-think the 'marketing' on the Mini product.
Azrael.
Dont think like that, no one should...is an mercedes 3 times better than a Vw?!
Or is an Audi A6 same level with an E class/5series ?!
This 800$ is just for those who wants now the card...want to be the first...i guess, in time that option price will go down for sure
I guess for the 27" imac or whatever, will be an 400$ option from the base model