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Will there ever be a new large iMac (Pro)?
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Could make sense on the 8 core version or when you are doing heavy work such as rendering, processing video. But I gamed CS:GO, DOTA, Doom under Windows Bootcamp and although I could feel WARM air blowing at the back, the sound is a low frequency one so it's barely audible. It's different than the high pitched noise of macbooks under load.
Nice, awesome reply on the parts updates. My main point though was just "at this point" nothing is immediately available for an iMac (non pro) update/refresh that would offer any overall substantial upgrades; but if all those parts together will be available in the fall that sounds like a substantial upgrade as you're both saying.
Cool - well, I just bought the 2019 iMac fully loaded with a Pro Display XDR. Can't wait until the fall, so I hope I'm right that there isn't something in the pipeline to be ready and purchasable in June - that'd suck for timing!
Cool - well, I just bought the 2019 iMac fully loaded with a Pro Display XDR. Can't wait until the fall, so I hope I'm right that there isn't something in the pipeline to be ready and purchasable in June - that'd suck for timing!
The fan in it can definitely handle the 6 core cpu. Also it’s bigger than the macbook ones, so it’s quieter.
The only problem for me, and this is especially true when it comes to iMac Pro’s due to their price, is that you cannot access the insides even for some basic cleaning, i.e. removing dust. But you can do that on the Macbook’s. I extremely doubt that it will happen, but I hope they add a way to do this in the new ones.
The only problem for me, and this is especially true when it comes to iMac Pro’s due to their price, is that you cannot access the insides even for some basic cleaning, i.e. removing dust. But you can do that on the Macbook’s. I extremely doubt that it will happen, but I hope they add a way to do this in the new ones.
Right now - this minute - the GPU is available (lower versions are in the 16" MacBook Pro), the CPU isn't yet but the specs have been widely leaked and stories vary between imminent launch and something in the second half of the year. Only the current world situation puts a curve ball into things.
If Apple thought that sales would be right down at the moment they could just spec bump the existing iMac in a similar way to how they did the Mac mini - upgrade storage configurations using existing BTO parts at little or no cost to engineering - and that would allow them to effectively price the 'old' 2019 iMacs down at third party retailers to shift them.
I've mentioned it before but it would be easy to upgrade HDD to 1Tb Fusion Drive and 1Tb Fusion Drive to 2Tb Fusion Drive, for example.
It's only been 12 months since the 2019 refresh through and an early refresh only to be followed by a brand new model 6 months later makes little sense.
The 2018 Mini was only 18 months only when it got the surprisingly welcome bump which has since been followed up by some cheap refurb deals of the 'old' storage configurations.
WWDC is one such event that Apple could use to launch hardware - even though they rarely do these days - but If North America is in the peak of pandemic it would be poorly timed which is why the stories about prevaricating over when to launch new budget phones have been appearing.
dapa0s from the reviews I've seen on YouTube, the iMac 2019 is remarkably quiet under load and doesn't throttle at all when used in conjunction with the Vega 48 in specific which seems to help overall keep things cooler (again from what I've seen on the couple reviews I found that tested fan noise to some capacity). Which works for me - this 2015 I have can get decently loud fan noise under load. Which, even still, compared to the PC's I used to build is by comparison "whisper quiet".
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So then you generally think it seems more likely their fall (Oct/Nov) launch timeframe for the iMac then - plus as you say, with the current world situation tosses a bit of a curve ball.
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So then you generally think it seems more likely their fall (Oct/Nov) launch timeframe for the iMac then - plus as you say, with the current world situation tosses a bit of a curve ball.
I'd expect Apple to use the 5700 with the iMac. After all with 40 CU, it's a direct successor to the RX 580 with 36 CU. For the Vega class, and thus for iMP, it'll be the rumored 64 & 80 CU Navi 21/23
Yes. And this is enough for me to wait. I will not spend an money on the last year iMac when refresh of CPU/GPU or even complete redesign is in cards. If redesign wont happen, I am ok with that and will buy anyway. But not 2019 model. No way. I want to pass marshmallow test.
The question is what exactly 5700. The network has many different tests, they do not always speak in favor of these cards in comparison with Vega.
The history and experience with the dark horse Vega 48 show that in new computers we can wait for custom versions of the graphics. Someone here laid out leaks with the registration of video drivers, not only on the 5XXX series, but also on 6XXX
The history and experience with the dark horse Vega 48 show that in new computers we can wait for custom versions of the graphics. Someone here laid out leaks with the registration of video drivers, not only on the 5XXX series, but also on 6XXX
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Anyone post this rumor yet?
appleinsider.com
The iMac patent is a little confusing; why put a notch in the screen and not make use of the bezel space? Obviously patents don't guarantee anything, but it does seem reasonable to expect FaceID to come to the iMac soon.
Apple planning Face ID for MacBook Pro and iMac | AppleInsider
Apple intends to bring the Face ID biometric authentication system introduced with the iPhone, to its Mac range, including both portables and desktops.
appleinsider.com
The iMac patent is a little confusing; why put a notch in the screen and not make use of the bezel space? Obviously patents don't guarantee anything, but it does seem reasonable to expect FaceID to come to the iMac soon.
Generic picture. the bezel size is not patented. So the fact that the notch is there at all may mean that they are al least considering that approach with minimal side and top bezels at least. I guess there really isn't much in the middle of a menu bar of a mac screen.Anyone post this rumor yet?
Apple planning Face ID for MacBook Pro and iMac | AppleInsider
Apple intends to bring the Face ID biometric authentication system introduced with the iPhone, to its Mac range, including both portables and desktops.
The iMac patent is a little confusing; why put a notch in the screen and not make use of the bezel space? Obviously patents don't guarantee anything, but it does seem reasonable to expect FaceID to come to the iMac soon.
The top spec 2019 i9 iMac runs much quieter than its comparable 2017 iMac. Its single thread speed scores are comparable to the base iMac Pro.
Apple, like many manufacturers in this space, unsurprisingly weighs the impact of one desktop mac model 's redesign on other desktop macs, so I suspect any changes will need to maintain the separation between, mini, iMac, iMac Pro and Mac Pro. The iMac Pro hasn't seen a real update since its introduction. Maybe it will receive the smaller bezels etc. to distinguish more from a top spec iMac
I hope so, I was never a fan of Imac, but AppleTV + made me want to use Imac as a TV with Apple TV, and while there are not many rumors about Imac, the few rumors suggest that new Imac will be released in 2020, and generally The Imac is announced at WWDC and released at the end of the year, and i see no reason why this will not happen this year. Furthermore, the Imac announcement at WWDC 2020 is supported by Coinx citing a new Imac soon, but we will have to wait until June as what will be announced at WWDC 2020 has not been confirmed. (although WWDC 2020 rumors are from generally reliable sources)
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Bloomberg: Apple continues work on new HomePod, Apple TV, iMac, and more for 2020 - 9to5Mac
A new report from Bloomberg today dives deeper into the new work from home culture at Apple throughout the COVID-19...
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Another very small iMac rumor, that Apple is at least working on the iMac, with a possible release later this year.
Although you come with good intentions your post is inaccurate. (unless you talked about iMac Pro)
iMac is never announced and then released 6 months later. When iMac is announced its usually out on the same day or within few days.
iMac Pro did that but thats another category and another product.
Anyway, I hope WWDC will bring us new iMacs as I'm eagerly waiting for a new one. Smaller bezels, better thermals and better GPU is a must. Ideally AMD CPU if they really want to make waves with it
iMac is never announced and then released 6 months later. When iMac is announced its usually out on the same day or within few days.
iMac Pro did that but thats another category and another product.
Anyway, I hope WWDC will bring us new iMacs as I'm eagerly waiting for a new one. Smaller bezels, better thermals and better GPU is a must. Ideally AMD CPU if they really want to make waves with it
Bloomberg: Apple continues work on new HomePod, Apple TV, iMac, and more for 2020 - 9to5Mac
A new report from Bloomberg today dives deeper into the new work from home culture at Apple throughout the COVID-19...
Another very small iMac rumor, that Apple is at least working on the iMac, with a possible release later this year.
From your link "The company is working on new versions of the HomePod speaker, Apple TV set-top box, MacBook Pro, budget iPads, Apple Watch, and iMac for as early as later this year."
I would be surprised at much of anything before October, especially with current events.
The April 15th date is supposedly set aside for the iPhone 9, AirTag, and MacBook Pro - I fully expected a 14" model. iPhone 9 was ready for mass production and shareholders clearly want revenue on the books - as was AirTag.
MacBook Pro is needed to erase the last of the Butterfly keyboards from existence - and again that might have been ready for manufacture as soon as the 28w CPUs become available.
Budget iPad was only just refreshed last September and languishes on an ancient A10 CPU while the iPad mini and iPad Air get had the A12. I would say it'll get another refresh in September alongside the phones.
Apple Watch seems like an annual event now - it's still a growing product line - so I see that dropping in September alongside phones and budget iPad.
AppleTV set top box was mooted last year with an A12. It may yet get the A12z when it gets released but it seems like a good candidate for a WWDC launch if they expect to boost the tvOS App Store and add some gaming capability ahead of the next generation consoles launching in the holiday period.
October is the traditional MacBook Pro launch window. Suitable Comet Lake H CPUs for it have just been announced but Apple may be waiting for RDNA2 graphics later this year unless we are likely to see Radeon Pro 5300MX and 5500MX in a laptop refresh in time for WWDC.
And finally we get the iMac, which is ready for a complete range refresh alongside the iMac Pro. But when? If we believe the rumour that went round that suggested that we would see a 'new' iMac and Mac mini soon - well, we got the 'new' Mac mini ahead of expectation just 18 months after the 2018 launch.
While this means Apple will be using the Coffee Lake CPUs for a little while longer - at least in the Mini - we could also see the iMac get that storage bump any time up to October but could the redesign be also ready for manufacture?
Who is to say that a 24" 4.6k iMac with SSD only storage, Comet Lake H, and RDNA GPU (AMD Pro 5500-5700) couldn't land in June - a redesigned 'Air' style? It could sit alongside a redesigned iMac Pro which would follow the new style (only bigger). That's the only way hardware of that magnitude gets the early release prior to October.
Latest rumors and "leaks" say the "iPhone 9" will launch tomorrow and will be called the iPhone SE.
Comet Lake H is a 45W mobile CPU that will go into the MBP 16 refresh. Comet Lake S are the desktop CPUs the iMac will use and those are rumored to roll out within three months or so.
That is Comet Lake H and Intel announced those today (see above).
I think what sublunar meant was an thin and light "air" model (consumer model) that uses mobile processors. The performance of a well cooled mobile CPU is sufficient for most people.
I am also waiting for a iMac redesign / update.
I sold my Mac Mini 2018 right before the Mini mini refresh.
Alot of people are selling their stuff right now, so the refurbished market is pretty amazing right now.
I bought a Mac Pro 2013, upgraded it to 12 cores, 64 GB memory for a total of 1300. Today I bought an Apple 27“ Thunderbolt Display for 200.
I sold my Mac Mini 2018 right before the Mini mini refresh.
Alot of people are selling their stuff right now, so the refurbished market is pretty amazing right now.
I bought a Mac Pro 2013, upgraded it to 12 cores, 64 GB memory for a total of 1300. Today I bought an Apple 27“ Thunderbolt Display for 200.