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Will there ever be a new large iMac (Pro)?
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Mac Mini doesn't come with a display so you need to buy this as well. If you take an i7, some extra Ram and a LG 5k you end up with a price that's an iMac level but you miss the dGPU. Of course, you could go for the base model MM but then you might not get the job done (in my case at least) and buying a cheap display won't make you happy. So not really an option unfortunately!
I'm not saying that IS the reason. I'm saying that maybe if its plan that late then RDNA2 will also be part of it. I'm starting to think, that Apple could change their plans and whatever was ready to ship in March is no longer an option and they will just come with something better. After all, Apple did often update Early AND Late models so now it seems that we only get Late models and the Early was scrapped completely. It would overall actually make sense.
Early was just simple spec bump but Late was redesigned and substantial. That would align with a lot of rumours also.
Covid just messed it up and Apple was battling what to do.
I know its a bit wild theory but I feel its plausible. There was not much in March to be ready vs what is ready in Fall so it all makes sense.
So yeah, I'm guessing that we will get a beefy one in fall
Early was just simple spec bump but Late was redesigned and substantial. That would align with a lot of rumours also.
Covid just messed it up and Apple was battling what to do.
I know its a bit wild theory but I feel its plausible. There was not much in March to be ready vs what is ready in Fall so it all makes sense.
So yeah, I'm guessing that we will get a beefy one in fall
The best strategy is to take the 6-core Mac mini, make the RAM upgrade by yourself with Crucial RAM, and buy 2K or 4K Dell Ultrasharp monitors. You have a very good value after that. The monitors can always be connected to a future iMac to get a 3 display setup (which is frankly the best ever) and the Mac mini is still a powerful computer.
Well, that may work for some people but it wouldn't work for me. MM GPU sux.
There are many better options but I feel that best one is to just wait. If you truly need a new machine now then i would look for 2nd hand which you can resell later and hopefully don't lose to much value.
Or find a good deal on refurb or old model
There are many better options but I feel that best one is to just wait. If you truly need a new machine now then i would look for 2nd hand which you can resell later and hopefully don't lose to much value.
Or find a good deal on refurb or old model
It's pretty hilarious and maddening at the same time how late Apple are with the GPUs
Last year a few months before RDNA came out, they released iMacs with 2 year old graphics inside.
And now according to the leaks, history will repeat itself...and we get 1-year old RDNA GPUs just a bit before RDNA 2 would be available
Last year a few months before RDNA came out, they released iMacs with 2 year old graphics inside.
And now according to the leaks, history will repeat itself...and we get 1-year old RDNA GPUs just a bit before RDNA 2 would be available
This is getting crazy. If the intel imac doesnt come out until Oct. FML
Apple would never launch a new Mac at the iPhone event in September so frankly that Tweet is just stating the obvious. I'd be more skeptical of it if they said the new AS iMac WAS coming at the iPhone event.
Also, let us not forget that a consumer Apple Silicon Mac cannot ship until macOS 11 ships and macOS does not traditionally ship until October. So claims that it will not ship in September, again, is just stating the obvious.
And now that we know Big Sur / macOS 11 has adopted iOS design elements that were developed for displays with rounded corners, it makes more and more sense that the rumored ~24" iMac with "iPad Pro rounded corners" will be powered by Apple Silicon chips and not by Intel chips.
The claim that the first consumer AS Mac will be a MacBook Pro is hedging, IMO. Kuo again said that Apple will release a new MacBook Pro with a MiniLED 14.1" display and that makes logical sense to be powered by an Apple Silicon chip, as well. But Kuo is now starting to hedge and saying the 16" and 14.1" MiniLED MacBook Pros might slip into 2021 compared to his earlier claims they would be Late 2020 models. Apple has just announced new MiniLED display suppliers so maybe they can still meet the Late 2020 ship date or maybe they cannot.
And I noted, the preferred option is to wait.
The Mac mini option is if you need something to get a project out the door.
Certainly if your project requires more, get something better. But you just want to factor what you’re bringing in revenue to justify the cost of an expensive iMac which you know you’ll be kicking yourself once the Apple Silicon iMac arrives.
Apple would never launch a new Mac at the iPhone event in September so frankly that Tweet is just stating the obvious. I'd be more skeptical of it if they said the new AS iMac WAS coming at the iPhone event.
Also, let us not forget that a consumer Apple Silicon Mac cannot ship until macOS 11 ships and macOS does not traditionally ship until October. So claims that it will not ship in September, again, is just stating the obvious.
And now that we know Big Sur / macOS 11 has adopted iOS design elements that were developed for displays with rounded corners, it makes more and more sense that the rumored ~24" iMac with "iPad Pro rounded corners" will be powered by Apple Silicon chips and not by Intel chips.
The claim that the first consumer AS Mac will be a MacBook Pro is hedging, IMO. Kuo again said that Apple will release a new MacBook Pro with a MiniLED 14.1" display and that makes logical sense to be powered by an Apple Silicon chip, as well. But Kuo is now starting to hedge and saying the 16" and 14.1" MiniLED MacBook Pros might slip into 2021 compared to his earlier claims they would be Late 2020 models. Apple has just announced new MiniLED display suppliers so maybe they can still meet the Late 2020 ship date or maybe they cannot.
We will see. as of now any leaker will be "soft news". I hope that we won't have everyone and their mother confirm him in the next couple of "days" as it happened with "no hardware at WWDC". I just continue hope for new iMac this month, preferably next week.
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And even more so, they need software to be ready. No point to get an AS Mac before much of your software runs on it faster than what they have now. Emulation likely ain't gonna cut it. 3rd parties will take their time.
*nods*
I don't see why Apple needs to wait to ship a new Intel-powered iMac (especially one using the parts in the Geekbench Tweet) so an extended delay for one makes little sense to me.
The Apple Silicon-powered iMac is the one we will have to wait until towards End of Year.
With the 27” iMac being nearly out of stock right now and this updated iMac benchmark leaking. I think there will be a release of the 27” Redesigned Intel iMac in July. It will be like the 16” MacBook Pro release with the product being sent to select reviewers, Apple videos highlights on the website, interviews, ads etc.
September will be a big online only event for the iPhone/Apple Watch, Apples one more thing will be a preview of the 13” Apple Silicon MacBook and 24” iMac, both releasing by the end of the year.
Apple is starting with the consumer line of Apple computers first for its own silicon. They know the pro side of their customers need discrete graphics and full application support that will be lost in the early days of Apple Silicon. Consumers who use their Macs for web browsing, word processing and basic tasks will get the benefit of Apple Silicon first.
It wont be until early/mid 2022 when I think Apple will transition the high end iMac and Mac Pro to Apple Silicon.
September will be a big online only event for the iPhone/Apple Watch, Apples one more thing will be a preview of the 13” Apple Silicon MacBook and 24” iMac, both releasing by the end of the year.
Apple is starting with the consumer line of Apple computers first for its own silicon. They know the pro side of their customers need discrete graphics and full application support that will be lost in the early days of Apple Silicon. Consumers who use their Macs for web browsing, word processing and basic tasks will get the benefit of Apple Silicon first.
It wont be until early/mid 2022 when I think Apple will transition the high end iMac and Mac Pro to Apple Silicon.
Finally a 2018 Mac mini would cost me 2300$ CAD with
Quite expansive for only a 6-core/12 threads 2018 machine ...
- 3.2GHz 6-core Intel Core i7
- 8 GB RM with upgrade to Crucial 64 GB DDR4 memory
- 512 GB SSD
Quite expansive for only a 6-core/12 threads 2018 machine ...
You are right but here is a thought. Seeing that A14 chip will go to iPhone, iPad and Macs it wouldn't be too crazy to use the first event for both (or all).
Unlikely I know but the pattern could change now. In fact, I feel that we won't be getting Macs before the A chip is announced in the iPhone. We know that Apple will be now on yearly updates so once the new pattern sets in we will be able to know for sure what the schedule might be like. Personally I feel that iMac before holiday season + iPad + iPhone makes sense but then march event will be for what?
Or it could be that September iPhone/AWatch
October iMac etc.
March iPad Pro
Damn, even I am confused now
Surely the development of A chip will be pretty much simultaneous for both iDevices and Macs.
Unlikely I know but the pattern could change now. In fact, I feel that we won't be getting Macs before the A chip is announced in the iPhone. We know that Apple will be now on yearly updates so once the new pattern sets in we will be able to know for sure what the schedule might be like. Personally I feel that iMac before holiday season + iPad + iPhone makes sense but then march event will be for what?
Or it could be that September iPhone/AWatch
October iMac etc.
March iPad Pro
Damn, even I am confused now
Surely the development of A chip will be pretty much simultaneous for both iDevices and Macs.
Apple would never launch a new Mac at the iPhone event in September so frankly that Tweet is just stating the obvious. I'd be more skeptical of it if they said the new AS iMac WAS coming at the iPhone event.
Also, let us not forget that a consumer Apple Silicon Mac cannot ship until macOS 11 ships and macOS does not traditionally ship until October. So claims that it will not ship in September, again, is just stating the obvious.
And now that we know Big Sur / macOS 11 has adopted iOS design elements that were developed for displays with rounded corners, it makes more and more sense that the rumored ~24" iMac with "iPad Pro rounded corners" will be powered by Apple Silicon chips and not by Intel chips.
The claim that the first consumer AS Mac will be a MacBook Pro is hedging, IMO. Kuo again said that Apple will release a new MacBook Pro with a MiniLED 14.1" display and that makes logical sense to be powered by an Apple Silicon chip, as well. But Kuo is now starting to hedge and saying the 16" and 14.1" MiniLED MacBook Pros might slip into 2021 compared to his earlier claims they would be Late 2020 models. Apple has just announced new MiniLED display suppliers so maybe they can still meet the Late 2020 ship date or maybe they cannot.
LOL
Yeah, unfortunately.
Don't buy it, please. Thats a crap deal
Wait with us and be happy later
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How can you talk about potatos in that way as a German? How dare you?
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True, but I believe Apple wants the focus of the iPhone Event to be the iPhone. The annual iPhone reveal is Apple's most important PR event of the year and the one where the most public and media attention is given. I can understand the thinking that because of all that attention, why not launch AS Macs at said event as a "One More Thing", but I believe the product is too important to Apple to be relegated to a "One More Thing" quick briefing.
Also, in edition to the iPhone 12, we will get the Apple Watch Series 6 with perhaps more hardware health monitoring features they will want to talk about (along with the new Sleep Tracking function for the line in Watch OS 7) and very likely a new AppleTV 4K and a new Apple HomePod. So the schedule is already pretty full to add a long (30+ minute) Apple Silicon Mac briefing on top of that.
I am strongly inclined to agree with you that all of the "flagship" Apple Silicon chips will be on the same "generation" and that the iPhone SoC will ship first, followed by the iPad and then the Mac versions due to the latter's successively greater complexity and improvement in TSMC's production process improving overall yields.
So the "A14" in the iPhone 12 family should give us an idea of what to expect in both the A14X for the iPad and "A14M" (or whatever it is called) for the Mac.
A March / April event could be to introduce new iPad Pros with A13X / A14X SoCs and MiniLED displays and maybe a new MiniLED iPad Mini.
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Perhaps Paralels could bundle Win 10 for ARM, any chance they could make a deal?
Anyway, if it is not the x86-64 win 10 what is the point, not too much useful software exists...
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I hope that you don't want the sealed ram bonus too...
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