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Will there ever be a new large iMac (Pro)?
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backpedaling - ha.. We thought we knew it was being released at wwdc. We thought wrong. Anything is possible...
It is unlikely that the new iMac 27" will get a weak GPU like 5500. Historically, its top GPU is always more powerful than the top GPU of MacBook Pro 15 (in this case, 16-inch has 5600). Using the analogy of previous years, we can conclude that the top GPU of 21.5" will be about 5600, and 27" will get 5700(XT?), and maybe even higher. However, there may be a question of price, given how much is asked for MBP16s 5600...
Well, i stand my prediction that WWDC was delayed by two weeks to introduce the delayed iMac and that did not happen because of BLM taking over the media.
Everybody and their mother said there is not only a new but also a redesigned iMac and it's coming at WWDC. With plenty of details.
Then Apple apparently only back paddled 24 hours before the keynote as many of the same leakers reported. Possibly due to not wanting to overshadow the ARM announcement.
All that was leaked before is not unleaked because people are disheartened by no iMac news at WWDC.
This is happening.
Thats why i am still guessing next week. Could be up to 30 days after the keynote. But still i am guessing next week. No 27 iMac sold in five weeks.
Apple have mentioned SoC so many times, it is unlikely there will be discrete graphics. But Apple is no longer restricted by the supply lines designed for Windows where high powered graphics come from different suppliers to the CPU. Apple Silicon may be on one chip, but it is not the same as integrated graphics as we have seen on Intel Macs, where it is the weak option.
After a few weeks away from this thread, I am back...
think it will be a very dull spec bump for 10th gen CPUs and RDNA graphics. A custom 95w CPU makes sense. Why redesign the iMac for more heat, when ARM will be much more efficient and run cooler? ARM iMacs will receive the iPad style design, starting with the 24in model later this year.
think it will be a very dull spec bump for 10th gen CPUs and RDNA graphics. A custom 95w CPU makes sense. Why redesign the iMac for more heat, when ARM will be much more efficient and run cooler? ARM iMacs will receive the iPad style design, starting with the 24in model later this year.
203 pages to resume this in 3 lines 👍🏻😂. Exactly what I think it‘s going to happen.
If anywhere close to reality, it looks like I will be clinging on to my Mac mini to see how ARM Macs unfold over the next 2 years.
Kuo is the single rumour I've heard of a 24" iMac. China Times reported a 23". Kuo should be more accurate because he stated the 24" would be an ARM device, while China times didn't mention ARM.
9to5mac.com
Report: New 23-inch iMac coming this year alongside ‘low-cost’ 11-inch iPad - 9to5Mac
A new report today from the China Times says that Apple is planning to unveil a new 23-inch iMac later...
9to5mac.com
I completely agree. Sonny Dickson is a pretty reliable leaker. With the 27” iMac pretty much out of stock, and claims that a redesigned iMac with T2 chip, Navi graphics would be coming at WWDC, I think this is it. They designed this new chassis years ago most likely for an Intel roadmap so it probably has improved thermals. Now that we have this geekbench, I think we see this next week.
Im sticking with that they are updating the 27” now and introducing a 24” Apple silicon version in October/November. The pros who buy the 27” need discrete GPU’s and as much as Apple silicon will be amazing, they aren’t there yet for pros.
So it will be a dumb spec bump with an underclocked 10900k and low tier rdna1 gpu because they can’t put more heat because there won’t be any redesign for sure. Now this is the Mac in the pipeline that Tim Cook is excited for. I also see some of you dreaming an iMac Pro cooling system. Don’t be silly guys, don’t you know that complete garbage salesman? We’re talking about a man who put a few mm shorter cable to save a cent per MacBook Pro, or 480p webcam.
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I think it's not pretty much out of stock. I think it is out of stock. I think they are note even BTO it. On a german board a few weeks ago i saw some guy complaining why his 27 inch iMac had not shipped for a looooong time. People were suggesting that a switch is imminent and in the past people would just receive a equivalent of what they ordered in the upgraded version.
Sadly that guy canceled his order and picked some leftover up in a store. But i believe there is a large chance that there is no assembly line for the current 27 inch iMac anymore. I can't prove it of cause... but who can prove anything not released by Apple themselves.
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You do realise that iMac currently comes with like... 8 GPU options and i don't even know how many CPU options. Theres downplaying what is going to happen and there is just being a stubborn toddler screaming for to little candy.
Don't get bogged down in the sizes. It is probably 23.8in, and Kuo rounded it up, China Times didn't.Kuo is the single rumour I've heard of a 24" iMac. China Times reported a 23". Kuo should be more accurate because he stated the 24" would be an ARM device, while China times didn't mention ARM.
Report: New 23-inch iMac coming this year alongside ‘low-cost’ 11-inch iPad - 9to5Mac
A new report today from the China Times says that Apple is planning to unveil a new 23-inch iMac later...
Kuo is the single rumour I've heard of a 24" iMac. China Times reported a 23". Kuo should be more accurate because he stated the 24" would be an ARM device, while China times didn't mention ARM.
Report: New 23-inch iMac coming this year alongside ‘low-cost’ 11-inch iPad - 9to5Mac
A new report today from the China Times says that Apple is planning to unveil a new 23-inch iMac later...
I feel like this 23 or 24 inch deal really evolves around the switch to mini LED. Same as for the 14 inch macbook some people talked about. That and the ARM switch probably is the reason why one could make the assumption that to low spec small iMac won't get updated till Q4 since it's been restocked a while ago. Than again, around the timeframe people were expecting the iMac 21 inch also ran dry for a week or two so maybe apple just restocked that because people that buy "low cost" care less about year old hardware.
But we WANT the iMac Pro cooling system!!!!! Please, Sir.
It still makes sense considering how the clock-speeds compare to the known 65W and 125W models. Faster base clock than the 65W model (so needs more power than the 65W model at the lower end), but not as high a turbo clock as the 125W model (so is not drawing as much power at the top end).
I tend to trust Kuo when it comes to physical properties because his contacts are embedded in Apple's supply chains so whomever is actually making the case would be the source of the leak and as such his "hit-rate" on those types of rumors is pretty good.
Where I don't trust Kuo is pricing and availability - there he is generally guessing (and his "hit-rate" on those types of rumors is far poorer).
I do not really see the point of a redesigned intel iMac. However, if we get a iPad Pro design, the depth of the case will be smaller than the drop form we have today meaning that heatsinks will be smaller/shallower. Hence a 95W version maybe a good middle way for such a design. Thicker case at the edges will do very little for cooling CPU/GPU.
As for the performance of the Mac Apple silicon. It is impossible to say as we know very little about the modularity or the targeted TDP. They promise desktop performance in the TDP of a laptop. 45W CPU+45W GPU is very far from the 6-8W A12Z. Actually, it is the performance of about 10 A12Z (80W): 10 TFLOPS GPU, 46000 Multi threaded (geekbench) if we assume perfect scaling. Of course that would be an impossibly large chip (1350 mm2 at 7 nm or 700 mm2 at 5 nm). Whatever, it will be interesting two years but also difficult to chose if there actually is a redesign of Intel iMacs.
As for the performance of the Mac Apple silicon. It is impossible to say as we know very little about the modularity or the targeted TDP. They promise desktop performance in the TDP of a laptop. 45W CPU+45W GPU is very far from the 6-8W A12Z. Actually, it is the performance of about 10 A12Z (80W): 10 TFLOPS GPU, 46000 Multi threaded (geekbench) if we assume perfect scaling. Of course that would be an impossibly large chip (1350 mm2 at 7 nm or 700 mm2 at 5 nm). Whatever, it will be interesting two years but also difficult to chose if there actually is a redesign of Intel iMacs.
they will never change the layout with an "old" iMac 27....
moroever if you see the webpage of os Big Sur they've consider in many pages the photo of iMac
they will not change nothing this time.
„Billion dollar company unwilling to change jpgs for product introduction worth tens of millions“
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pffff.... from marketing point of view.... they intend to give continuity between new OS with "old" iMac....
pffff.... from marketing point of view.... they intend to give continuity between new OS with "old" iMac....
Contrary. They make old stuff look dated with new designs to drive sales.