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When do you expect an iMac redesign?

  • 4rd quarter 2019

    Votes: 34 4.1%
  • 1st quarter 2020

    Votes: 23 2.8%
  • 2nd quarter 2020

    Votes: 119 14.5%
  • 3rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 131 15.9%
  • 4rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 172 20.9%
  • 2021 or later

    Votes: 343 41.7%

  • Total voters
    822
  • Poll closed .
I ordered a 27" i9 on June 24th with expected delivery 7/24-7/31. It just shipped from Shanghai China with a delivery date of this Friday 7/17.

I checked this forum an unhealthy amount of times over the past couple of weeks hoping a refresh would happen prior to it shipping, but I'm good with it. I'm upgrading from a 2015 i5 with Fusion Drive so I'm a happy camper. I'm content. I'll likely get the ARM MacBook Pro when that drops to replace my 2015 MBP and get my wife the ARM iMac when that drops (an easy excuse to get it in the household so I can play around with it lol).
 
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I almost caved but I'm gonna hold a bit longer. The woot iMac Pro deal had me for a hot second though.

They're going to get hotter when the Intel iMac is released. As it will offer most if not better performance for a far cheaper price than £5k.

Be strong, true believer...

Azrael.
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I believe there will be an Intel Mac and I agree that it will probably won’t be until September - October.
Really sucks. I’m so tempted to just build a pc but every time I start picking out parts ..
I’m like why. Maybe I’m just getting old.

I really want a Mac Pro
because I like towers and the ability to upgrade as I go but not sure it is worth the coin at this point.

Waiting is harder when you get older as time goes faster. :/

Me too. But? The Mac Pro is a price joke. With entry level specs to make Steve Jobs blush.

A PC Tower at Cyber Power Systems with a 12 core AMD and a 5700XT is £1250. They have % finance. So over ten months? That's 'only' £120. Per month.

It's 7 more weeks. And if the iMac doesn't turn up. I'm just going to build a Hack' Mac or get on with some work I can do on the PC whilst I'm waiting. I'm going dual platform any how. So the RDNA2 is having a factor in terms of when I buy that also.

We're inbetween significant tech' waves. Fall of this year was always going to be a big deal. RDNA2/Ampere being orders of magnitude better than Polaris tech' from years ago. The PS5/next gen consoles. And now, because of Apple's earlier than expected more to AS consumer products.

Azrael.
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You didn't use 10.0 or 10.1 then, I remember kernel panics being an almost daily occurence. Just unplugging a USB stick would bring the machine down even though it was ejected.

True. But Apple was in a fight for it's existential survival back then...with the 'resources' to match.

I have fond memories of Mac Os 7,8 and 9 and early 'X'. Flawed though they were.

Azrael.
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Ya, was hard not to pass the refurb with military discount. Got it for 2400$. No way I will get something that powerful with a new design for that price.

$2400?

Well done.

It was worth that.

Azrael.
 
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Why? I don't get it. You've checked the forums so you know the tech is so overpriced and so dated and yet you still ordered for the full price. My head hurts man! Why oh why did you do it?

This is literally the worst time to buy the 2019 model unless you get crazy good deal. Why oh why did you do it?
My head....
Maybe I'm not making enough money because for me that would be crazy waste.
I do not comprehend! :-(

I ordered a 27" i9 on June 24th with expected delivery 7/24-7/31. It just shipped from Shanghai China with a delivery date of this Friday 7/17.

I checked this forum an unhealthy amount of times over the past couple of weeks hoping a refresh would happen prior to it shipping, but I'm good with it. I'm upgrading from a 2015 i5 with Fusion Drive so I'm a happy camper. I'm content. I'll likely get the ARM MacBook Pro when that drops to replace my 2015 MBP and get my wife the ARM iMac when that drops (an easy excuse to get it in the household so I can play around with it lol).
 
Why? I don't get it. You've checked the forums so you know the tech is so overpriced and so dated and yet you still ordered for the full price. My head hurts man! Why oh why did you do it?

This is literally the worst time to buy the 2019 model unless you get crazy good deal. Why oh why did you do it?
My head....
Maybe I'm not making enough money because for me that would be crazy waste.
I do not comprehend! :-(

I was in the market for a new one right now. I waited for WWDC, then a bit after to see about the new Intel. I got a machine that suits my needs and will for quite some time. Let's say it drops within the next couple of weeks, I may return it and get the new one. I'm giving this 2015 to my cousins who need it right now. The next best thing is always right around the corner right? Plus we'll likely get the first ARMs when they come out (MB for me and 23/24" Arm for the Mrs.). When the 27"/32" ARM comes out, if it's that much of difference in performance and i'm not getting by with the 2019, I'll upgrade and sell the 2019 or keep it as a family computer (I have a family of 6). I don't agree that it's a waste. Sorry for your headache.
 
I was in the market for a new one right now. I waited for WWDC, then a bit after to see about the new Intel. I got a machine that suits my needs and will for quite some time. Let's say it drops within the next couple of weeks, I may return it and get the new one. I'm giving this 2015 to my cousins who need it right now. The next best thing is always right around the corner right? Plus we'll likely get the first ARMs when they come out (MB for me and 23/24" Arm for the Mrs.). When the 27"/32" ARM comes out, if it's that much of difference in performance and i'm not getting by with the 2019, I'll upgrade and sell the 2019 or keep it as a family computer (I have a family of 6). I don't agree that it's a waste. Sorry for your headache.

I think you did the right thing man. Either way if you buy a 2019 or 2020 intel iMac it’ll really just be a transition machine to the AS machines. Who knows, maybe the transition is more rough than we think, at least you know you have a solid 2019 that can perform all tasks.

im in the same boat as you were, I’ve been waiting for the next model but sometimes I think the time lost waiting and using and old machine isn’t worth waiting for a spec bump. I’m thinking about getting an iMac Pro and just keeping it until the 2nd generation AS iMac...skip the whole transition.
 
I think you did the right thing man. Either way if you buy a 2019 or 2020 intel iMac it’ll really just be a transition machine to the AS machines. Who knows, maybe the transition is more rough than we think, at least you know you have a solid 2019 that can perform all tasks.

im in the same boat as you were, I’ve been waiting for the next model but sometimes I think the time lost waiting and using and old machine isn’t worth waiting for a spec bump. I’m thinking about getting an iMac Pro and just keeping it until the 2nd generation AS iMac...skip the whole transition.

Thanks brother. I don't think there's a right or wrong. Everyone has their own needs and financial situations. I've never been the one to have to have the latest and greatest. I got my 2015 brand new at the top of 2017 and got my 2015 MBP at the end of 2018 used on eBay. I've loved them both and have no regrets. I'd go ahead and grab something if you need it. Time is money.
 
Thanks brother. I don't think there's a right or wrong. Everyone has their own needs and financial situations. I've never been the one to have to have the latest and greatest. I got my 2015 brand new at the top of 2017 and got my 2015 MBP at the end of 2018 used on eBay. I've loved them both and have no regrets. I'd go ahead and grab something if you need it. Time is money.

I hope you enjoy it. You have to buy according to need. And you have. There will be no shame in a 2019 iMac. It's a 'decent' performer.

You'll get plenty of work done on that.

Have fun.

I'm still waiting for the 2020 iMac. (Hopefully I won't be waiting ten years...)

Azrael.
 
I hope you enjoy it. You have to buy according to need. And you have. There will be no shame in a 2019 iMac. It's a 'decent' performer.

You'll get plenty of work done on that.

Have fun.

I'm still waiting for the 2020 iMac. (Hopefully I won't be waiting ten years...)

Azrael.

I almost pulled the trigger on a Vega 1TB SSD I9 last night in the refurb store (2920) but I’m just gonna wait I’ll only be mad if I’m sept/oct they don’t have anything out yet
 
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I almost pulled the trigger on a Vega 1TB SSD I9 last night in the refurb store (2920) but I’m just gonna wait I’ll only be mad if I’m sept/oct they don’t have anything out yet

I understand the frustration of 'the wait.' I certainly won't get caught out without a back up machine again. That's for sure. Lesson taught. Humple (yes, with a 'p'...) pie eaten and lesson learned.

See. If Apple are going with SSD as standard? That's £££ saved. If Apple is going with better performance on cpu. That's money saved. If they have RDNA1 gpus. That's money saved. So it's an effective price cut over the Vega/1tb ssd model. And they might even offer 16 gig as standard. More money saved.

And then you have the BTO reach of 10 core or the 5700XT.

This close (though it may not feel like it to some...) to a new iMac release. I just can't pull the trigger on something like £2992. It's 3 grand. That could well be a new design with new levels of performance. If I bought it...I can guarantee those 7 weeks until Sep' would go super quick...and buyer's remorse would throw me under the bus.

Azrael.
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...and if they offered a BTO RDNA2...I'd be, 'Man...you see dat GPU that can do ray tracing wit me stuck on dis 5300 gpu...'

With a 6600(?) M RDNA2 listed as one of the Apple GPUs to come... Must...wait...

Azrael.
 
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I almost pulled the trigger on a Vega 1TB SSD I9 last night in the refurb store (2920) but I’m just gonna wait I’ll only be mad if I’m sept/oct they don’t have anything out yet


Which, to me is a 3k computer.

Here's an example where the extra £500 would be worth it for the extra 'Pro' refinements, sound, cooling, space grey, Vega 56...

And I think these machines will get even cheaper once the 'new' iMac launches. As the relative performance will be had for much, much less £££. Even if Apple up the entry price to £1950.


Big ram and juicy ssd.

Azrael.
 
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They're going to get hotter when the Intel iMac is released. As it will offer most if not better performance for a far cheaper price than £5k.

Be strong, true believer...

Azrael.
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The second that intel iMac is announced I’m ordering!
 
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The second that intel iMac is announced I’m ordering!

Anthony13,

Nice one. What specs are you hoping to go for?


  • Intel 10900k processor. (down clocked custom variant?)
  • Amd Navi 21 Graphics. (5700 RDNA1 variant...)
  • Up to 64 GB of ram (I'd go for 32 gigs. That would be enough for me.)
  • SSD only (starts with 512GB and go up to 4 TB of SSD - I'd be about the 1TB, I think.)
I'd be happy with something 'like' this. (Yes we know the Intel is going to be a custom lower clock...but that info' came to light after this article I'm quoting for was written...) So if they offer a lower power Intel 10 core...and a down clocked 5700XT (variant?) or a BTO RDNA2? I'm after that. Probably 32 gigs or RAM. And a 500-1TB. Probably 1TB.

Really want that new design. But if they don't? I'll have to 'suck' it up hoping that they'll still improve internal cooling alongside the 'down clocked' components to help prevent component bake over the life of the machine. Don't like hair dryer fans.

This will be the 1st Intel Mac I instant buy. My tongue is around my ankles...mac parched am I.

Azrael.
 
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You didn't use 10.0 or 10.1 then, I remember kernel panics being an almost daily occurence. Just unplugging a USB stick would bring the machine down even though it was ejected.

I was one of the early adopters that (aside from some games) switched to OS X full time with 10.0.4. Man that was a ride, lol. I remember there being all sorts of weird bugs, like how launching a Classic app would occasionally make the cursor vanish entirely, never to return until the computer was restarted. It felt like the future despite the crashes and bugs though, so I stuck with it.

When 10.2 came out though, now that was a small revolution. Massive speed up across the board putting it on par with OS 9 for most things, fixes for the vast majority of showstopper bugs, and a more polished iteration of Aqua. I absolutely adored that release.
 
Anthony13,

Nice one. What specs are you hoping to go for?


  • Intel 10900k processor. (down clocked custom variant?)
  • Amd Navi 21 Graphics. (5700 RDNA1 variant...)
  • Up to 64 GB of ram (I'd go for 32 gigs. That would be enough for me.)
  • SSD only (starts with 512GB and go up to 4 TB of SSD - I'd be about the 1TB, I think.)
I'd be happy with something 'like' this. (Yes we know the Intel is going to be a custom lower clock...but that info' came to light after this article I'm quoting for was written...) So if they offer a lower power Intel 10 core...and a down clocked 5700XT (variant?) or a BTO RDNA2? I'm after that. Probably 32 gigs or RAM. And a 500-1TB. Probably 1TB.

Really want that new design. But if they don't? I'll have to 'suck' it up hoping that they'll still improve internal cooling alongside the 'down clocked' components to help prevent component bake over the life of the machine. Don't like hair dryer fans.

This will be the 1st Intel Mac I instant buy. My tongue is around my ankles...mac parched am I.

Azrael.

observations/questions, cause I'm not the biggest 'spec' guy.

According to those leaked benchmark's, the GPU is my biggest question mark. If it's the 5300 desktop version than it should handle my needs (drafting in CAD, cinema 4D, rendering). I'm unclear, is this 'NAVI1+'? I'm sure any GPU I'm getting will be leagues better than what I have now (Radeon Pro 555 2GB in my 2017 MacBook Pro). According to vectorworks, the biggest bottle neck I have is my GPU, so i'm planning on upgrading it to the best option available. This is where I need the biggest performance jump in looking to upgrade from my 2017 MBP (a machine I was 'gifted' by Apple and have appreciated but never would have bought).

I'll upgrade the RAM aftermarket (as I've read that's far more cost friendly), to 40GB, as that should be enough for me. I've been watching my system activity monitor and I only occasionally go over the 16GB I use right now.

1TB SSD, I've existed on 512GB with my machines for about the last 10 years but I've recently gotten into some huge files in Affinity Photo that are taking up space. I'm moving more and more media to iCloud.

As for the processor, the 10900 or rumored variant should be great for my purposes. 10 cores and all that jazz.

Also hoping for the wifi 6, thunderbolt 38 and GDDR 98. (that was my attempt at "tech" humor). OH. And contrary to popular opinion, I want a silver option. Space Grey is over-greyed.

I really want a new design of course, but the screen size will be a huge plus in general for this buy either way.
 
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observations/questions, cause I'm not the biggest 'spec' guy.

According to those leaked benchmark's, the GPU is my biggest question mark. If it's the 5300 desktop version than it should handle my needs (drafting in CAD, cinema 4D, rendering). I'm unclear, is this 'NAVI1+'? I'm sure any GPU I'm getting will be leagues better than what I have now (Radeon Pro 555 2GB in my 2017 MacBook Pro). According to vectorworks, the biggest bottle neck I have is my GPU, so i'm planning on upgrading it to the best option available. This is where I need the biggest performance jump in looking to upgrade from my 2017 MBP (a machine I was 'gifted' by Apple and have appreciated but never would have bought).

I'll upgrade the RAM aftermarket (as I've read that's far more cost friendly), to 40GB, as that should be enough for me. I've been watching my system activity monitor and I only occasionally go over the 16GB I use right now.

1TB SSD, I've existed on 512GB with my machines for about the last 10 years but I've recently gotten into some huge files in Affinity Photo that are taking up space. I'm moving more and more media to iCloud.

As for the processor, the 10900 or rumored variant should be great for my purposes. 10 cores and all that jazz.

Also hoping for the wifi 6, thunderbolt 38 and GDDR 98. (that was my attempt at "tech" humor). OH. And contrary to popular opinion, I want a silver option. Space Grey is over-greyed.

I really want a new design of course, but the screen size will be a huge plus in general for this buy either way.

Hello Anthony,

That 5300. Part of me is saying that must be from a 21 inch update. If it's the 5300 (that thing from the Macbook Pro?) then it might suggest the iPad inspired design is 'slimmer' requiring more heat efficient gpus. Less 'bulge' from the back of the 'tear drop' iMac. 5300? I still think that's a typo for the 21 inch version. If 27 inch? Tier 1. But we 'hear' that the incoming iMac might be getting a price rise. If that is to £1950? A 5300 gpu in the new tier one would be very stingy.

This Navi1+. Rumours. Leaked tables. Tweets. Etc. Have suggested AMD is going to respin the RDNA1 (5700) and this could mean cheaper prices, less heat whilst giving a ten% clock boost for performance. That would suit a 27 inch iMac down to the ground. We can't rule out Apple giving the 5600'm' as a BTO option to the iMac? (£800. No thanks. May as well buy an eGPU with RDNA2 card for that...) My guess would be 5500, 5600, 5700(BTO). And we've seen leaks with that approximate gpu line up for the 27 inches. Any of those cards for you and me both will be a massive step up. Even the 5300 would do better than my 680MX or your current gpu for 3D work. A step up. For me, 8 years later. That's some progress. I'd like more though. Ergo my ambition for 5700(remember, this is a last year gpu...) as BTO/as standard on the top iMac tier with BTO RDNA2 (6500/6600M?) variant.

Any GPU will be progress. But from the sounds of your Vectorworks work loads...it sounds like get the best GPU that you can. That will be either a lower clocked 5700XT from last year? Or the new RDNA1+ process improvement version. For you? Me. This will be a transformative card. It will be worth a £450 BTO in your case. Which means, the fans don't have to kick in as much because it will take far more to push this card from your current workloads.

Using Zbrush (model/sculptor 3d app) I could really load up on polygons. I was surprised how well my 680MX could do. (It was in the top ten gpus of that year...2012...) But a 5700XT will be in another universe by comparison.

Plus. GPU rendering. I hear Cinema 4d (been a while since I've kept tabs on that...I remember it when it was up and coming in Computer Arts mag...) I was on a 3D course with someone who loved it's work flow back in its earlier days. Yeah. Gpu rendering with the 5700XT might speed up preview windows plus give an option for gpu rendering too.

Plus it will help run that 5k display. Much better than last year's gpu contender, the rx580. And if you want to run the casual game in HD 1080p then it should have to get out of bed much.

40 gigs RAM. That will allow your workload to really spread out. I'll go after market like yourself. But it will be nice to have a 3d render going on in the background (Lightwave3d, Blender 3d...) with Affinity software for image editing and design work.

1TB SSD is the smart move for OS and Apps. Though I'll go 1TB SSD. I think I'll have an external drive for apps. And another external drive for data. To keep my boot OS clean of the barnacles. Just a new approach I'm trying for the next iMac. (I found the programs and data eventually overwhelmed my 128 gig SSD portion of Fusion Drive and I ended up with slow boot...)

CPU. 10 core. If you're doing CAD or 3D in Cinema. 'Nuff said. 10 cores. 20 threads? That's the way to go. Plenty of future proofing there. Likely the cpu I'll be going for.

Colour. If they can offer the Macbook Air in colours or the iPad...let's hope we have silver and space grey as options.

And yes. A goddamn new design. Long overdue. :p Make biting the Intel legacy bullet a lot easier. It's going to be quite a bit of time before the large screen ARM iMac drops.

Azrael.
 
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Why? I don't get it. You've checked the forums so you know the tech is so overpriced and so dated and yet you still ordered for the full price. My head hurts man! Why oh why did you do it?

This is literally the worst time to buy the 2019 model unless you get crazy good deal. Why oh why did you do it?
My head....
Maybe I'm not making enough money because for me that would be crazy waste.
I do not comprehend! :-(


I don't know man-- I think the only negative thing about the 2019 model is the fact that to get a machine with any reasonable amount of built-in storage, you have to buy one with a fusion drive. Everything else about it is fine for most applications. I think Mr. Marshallfox's reasoning is pretty sound in that he's realistic in his appraisal of he needs.

I'm not so reasonable. My maxed out 2011 iMac was fine until a couple months ago when the GPU died. I should have been happy with whatever Apple had to offer at the time as a replacement but I made up my mind that I'm never going to make use of a spinning HD again. My problem is that I'm not a realist. I'm an enthusiast.

So like everyone else, I held out for WWDC. Now I'm screwed.

This wait is excruciating.
 
Redesign + Big Sur + Apple Silicon only for me

Drools. Big Sur. Yes, Sir!!!

Plus teh SeXy...AS.

"The new iMac. Sexy AS."

That's the kind of marketing...you dream about...

*tries to wait patiently. Figits.

Azrael.
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I don't know man-- I think the only negative thing about the 2019 model is the fact that to get a machine with any reasonable amount of built-in storage, you have to buy one with a fusion drive. Everything else about it is fine for most applications. I think Mr. Marshallfox's reasoning is pretty sound in that he's realistic in his appraisal of he needs.

I'm not so reasonable
. My maxed out 2011 iMac was fine until a couple months ago when the GPU died. I should have been happy with whatever Apple had to offer at the time as a replacement but I made up my mind that I'm never going to make use of a spinning HD again. My problem is that I'm not a realist. I'm an enthusiast.

So like everyone else, I held out for WWDC. Now I'm screwed.

This wait is excruciating.

Ah, I knew one day you'd come. My evil twin. :) (I could have written that post...darn...I wish I had...sheer bloody poetry...)

Same here. My GPU fried. Like an egg.

Being a deep Mac romantic...

Of course I yearn for a Mills and Boon iMac that will defeat the hordes of Windows single handed...atop a pile of DooM Eternal corpse PCs...

Azrael.

PS. NEVER to SPINNING DRIVE! DIE FUSION DRIVE!!! DIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! FOR FUSION SAKE, DIEEE!!!!!
 
Real talk though guys... I'm likely still going to get the AS iMac, at least the smaller/cheaper one that comes out first. My wife's a second-hand tech enthusiast by way of me. So when they announce it and I show her how sexy it is... She'll let me get it for her. We've been married over a decade I've got this stuff down to a science lol. I'm already planting the seeds and laying the groundwork. I set her up a workstation right next to mine in my office lol. All that's missing is that nice 24" iMac.
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I get all that and of course its your decision. I just don't understand it :)
The reason being is that 2015 is still fine machine so I would assume that it could keep you a little bit longer when you would get much better deal. Thats what I meant I guess.
I always look at value and current machine is not that. Thats why I questioned it.
Regardless, if you are happy thats all that counts but I just wouldn't do it and I know that I would regret it as soon as the new one is out. :)


I was in the market for a new one right now. I waited for WWDC, then a bit after to see about the new Intel. I got a machine that suits my needs and will for quite some time. Let's say it drops within the next couple of weeks, I may return it and get the new one. I'm giving this 2015 to my cousins who need it right now. The next best thing is always right around the corner right? Plus we'll likely get the first ARMs when they come out (MB for me and 23/24" Arm for the Mrs.). When the 27"/32" ARM comes out, if it's that much of difference in performance and i'm not getting by with the 2019, I'll upgrade and sell the 2019 or keep it as a family computer (I have a family of 6). I don't agree that it's a waste. Sorry for your headache.
 
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