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When do you expect an iMac redesign?

  • 4rd quarter 2019

    Votes: 34 4.1%
  • 1st quarter 2020

    Votes: 23 2.8%
  • 2nd quarter 2020

    Votes: 119 14.5%
  • 3rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 131 15.9%
  • 4rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 172 20.9%
  • 2021 or later

    Votes: 343 41.7%

  • Total voters
    822
  • Poll closed .
Apple moving the iMac to the iMac Pro chassis and cooling is almost certainly going to result in a not-insignificant price increase, you all realize. Probably minimum $500 when you factor in the price of the cooling system plus the new systemboard they will need to design to work around it. You will almost certainly also lose user-upgradeable RAM and of course SSD-only storage options.

So you all ready for the entry level iMac to run $2999 with 10th Gen i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD and Radeon Pro 5300?

And probably at or abover $4999 for a 10th Gen i9, 64GB RAM, 2TB SSD and Radeon Pro 5600/5700?
 
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Apple moving the iMac to the iMac Pro chassis and cooling is almost certainly going to result in a not-insignificant price increase, you all realize. Probably minimum $500 when you factor in the price of the cooling system plus the new systemboard they will need to design to work around it. You will almost certainly also lose user-upgradeable RAM and of course SSD-only storage options.

So you all ready for the entry level iMac to run $2999 with 10th Gen i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD and Radeon Pro 5300?

And probably at or abover $4999 for a 10th Gen i9, 64GB RAM, 2TB SSD and Radeon Pro 5600/5700?

yes of cause, they will completely disrupt their pricing And leave a Gigant gab starting at 2000€... think Bro.
 
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Apple moving the iMac to the iMac Pro chassis and cooling is almost certainly going to result in a not-insignificant price increase, you all realize. Probably minimum $500 when you factor in the price of the cooling system plus the new systemboard they will need to design to work around it. You will almost certainly also lose user-upgradeable RAM and of course SSD-only storage options.

So you all ready for the entry level iMac to run $2999 with 10th Gen i5, 16GB RAM, 512GB SSD and Radeon Pro 5300?

And probably at or abover $4999 for a 10th Gen i9, 64GB RAM, 2TB SSD and Radeon Pro 5600/5700?
So it will be like buying a new car at full retail price a couple months before a completely redesigned better model comes out, and then having super buyers remorse, and to top it off, good luck on that resale/trade value.

Something seems fishy to me about this whole thing. Right from the start of the WWDC rumor and pull back. Something is off here. Well, maybe Apple is off... Love my Apple stuff, but it wouldn't be the first time they f'ed up.
 
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yes of cause, they will completely disrupt their pricing And leave a Gigant gab starting at 2000€... think Bro.

That can be covered with the 24" Apple Silicon model with pricing as such:
  • $1499 for 8GB and 256GB storage
  • $1999 for 16GB and 512GB storage
  • $2499 for 32GB and 1TB storage
And for the record, I do not believe Apple will move the Intel iMac 5K to the iMac Pro chassis. I'm not sure they will drop Fusion for the Intel iMac 5K, for that matter.

But if they do both, to believe the base iMac 5K will still be $1799-1999 is, frankly, laughable.
 
That can be covered with the 24" Apple Silicon model with pricing as such:
  • $1499 for 8GB and 256GB storage
  • $1999 for 16GB and 512GB storage
  • $2499 for 32GB and 1TB storage
And for the record, I do not believe Apple will move the Intel iMac 5K to the iMac Pro chassis. I'm not sure they will drop Fusion, for that matter.
you might be a little light on the build to order models. Apple's pricing is usally good for the base model and then quickly goes wild as you start adding things. I don't see this any different.
 
I’ll let these twitter clowns type away like they matter and wait and see. At this point I’ve been saving like crazy since January, I’ll just keep storing my pennies.
 
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Something seems fishy to me about this whole thing. Right from the start of the WWDC rumor and pull back. Something is off here. Well, maybe Apple is off... Love my Apple stuff, but it wouldn't be the first time they f'ed up.

I just believe there is too much disinformation being spread via these Twitter accounts, driven primarily by trying to grab attention by posting what they see people wishing for.

To me, the most logical thing for Apple to do is keep the existing Intel design for the 27" iMac 5K and just add in new CPUs (including a custom lower-TDP i9 as seen in Geekbench) and RDNA 1.0 Radeon Pro GPUs (5300, 5500, 5600). That way they can leverage their existing manufacturing and parts bins for one more generation until they are ready to kick Intel to the curb (with the likely exceptions of the iMac Pro and Mac Pro and maybe a 16" MacBook Pro).


you might be a little light on the build to order models. Apple's pricing is usally good for the base model and then quickly goes wild as you start adding things. I don't see this any different.

I believe Apple does have more flexibility with Apple Silicon upgrade pricing than they did with Intel. Memory and storage controllers will be integrated into the SoC and iPad Pro storage upgrades are similar to 21.5" iMac SSD upgrades at $200 per 512GB which would leave the balance to cover the RAM and the larger form factor (and when you factor in the savings on an AS SoC versus an Intel CPU+chipset, I think they can hit the $1499 price point and still enjoy very nice margins).
 
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lol was coming here to mention twitter user Jioriku's recent flurry of tweets, glad someone else picked out the two "no intel redesign" then the extremely odd proposition that the AS redesign will also float to the intel model after the AS model is announced? Split product line? Odd, that's one I'm gonna have to wait until I see it to believe it.
 
I feel like this is going to be a HUGE iMac update.

Reasons:
  1. It's been too long without a major redesign. From the front, the current iMac looks exactly the same as my 2010 one. TEN YEARS of a computer looking the same!!
  2. After 20 years, the OS is going from X (10) to 11. That feels like it warrants recognition in the machines' redesigns across the board.
  3. With Apple silicon and Big Sur allowing native iOS and iPadOS apps, *most* of the applications on Macs will be touch first applications.
  4. Tied into the previous point, Big Sur looks like it's meant for touch.
  5. Apple won't likely want to put touch screens on Macs without a good story about why it's no longer an ergonomics issue as they'd argued previously. That means they'll likely do something like the Surface Studio form factor.
  6. This is less likely to factor in as the COVID pandemic is relatively new, but I believe desktop computers will have a resurgence as fewer people are carrying their computers back and forth to workplaces and desktops offer more bang for the buck.
 
It's quite weird that now people are listening to leakers that have like 1000 followers and not really good track record. If someone says "New intel iMac *could* be released this week" it's not a leaker, it's just a guesser.

I understand that people are frustrated about the iMac, which became just another product that is forgotten by Apple for many years, because it is not making that main profit.

If Apple was Porsche, they would still produce a 996/997, because Cayenne is making several times more money. But it doesn't work like that if the company is really smart. Every product that makes the product-line complete is important and the heritage and enthusiastic customer base is as important as profits.

The funny thing is that people don't expect miracles, they just want to have an up-to-date computer every year and a redesign (evolution) every few years. Computers are not cars, they doesn't need years to be developed, yet Apple is pretending they need such a long time to produce something.

not sure why these random twitter accounts are getting attention either

btw this guy said imac at wwdc before, back in June... so...

 
They're not going to keep the same factor from the last 10 years AND increase the price that much. I'd like to believe they are adopting the cooling system of the iMac Pro but also see CWallace's point on that. Although if you knock that hypothetical model down to a 1TB and 32GB's of ram, you're probably at 2500, and i could see paying that for that machine.

So much of the entire situation makes no sense to me on multiple fronts, which leads me to believe we may just wake up to a disappointing minor spec bump. But I'm also super jonesing for any good news, and these long days coup'ed up with no end in sight to the pandemic make me hopeful there's atleast something exciting about this update. Based on the rumors I've seen, I dont think we're getting the larger AS iMac until Fall 2021 at the earliest.
 
I feel like this is going to be a HUGE iMac update.

Reasons:
  1. It's been too long without a major redesign. From the front, the current iMac looks exactly the same as my 2010 one. TEN YEARS of a computer looking the same!!
  2. After 20 years, the OS is going from X (10) to 11. That feels like it warrants recognition in the machines' redesigns across the board.
  3. With Apple silicon and Big Sur allowing native iOS and iPadOS apps, *most* of the applications on Macs will be touch first applications.
  4. Tied into the previous point, Big Sur looks like it's meant for touch.
  5. Apple won't likely want to put touch screens on Macs without a good story about why it's no longer an ergonomics issue as they'd argued previously. That means they'll likely do something like the Surface Studio form factor.
  6. This is less likely to factor in as the COVID pandemic is relatively new, but I believe desktop computers will have a resurgence as fewer people are carrying their computers back and forth to workplaces and desktops offer more bang for the buck.

1. that’s what people would have told you the last couple of revisions. And it’s a less than 8 year old design, not a ten year old design.
2. this is Not a Big Sur machine IF it was supposed to be out for a long time already. If this is a Big Sur machine it will not arrive tomorrow.
3. we are Talking Intel Right now. Arm Imac next year, if your lucky later this year. No rumors suggesting touch displays at all.
4. this is Not going to be a touchscreen os in 2021. Mind you People already have the code. We would know.
5. Absolutely. But not tomorrow, not this year. Probably not even 2021 (iMac) since that’s when the first arm iMac is supposed to hit.
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not sure why these random twitter accounts are getting attention either

btw this guy said imac at wwdc before, back in June... so...

I will say this over and over again. That Apple leaks (rumors) account is the dirt worst. I never saw that guy call anything concret or let alone first.
 
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The weird thing with all these leakers claiming these new design features coming "real soon now", we should be seeing pictures of these chassis. MCK and others have direct contacts in the supply chain so we should be seeing these new chassis if they were in production (or even production-line validation). We saw the 2016 MBP case a couple of months before launch with the gap everyone was guessing about that was revealed to be the TouchBar.

And frankly at this point one really can't say "nobody cares about the Mac" considering how much Twitter-bait is flying around. So that makes me wonder if they are either guessing or we're not close to "real soon now".
 
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1. that’s what people would have told you the last couple of revisions. And it’s a less than 8 year old design, not a ten year old design.
2. this is Not a Big Sur machine IF it was supposed to be out for a long time already. If this is a Big Sur machine it will not arrive tomorrow.
3. we are Talking Intel Right now. Arm Imac next year, if your lucky later this year. No rumors suggesting touch displays at all.
4. this is Not going to be a touchscreen os in 2021. Mind you People already have the code. We would know.
5. Absolutely. But not tomorrow, not this year. Probably not even 2021 (iMac) since that’s when the first arm iMac is supposed to hit.

The pushback on timing is fair enough. I'm in the market for a new iMac but won't buy one unless it's a radical redesign. Not when Apple has indicated that touch screens are coming through iOS compatability and what I'm seeing in Big Sur's visual hints. I stand by my comment about this being a very old design. Here's the 2009 version and I would challenge anyone to tell the difference between this one and the current one without seeing it from the side. So 11 years with (more or less) the same design.
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The pushback on timing is fair enough. I'm in the market for a new iMac but won't buy one unless it's a radical redesign. Not when Apple has indicated that touch screens are coming through iOS compatability and what I'm seeing in Big Sur's visual hints. I stand by my comment about this being a very old design. Here's the 2009 version and I would challenge anyone to tell the difference between this one and the current one without seeing it from the side. So 11 years with (more or less) the same design.
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I got a secret for you here. If you are actually using the computer you are looking into the screen, not around it. So if you want to shun people from looking at it from the side, be shuned into looking into the actual display to do computer things with your computer.
Apple never officially said Touch is coming to MacOS. It will probably happen, but honestly for a first step i see MacOS coming to touch (i.e. being a option on a iPad Pro - but again, not now, because it just is not in the code)
Also fairly certain the actually old iMac did not come with the smaller BT keyboard and that mouse. At least i remember having to handle the clitoris mouse.
 
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I got a secret for you here. If you are actually using the computer you are looking into the screen, not around it. So if you want to shun people from looking at it from the side, be shuned into looking into the actual display to do computer things with your computer.
Apple never officially said Touch is coming to MacOS. It will probably happen, but honestly for a first step i see MacOS coming to touch (i.e. being a option on a iPad Pro - but again, not now, because it just is not in the code)
Good points all around, and I wonder what internal updates we might get. WiFi 6? Brighter screen? Does the 2019 have true tone? T2 Chip?
 
That guy that leaked the "Monday iMac, Tuesday headphones, Wednesday HomePod" by now promised to quit twitter if he was not right, he also is being a massive bitch about people stealing his leaks among other things. It's kindergarten hour. Sadly thats proof of nothing since... well, it's twitter.
 
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This is going to be the last hurrah for the normal iMac in its current design form, so I highly doubt it. They will instead use custom (down clocked) Intel CPUs to meet the current, awful, thermal design.

It ended not with a bang...but with a whimper...

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We know Apple’s playbook by now. You know they’ll throw in some feature compelling enough to entice those who can’t wait any longer to buy an iMac.

It really could be as simple as offering it in Space Grey. Or maybe they drop in FaceID. Regardless, I suspect it’ll be tricked out to the max (as max as Intel can offer). They’ll have to sell this with a straight face knowing they’re still peddling a decade old design.

'If you need a Mac...buy one right now.' Craig Fed'. :p

Azrael.
 
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He keeps on saying iPad Pro on october 27th, yet others have said it will be March 25th either they know what they are talking about or they are just saying whatever pops into their heads
 
These leakers are starting to sound like a big disinformation campaign. I don't believe any of them know anything. Some are just repeating what they read here. Any one of us could have guessed at any of these same rumors. The only solid thing is Tim's "Intel in the Pipeline" statement, and some iffy geekbench post. The rest of this is simply wishful thinking and bla bla bla. As far as AS, I do think that Apple will dribble it out in bits to make sure it works as expected and to get everyone used to it and required resources flowing, before moving it up the lines, so some patience here will be needed.
 
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