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When do you expect an iMac redesign?

  • 4rd quarter 2019

    Votes: 34 4.1%
  • 1st quarter 2020

    Votes: 23 2.8%
  • 2nd quarter 2020

    Votes: 119 14.5%
  • 3rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 131 15.9%
  • 4rd quarter 2020

    Votes: 172 20.9%
  • 2021 or later

    Votes: 343 41.7%

  • Total voters
    822
  • Poll closed .
Sounds to me like August speed bump, 24" AS imac late year (at earliest) with early 21 ship. 27" AS/redesign, maybe preview with the 24 announcement. Anyway, this is what I surmise from all the rumors and tweets and articles so far.
 
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iMac, some models out of store stock for over two month now, is listed for the 18th on apples homepage to return to every single store in Europe... previously only listed as "not available for pickup" for said several month of unavailability.
What more do you want?

That doesn't means anything... it's months that the availability dates for in stock models changes between august and september
 
I wonder how they're gonna cool these power hungry chips without a redesign.

I'm gonna go with "not very well"

exactly! The whole reason I’m just thinking of getting the old iMac Pro.

sure it’s “long in the tooth” as people are saying on here but look at reviews. Mostly 5 star with most saying it’s the best Mac they’ve ever owned.

I’ll take that over a glowing hot chassis with a fan constantly running.
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Sounds to me like August speed bump, 24" AS imac late year (at earliest) with early 21 ship. 27" AS/redesign, maybe preview with the 24 announcement. Anyway, this is what I surmise from all the rumors and tweets and articles so far.

let’s see how fast they get this new 24 out with supply issues, COVID spiking again and likely to get worse in the colder months on top of Apple’s usual supply/demand issues.

if they announce it in fall maybe you’ll be able to get one by Spring.
 
exactly! The whole reason I’m just thinking of getting the old iMac Pro.

sure it’s “long in the tooth” as people are saying on here but look at reviews. Mostly 5 star with most saying it’s the best Mac they’ve ever owned.

I’ll take that over a glowing hot chassis with a fan constantly running.

I can attest to the fact that for my audio production use, the imp fan never comes on to where I can even notice it. that and the 10 cores and the fast drives make this still very capable.
 
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They increased and revised the cooling of the Mac mini in 2018. It was mainly an internal redesign. New CPU, new thunderbolt controller, new T2 chip...

Hope the iMac will have the same revision. The design is not *that* bad. I'm still amazed when I see a 27 inch iMac sitting on a desk. But revising the internals seems mandatory, really. If they don't do so, it's going to be a flop.
 
The biggest problem I see with this bump is that imacs (especially bto ones) are expensive. Some very expensive. And resale value on a new design/new chip cycle is going to be way less than people have been used to. Just beware of your investment and expectations along those lines.
 
The biggest problem I see with this bump is that imacs (especially bto ones) are expensive. Some very expensive. And resale value on a new design/new chip cycle is going to be way less than people have been used to. Just beware of your investment and expectations along those lines.
Very true. You won’t be able to resell you 2020 mac intel as high as before.
 
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That design is so ugly in todays standards. Its just shocking how bad it is. I hope iPhone will start to flop soon as that is probably the only way for Apple to wake the fusion up.

AS has potential and it has potential to introduce much better pricing for customers. Will Apple do it? Unlikely but it would be nice. Recent pricing is getting ridiculous.


I think Prosser is probably right and it will be August. We had a tweet saying 19th and now one saying 24th.

 
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Actually the current imac design is akin to having the iphone 11 in the iphone 8 form factor.
 
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I missed that part.
you mean for bto models?

No. In store pickups all over Europe switched from "not available for pickup" to "available to pickup on 18th of august" yesterday. (excluding the highest tier 27 inch iMac wich is listed available 30th of September in all stores).
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Very true. You won’t be able to resell you 2020 mac intel as high as before.

Dude, the atrocious 12 inch MacBook still sells for 500-600€. Apple sheep will pay premium on everything.
 
The trolls with fake Twitter accounts are out and having a bit of fun at our expense.

It doesn’t help that every Mac site is posting up every rumour, without any regard for truth and integrity. No, they’re not journalists by any stretch of the imagination, and I get it all about page views and ad dollars. And of course I don’t have to click on the articles.

I mean... we didn't post it :)

arn
 
That doesn't means anything... it's months that the availability dates for in stock models changes between august and september

Yes bro, that big giant shipment to supply all the stores in Europe again.................... with old models. Clear as day thats what will happen that date.
 
I wonder how they're gonna cool these power hungry chips without a redesign.

I'm gonna go with "not very well"

95w. Power hungry. (And those are the 'lower power' chips...Apple are waiting for? See Geekbench leak.)

2019 iMac owners seem to think so.

If I did anything remotely exherting my iMac would 'take off...'

WHHHRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

Azrael.
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not sure if anyone noticed... but the twitter account that posted the whole "Monday" thing, deleted his tweet.


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Monday, Schmonday.

Prosser didn't seem to think so.

Going to Apple.com.

iMac. Still ancient.

Azrael.
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That design is so ugly in todays standards. Its just shocking how bad it is. I hope iPhone will start to flop soon as that is probably the only way for Apple to wake the fusion up.

AS has potential and it has potential to introduce much better pricing for customers. Will Apple do it? Unlikely but it would be nice. Recent pricing is getting ridiculous.

What happened to the Apple that held up an iBook alongside the equivalent dell...?

One was slimmer, yes. But also had the latest great design.

Not 12 year old design with 12 year old bezels.

Oil Tanker bezels vs Infinity Bezels.

Bleedin' 'ell, Apple...

Azrael.
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I can attest to the fact that for my audio production use, the imp fan never comes on to where I can even notice it. that and the 10 cores and the fast drives make this still very capable.

iMac Pro.

A damn fine iMac. At £2.5k? I'd buy that.

But the consumer model should have evolved into it by now.

www.Milkedit.com

Azrael.
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I mean... we didn't post it :)

arn

Actually, Tim Apple should read Macrumours Mac Product guides for when to update the Mac line...

Azrael.
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Sounds to me like August speed bump, 24" AS imac late year (at earliest) with early 21 ship. 27" AS/redesign, maybe preview with the 24 announcement. Anyway, this is what I surmise from all the rumors and tweets and articles so far.

Xgman,

That sounds about right to me. Nothing doing in August apart from iMac.

July. iEarth.
August. iMac.
Sept. iPhone (zzzzz.)
Oct. AS MB.

See? One product per month. Even 1.5 trillion apple should be able to do that...

Azrael.
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No. In store pickups all over Europe switched from "not available for pickup" to "available to pickup on 18th of august" yesterday. (excluding the highest tier 27 inch iMac wich is listed available 30th of September in all stores).

Hmm.

Apple all over the place.

That August date-ish seems like a point of convergence between this and Prosser and...

Azrael.
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They increased and revised the cooling of the Mac mini in 2018. It was mainly an internal redesign. New CPU, new thunderbolt controller, new T2 chip...

Hope the iMac will have the same revision. The design is not *that* bad. I'm still amazed when I see a 27 inch iMac sitting on a desk. But revising the internals seems mandatory, really. If they don't do so, it's going to be a flop.

Good point on the Mac Mini 2018.

Two years later we're still waiting for a cooling revision.

The iMac Pro has had decent cooling for 3 years now.

Come on, Apple, pull your iStale finger out.

Azrael.
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Actually the current imac design is akin to having the iphone 11 in the iphone 8 form factor.

That's an excellent point.

Azrael.
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Very true. You won’t be able to resell you 2020 mac intel as high as before.

Great point.

IF Apple raise prices on this one...you'll pay more going in...and get reamed going out (resell value...) as the AS iMacs will trash compactor resell prices on Intel iMac.

Win Win for Apple.

Lose Lose. For the customer.

Azrael.
 
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The lottery starts again: it's today, nope it's on wednesday... no! It's the 18th august, but why not, the 24th... but why stop here? It will be the 28th december... 2154!

Like iMac bingo?

Azrael.
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Yeah, got tired of waiting and slapped together a "Hack Pro" with some spare parts. Much easier nowadays!

I've been researching this. Still am.

Once spec I saw. £700.

Dual boot Win/Hack. rx5700 4gig gpu. 8 core 3700XT cpu. 32 gigs of ram. x2 250 gig SSDs to run Win/Hack. With a big 'Be QUiet' cooler on the cpu.

I'd take that for that price. Leaving me just the monitor to get.

Thinking about doing it.

Azrael.
 
At which point do we stop about the shipping times etc.? It has been like this for WEEKS and it keeps shifting all the time. By now we know its not an indicator (as otherwise we would have the update already) so can we just leave this for good? Eventually we will be right but only by sheer luck and not because its valid. Covid messed everything (as we can see) so lets gossip about RDNA2? :p

No. In store pickups all over Europe switched from "not available for pickup" to "available to pickup on 18th of august" yesterday. (excluding the highest tier 27 inch iMac wich is listed available 30th of September in all stores).
 
I’m beginning to wonder if I should just bite the bullet and go with the MacBook 16”. August 24th? Really? Wait another month for a damn spec bump?

Depends on you. Whether you need mobility vs a stationary desktop.

I never did like craptops, meh self.

Azrael.
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At which point do we stop about the shipping times etc.? It has been like this for WEEKS and it keeps shifting all the time. By now we know its not an indicator (as otherwise we would have the update already) so can we just leave this for good? Eventually we will be right but only by sheer luck and not because its valid. Covid messed everything (as we can see) so lets gossip about RDNA2? :p

Speaking of which...


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...and a prima on RDNA2.

From Tom's Hardware.

Charts. Prices. Info. Power. What 'we' know so far.


Azrael.
 
Having read the last few pages of this thread (and the internet in general), the take away from it is basically:

  • Don’t buy the current iMac’s because they’re outdated and overpriced.
  • Don’t buy the new Intel iMac when it’s released because it’ll be overpriced and the new processor will overheat and be subject to throttling. Also the new Apple silicon will be coming soon so it’ll be redundant in a couple of years anyway but…
  • Don’t wait for the new Apple silicon, wait a couple of years before buying because things probably won’t transition smoothly (third party software, DAW’s, VST’s etc..)
  • Don’t buy a Windows PC because new AMD processors are coming along with next gen AMD and Nvidia GPU’s

What exactly are we supposed to do?
 
Having read the last few pages of this thread (and the internet in general), the take away from it is basically:

  • Don’t buy the current iMac’s because they’re outdated and overpriced.
  • Don’t buy the new Intel iMac when it’s released because it’ll be overpriced and the new processor will overheat and be subject to throttling. Also the new Apple silicon will be coming soon so it’ll be redundant in a couple of years anyway but…
  • Don’t wait for the new Apple silicon, wait a couple of years before buying because things probably won’t transition smoothly (third party software, DAW’s, VST’s etc..)
  • Don’t buy a Windows PC because new AMD processors are coming along with next gen AMD and Nvidia GPU’s

What exactly are we supposed to do?

Wait.

Azrael.
 
Having read the last few pages of this thread (and the internet in general), the take away from it is basically:

  • Don’t buy the current iMac’s because they’re outdated and overpriced.
  • Don’t buy the new Intel iMac when it’s released because it’ll be overpriced and the new processor will overheat and be subject to throttling. Also the new Apple silicon will be coming soon so it’ll be redundant in a couple of years anyway but…
  • Don’t wait for the new Apple silicon, wait a couple of years before buying because things probably won’t transition smoothly (third party software, DAW’s, VST’s etc..)
  • Don’t buy a Windows PC because new AMD processors are coming along with next gen AMD and Nvidia GPU’s

What exactly are we supposed to do?

Buy the 2019 iMac. It has great reviews. A solid computer that, although an old design, will perform very well. I think the redesign will be next year and we don't know with things going sideways in the world everything is unpredictable.

That's my vote.

BTW, right after the keynote in WWDC I just purchased a maxed out iMac i9 with 2tb SSD and couldn't be happier.
 
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Having read the last few pages of this thread (and the internet in general), the take away from it is basically:

  • Don’t buy the current iMac’s because they’re outdated and overpriced.
  • Don’t buy the new Intel iMac when it’s released because it’ll be overpriced and the new processor will overheat and be subject to throttling. Also the new Apple silicon will be coming soon so it’ll be redundant in a couple of years anyway but…
  • Don’t wait for the new Apple silicon, wait a couple of years before buying because things probably won’t transition smoothly (third party software, DAW’s, VST’s etc..)
  • Don’t buy a Windows PC because new AMD processors are coming along with next gen AMD and Nvidia GPU’s

What exactly are we supposed to do?

Exactly. Wait. If you have a working computer, wait. 2020 is really not a good year to buy new techs.
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Buy the 2019 iMac. It has great reviews. A solid computer that, although an old design, will perform very well. I think the redesign will be next year and we don't know with things going sideways in the world everything is unpredictable
Overpriced for 2017 tech.
 
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Well if I change it to the i9 and keep the Fusion drive it says 08/10/2020 - 14/10/2020 but if change the fusion drive SSD the dates change to 19/08/2020 - 26/08/2020.

So maybe there is something going on? This is doing my head in!!!

These leakers are a bit like the people who don't want to wear masks (due to covid) and make a big huff & puff about it. perhaps I am guilty of sharing their tweets and buying into it.
Strange, the i9 with fusion drive (2Tb) i 1-2 week but if I change it to 2Tb SSD or 3Tb fusion drive , it goes to 8-9 week.COVID-19 shortage of components.
 
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