Windows 11

[maflynn]

...but only their own ! And additionnally that integration works only well with paid cloud subscriptions.

This both windows/macs strength and Achille's heal. Windows supports a huge array of hardware, software and services, on a level that macOS could never come close, but on the other hand, since Apple controls the hardware and software the integrations they do support are typically better in how its implemented

Nor microsoft neither Apple have my credit card number. And without that the integration between devices using local resources is better in Microsoft's universe.

So I assume then you don't pay for any MS or Apple services? You mentioned android, does google have your credit card? While on one level I agree that I prefer not having CC given to anyone, if I need to operate on any level and use any service/software then some companies will need my credit card. On a score of 1 to 10 safety/security, having either Apple or MS store my credit card, I would rank them 9. I'm sure Google is just as good, but since I don't pay for any google services, there's no reason to store my cc.

 

[rin67630]

So I assume then you don't pay for any MS or Apple services? You mentioned android, does google have your credit card?

Neither. Should I want to pay for an app or service, I would do it over a prepaid card.
Else, once they have your payment data, it's just too easy to slip into a subscription scheme.

 

[maflynn]

Microsoft addresses Windows Recall backlash, promises to fix security issues and make it opt-in

Additionally, Microsoft says it will make Windows Recall an opt-in experience, meaning it won't be enabled by default on Copilot+ PCs. Users will be prompted to enable or disable it during Windows Setup, and if they choose not to enable It, the feature will not function.

Looks like it will not be enabled by default.

 

[LeeW]

On a score of 1 to 10 safety/security, having either Apple or MS store my credit card, I would rank them 9. I'm sure Google is just as good, but since I don't pay for any google services, there's no reason to store my cc.

I would agree with that. Giving someone like Apple, MS or Google my card is not committing anything to the Devil. I would be way less comfortable giving it directly to an app provider.

In any event, I have an account with Revolut, an online-only bank in the UK. Its only purpose is internet transactions, and it only ever has enough money to pay for transactions and subscriptions. If I am making a one-off purchase, I just move the money from my main bank to Revolut. It takes seconds, so it's no big deal.

For me, that's just common sense. I don't want my main banking account disrupted by a cancelled card because of fraud, and it's not usable for any time. It also provides virtual one-time cards for those I am more wary of.

Looks like it will not be enabled by default.

Right approach. Opt in, not opt out.

 

[maflynn]

Microsoft pulls release preview build of Windows 11 24H2 after Recall controversy

Looks like they're pulling preview to re-work Recall given the pushback