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BanjoDudeAhoy

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I made the right call switching in 2020. Thank you Apple Silicon for making the Mac good and turning me from a hater to a lover.
Ah, a fellow 2020 switcher. Hello 👋

Technically, my partner and I had our first Macs in 2019, but it was in 2020 I made an (Intel) Macbook Pro my daily driver.
One of the reasons that made me switch is that Microsoft introduced a dark mode in Windows 10 all the way back in 2016 - and to this day it's not working consistently. Not in 10 and not in 11.
Oh, and I find that the Office suite works better on Mac than on Windows.
 

Unregistered 4U

macrumors G4
Jul 22, 2002
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So at Ignite 2022 Microsoft had a little teaser for Windows 12 and uh...well see for yourself:

windows-12.jpg


They're not even hiding it anymore. Aside from the lack of a menu bar and that ugly Windows search at the top, it's straight up macOS.

You know what this means right? THE MAC IS BACK BABY! You know the Mac is good again if it's being directly copied again.

Welp get ready for Mac vs PC 3. It's coming.
Every computer made is some variant UI of macOS. Every phone made is some variant UI of iOS. :)
 

spiderman0616

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Aug 1, 2010
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I made the right call switching in 2020. Thank you Apple Silicon for making the Mac good and turning me from a hater to a lover.
I stuck it out through the last service pack of Windows 7, which brought my state of the art gaming PC of the day to its knees for some reason. That had been preceded by multiple Xbox 360 hardware failures and I had already bought an iPad and iPhone at that point. It was time.

To be fair though, I also just got done sticking out some bad years on the Mac too, at least as far as MacBooks are concerned. Thankfully my patience has paid off, because these new ones are amazing. So now I've switched a majority of my iPad work BACK over to the Mac since it finally has silicon that beats an iPad. For a while there, I just used MacBooks like desktop PCs because I was afraid to break the keyboards and the battery life was garbage.
 

turbineseaplane

macrumors P6
Mar 19, 2008
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I just went back to Windows 10 this weekend (from 11) to avoid secure boot/anti-cheat hassles from the new EA FIFA game (and I'm sure others coming out soon)

It was a refreshing reversion. Just seems snappier and simpler -- less bloated if you will.
 

Danfango

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Jan 4, 2022
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I just went back to Windows 10 this weekend (from 11) to avoid secure boot/anti-cheat hassles from the new EA FIFA game (and I'm sure others coming out soon)

It was a refreshing reversion. Just seems snappier and simpler -- less bloated if you will.
I have an Windows machine in a qemu VM as I still have to maintain something on Windows NT 4 which is beyond obsolete.

It boots in under 3 seconds in a VM emulating a different CPU.

Now that's snappy. The funny thing is it has Office 97 on it and that's actually not all that different to Office 365...
 

Spaceboi Scaphandre

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I just went back to Windows 10 this weekend (from 11) to avoid secure boot/anti-cheat hassles from the new EA FIFA game (and I'm sure others coming out soon)

It was a refreshing reversion. Just seems snappier and simpler -- less bloated if you will.

Just wait until you try SteamOS then and you'll wonder how the hell you ever lived with Windows 10.
 
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usagora

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That really looks awful. It's like they stole the look but missed the reasoning.

Looks very nice/clean to me 🤷🏼‍♂️ And of course I'm sure their version of the "dock" can be relocated/customized/resized to your liking.
 

eltoslightfoot

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Feb 25, 2011
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Looks very nice/clean to me 🤷🏼‍♂️ And of course I'm sure their version of the "dock" can be relocated/customized/resized to your liking.
You are sure of this....why? They have two sizes. Huge and small in Win 7/10/11. If that's what you mean, then okay?
 

usagora

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You are sure of this....why? They have two sizes. Huge and small in Win 7/10/11. If that's what you mean, then okay?

Of course this doesn't look like the traditional Windows taskbar, so we're probably discussing the wrong paradigm, but I just looked it up and apparently in Windows 11 you can actually get 3 sizes for the taskbar with a simple registry edit.
 

LotusLord

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Thank god my job we aren't upgrading to it and are staying on 10.
That's not an option forever- 10 goes end of support in Q4 2025 unless something changes. We are all iPadOS on the route sales side and looking into moving their immediate supervisors onto iPad as well. If we can get to a usable state where managers can do what they need away from Windows even 90% of the time we will likely do so, but I don't think we'll escape a Windows 11 (or 12?) refresh completely.
 

Xand&Roby

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Jun 13, 2020
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MS sucks. Apple too.
That’s not time for Aqua vs Millenium Edition, MacOS UX is far enough from that miracle of os, with a mix from iOS, watchOS, all remixed at worst.
So it’s not MS that is better, it’s Apple that is worst.
Btw if designers aren’t necessary and we needs only engineers this is the way..
 
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eltoslightfoot

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Of course this doesn't look like the traditional Windows taskbar, so we're probably discussing the wrong paradigm, but I just looked it up and apparently in Windows 11 you can actually get 3 sizes for the taskbar with a simple registry edit.
Okay? I mean that's good, I guess. I think it's lame. The coolness of windows for me is that it has corners. It isn't trying to be mac. It isn't trying to light and airy. It has color for crying out loud. It doesn't have random things floating up top for no reason. It has a freaking system tray. This is so bad.
 

usagora

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Nov 17, 2017
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Okay? I mean that's good, I guess. I think it's lame. The coolness of windows for me is that it has corners. It isn't trying to be mac. It isn't trying to light and airy. It has color for crying out loud. It doesn't have random things floating up top for no reason. It has a freaking system tray. This is so bad.

Alrighty then.

Will be interesting to see what the official release looks/works like.
 

t0rqx

macrumors 68000
Nov 27, 2021
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This look like a copy/paste artwork from a kid at school presenting how Windows would look like if it adapted the MacOS layout.

EDIT: Oh did not realize this was the real deal.
 

uller6

macrumors 65816
May 14, 2010
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I have an Windows machine in a qemu VM as I still have to maintain something on Windows NT 4 which is beyond obsolete.

It boots in under 3 seconds in a VM emulating a different CPU.

Now that's snappy. The funny thing is it has Office 97 on it and that's actually not all that different to Office 365...
I keep a winXP VM around for some mission-critical work. But crossover made my life a lot easier on the M1. Crossover bottles dedicated to each program are way smaller than even a winXP VM.
 
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klasma

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Jun 8, 2017
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The problem is that the UX designers that Microsoft is now employing are not Windows users, but Mac users (because otherwise you’re not a hip UX designer nowadays), and therefore they believe that Windows should look like what they’re used to, that is, like MacOS.

As a Windows user, I don’t know what I will do if they continue that route and when replacements like OpenShell will eventually stop working. It really sucks if you like classic Windows UX.
 
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