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Windows 7 is actually pretty nice, now worried about Mac
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I'm sure a lot of people don't like the iPad. Doesn't matter, though, Apple has sold a TON of 'em, and will continue to do so. I think you, like many people, have misunderstood the target market. Computer "enthusiasts" are not the people who are going to determine the future of personal computing...Joe Consumer is. And Joe loves the iPad. Apple doesn't have to convert the world to the iPad, they only need (want) to sell enough of them to be profitable. Not every pitch has to be a home run. The team can still win with several base hits. In this case however, looks like a pretty long ball.
Anyway, read this article when you have a moment. I think that perhaps your immersion in your computer hobby has given you a general misunderstanding of the personal computer market, especially as it relates to mobile devices like the iPad.
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/04/16/51-of-ipad-buyers-own-windows-pcs/
"Computer enthusiasts" (I love nice euphemisms) are good at figuring out tech, but not the market.
How do you determine that? I've been running OSX on this computer for years, Snow Leopard since it came out. I perceive no slowdown, and Geekbench scores are the same or faster than when it was new. Perhaps you're using some different benchmark that causes you to make that statement?
By actually using it for several hours every day. It gets sluggish, more sluggish, then frankly pathetically sluggish. Same on the white MB I had. Then my MBP, and now my current UBMB. Same with Tiger, then with Leopard, then with Snow Leopard.
When it gets to a point that it's 5 seconds between hitting 'play' and a track in iTunes actually starting, it becomes a joke. Safari turns to a treacle like insult to browsing. iPhoto is just crap to use at that stage.
I've taken notes over time. No one app being installed causes it. I always have >100gb of HDD free. My machine gets proper restarts every few days. It spends most of it's time actually on (re cron jobs)
Nothing is taking large CPU occupancy via activity monitor.
It just gets slower and slower to a point of being crap.
Meanwhile, my Win 7 machine is still snappy after 5 months , my XP netbook is crisp and awesome after 18 months.
Of course, I'm often told (within a paragraph of being told the Registry on Windows is pure evil) to 'repair my permissions'. Done it. Done it a dozen times. No change.
Stop pretending OSX is some magical cure-all for computing. It really really really isn't.
I pretended no such thing. There are some things I like about Windows 7. The reason I use OSX instead is that there are more things I dislike about it.
Having said that, I am confident that the bulk of the pretense in this thread rests with you. Your post above is, well...pretty laughable.
Xfire??
They're links from some gaming forum. LOL, I'm not sure where the "proof" is supposed to kick in.
You're just proving Hmac's point here:
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/9696850/
Apple has $40 billion in 'cash' to play with.
For me, Win7 is repackaged Vista with less crashes, same old nag's, multiple steps required to do simple tasks, very plain and not an enjoyable OS to use as OSX.
Apple will stay VERY focused on manufacturing notebooks alongside their iPhone, iPad and future products.
For me, Win7 is repackaged Vista with less crashes, same old nag's, multiple steps required to do simple tasks, very plain and not an enjoyable OS to use as OSX.
Apple will stay VERY focused on manufacturing notebooks alongside their iPhone, iPad and future products.
I enjoy reading the OS-X vs Win 7 stuff but I often wonder if it really matters. I like my Mac and I like having something that works yet is only used by less than 10 percent of computer users. I am too lazy to try and run a pure Linux system so this seems to work nice for me. But I'll continue to enjoy reading these threads.
I agree. I switched to OSX a few years ago having gotten tired of viruses, slowdowns, spyware, program crashes/system instability. I still use Windows XP at work, I have a Dell laptop with Windows 7, and I run Windows 7 on my Mac Pro for online gaming. Windows 7 is OK, but it is still registry-based.
I'm sure Windows meets the expectations of many people, but using both systems, I've seen absolutely nothing in Windows 7, nor nothing in OSX, that would make me inclined to switch back to Windows as the primary OS that I use.
OSX is working great for me. I'll switch back if/when that changes.
It is my proof that the iPad is not the future of computing. The majority of people use a PC. All I was showing there was the fact that none of the people who use a PC often is going to buy an iPad.
Great! Apple have shifted loads of iPad's, i'm not denying that. All I am saying is that it is not going to be the future, like you have said.
It it was the future, why the hell are we still using desktop PC's? We should have moved on to Laptop's years ago!
Who are these people that "use a PC often'? How often is often?
Or do you just keep describing geeks and tech-heads who represent the minority of the computer-using population?
"If I were running Apple, I would milk the Macintosh for all it's worth -- and get busy on the next great thing. The PC wars are over. Done. Microsoft won a long time ago."
-- Steve Jobs in Fortune, Feb. 19, 1996
Read More http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/03/70512#ixzz0lTZvNfQd
Well, he is running Apple again, and he obviously found that "next great thing". And obviously, it has nothing to do with the Mac anymore.
-- Steve Jobs in Fortune, Feb. 19, 1996
Read More http://www.wired.com/gadgets/mac/commentary/cultofmac/2006/03/70512#ixzz0lTZvNfQd
Well, he is running Apple again, and he obviously found that "next great thing". And obviously, it has nothing to do with the Mac anymore.
The Mac?
LOL. Don't get me wrong I've been a Mac fan for 20 years but even I realize that the next Billion dollar revenue generator for Apple is all about the Mobile market.
You needn't be worried about Mac. The Desktop is quickly becoming subservient to the mobile platforms and Apple's cleaning Microsoft's clock in this area.
LOL. Don't get me wrong I've been a Mac fan for 20 years but even I realize that the next Billion dollar revenue generator for Apple is all about the Mobile market.
You needn't be worried about Mac. The Desktop is quickly becoming subservient to the mobile platforms and Apple's cleaning Microsoft's clock in this area.
Computer geeks is a minority. Professionals and creatives who need to use Photoshop and AutoCAD is a minority of that. You're right, the iPad doesn't work for them, but that doesn't mean Apple will cater to them. The iPad can bring in immense profits, and Apple kills the Mac line, and everyone'll move to Windows 7 and Linux. If that's what Apple wants, then there's nothing you can do - not even citing computer geek forums will do it.
Then you're doing something wrong. I've had machines run 2 years easy without any slowdown. I'm not ********ting, either.
You're a hypocrite. YOU are the worst troll this place has ever seen. Your comments add neither comically nor constructively to this place. You have accused me of lying ( when I have not ) of being a troll ( when I am simply describing my experiences ).
My point? What the hell is yours?
The point is *LTD*, is that you appear to be under the illusion that in a variable amount of years, no-one will have a computer and everyone will have an iPad/tablet like device. Even for businesses, media and creative environments. Or at least that is the impression you are giving off. And you couldn't be more wrong.
The iPad will simply fill a gap and replace the netbook at the most.
The iPad is not suitable for:
- Gaming
- Media Production
- Acting as a server
- Word Processing (unless you have the Bluetooth keyboard)
- External Devices
- Hell, you can't even watch YouTube vids in a decent quality for an afternoon with the lack of Flash.
Which, when you think about it, is a lot. The above is what the majority of people use a computer for.
The iPad will be great for Web Browsing, Reading, Acting as a picture frame. I can see it probably being used in schools once it get's more popular and after a couple of OS releases. But not the future of computing at all.
Anyway, back on topic, Windows 7 is good to say it's Windows. Microsoft deserve their profits this time.
I think we have a definitional disconnect here. Of course the iPad isn't going to redefine computing.....it's not even a computer. It's a media browser that happens to have some computer-like functionality.
That said, it, or it's next generation, will replace the computer for the majority of the people for the majority of their tasks - (not all). We all know that most people use their computer for email, word processing, and internet surfing. The iPad genre will handle that just fine, and because of its portability and its interface will very likely replace the computer for those most common tasks. I think of it as a computer-adjunct.
But the home computer ain't going anywhere anytime soon, at least not for the next 48 hours.
That said, it, or it's next generation, will replace the computer for the majority of the people for the majority of their tasks - (not all). We all know that most people use their computer for email, word processing, and internet surfing. The iPad genre will handle that just fine, and because of its portability and its interface will very likely replace the computer for those most common tasks. I think of it as a computer-adjunct.
But the home computer ain't going anywhere anytime soon, at least not for the next 48 hours.
Try reading my posts perhaps?
- Gaming on touchscreen will never work out.
- Neither will Word Processing.
- USB is no where near dead yet so you cannot compare it to the Floppy Drive scenario.
- Who would want a wafer thin server than you cannot even add/remove a hard drive from?
- There is no chance it will benefit Media Production at all. The only possibilities I can think of in my industry is that it could be used as virtual faders on control/mix desks. Oh, it may benefit the tablety things for them photoshop types.
- YouTube should hopefully get better though.
Now puhleeze accept that the iPad is not the future. Yes, it will fill a gap in the market. Yes it will sell. Yes, it may even be popular. But it is not the future of computing.
All true.
There is a strong novelty factor about the iPad that makes some throw around the hyperbole in copious amounts. Given enough time I guess we'll all be flying around on them too. iPad is the future of computing and commuting!
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I've noticed this rabid little apple attack dog on numerous other threads. I'm a big apple fan and have converted many family and friends but his lickspittle attitude is really off-putting. Any criticism of apple is quickly met with sarcasm and opprobrium, but rarely with any reasoned debate.