Windows 7 RC Discussion

[Signal-11]

Expose is a pain if you have a ton of windows open. The get so small that you have no choice but to mouse over each one to see what it is. The Taskbar has small tumbnails, but its at least organized by app instead of just pushed all around the screen and hovering over a thumbnail shows the window full-size. I didnt mind the dock/expose for a while, then i tried windows 7 and realized just how clumsy window management in osx really is. Everything just kind of floats around.

I use Spaces to define tasks and groups of tasks and use expose all application windows. Yeah, if I were running every app in one desktop and didn't use the application specific expose, I would have the problem you described but it's a non issue for me.

I keep saying this but I don't think people really understand that OS X and Windows have a fundamentally different application windowing paradigm and because of that, the better application and window switching system for each will not be the same.

 

[VoodooDaddy]

Didnt read through this entire thread so maybe this was answered. I grabbed both the 32bit and 64bit. Which one should I install on my iMac listed in sig?

 

[ryannazaretian]

Didnt read through this entire thread so maybe this was answered. I grabbed both the 32bit and 64bit. Which one should I install on my iMac listed in sig?

Try 64bit first, then go to 32bit if it doesn't work. You will not be able to use all of your RAM, plus 64bit has a slight edge on performance.

 

[Tex-Twil]

You installed the Boot Camp 2.1 update right?

I installed the drivers from Leopard DVD which came with my UMBP. Don't know if this is v2.1 though.

 

[Tuneboy]

I did all Updates, but still, no 2-finger rightclick, and still, no way of adjusting the backlight brightness... This way it's really not nice to work with this way (getting blind from the very bright LED backlight, not being able to right-click anything...)

I removed (uninstalled) every driver and program that was Apple or BootCamp related, then restarted, coppied BootCamp 2.1 from my DVD and replaced the .msi files but this time downloaded from a different website then before. Reinstalled the whole thing, did the Trackpad update, and now, everything works perfectly!

I now probably have old Nvidia GPU drivers but i am afraid that if i change to the newest one that my backlight-dimmer will not work anymore... is this true or is it safe to go to 185.85?

 

[valvehead]

So far I'm pretty happy with Win7 x64 RC. I've only had a couple of minor issues:

1. Installation for my RME Fireface 800 drivers got stuck the first time I tried. I booted into safe mode and got it installed correctly. Also I had to switch to the legacy driver for the TI firewire chip (as noted on RME's site).

2. A couple of times only one desktop gadget appeared after startup. The gadget gallery wouldn't load. I killed and restarted the sidebar process, and everything worked again. This may be due to one of the gadgets not loading correctly. Note: some gadgets suffer from memory leaks. I removed Future Clock after seeing how much memory it was eating up over time.

Overall I'm pretty impressed. I've been a rather stubborn XP Pro user for years. I haven't used Vista before, so this is like a brand new toy to me. I especially like Aero Peek. In some ways it's better than Exposé. While some people may be annoyed by UAC, I don't think it's any more intrusive than having to enter my password in OS X.

The only thing that (still!) annoys me is the boot camp drivers. The trackpad is wonky, and KBDMGR.EXE has horrible DPC latency problems. I'm crossing my fingers that 3.0 will fix these things.

I now probably have old Nvidia GPU drivers but i am afraid that if i change to the newest one that my backlight-dimmer will not work anymore... is this true or is it safe to go to 185.85?

I'm using 185.85 on my early 2008 MBP. It's working just fine.

 

[runebinder]

Gone back to 7, as after installing 4GB of RAM I kept getting BSODs in XP, Leopard's working fine and ran a mem test which was clean. Decided to try 64 bit and it's working perfectly, Graphics driver hasn't needed to be recovered like my first attempt at 64 bit, and now games are running sweetly, no sound cut out issues like I was getting with 32 bit 7.

Very happy with it

 

[bruinsrme]

older Dell latptop video driver??

I just finished loading RC2. It seemed to have taken a while and it took a couple of reboots to get things going with some smoothness and speed.
The laptop is a Dell 5150 (about 5 years old) and the NV34 Gforce 5200M video card comes up as a Standard Graphics card. In turn looks horrible.

Is anyone else running an older card and did you use a XP driver instead of the standard card?

thanks
Scott

 

[Signal-11]

I just finished loading RC2. It seemed to have taken a while and it took a couple of reboots to get things going with some smoothness and speed.
The laptop is a Dell 5150 (about 5 years old) and the NV34 Gforce 5200M video card comes up as a Standard Graphics card. In turn looks horrible.

Is anyone else running an older card and did you use a XP driver instead of the standard card?

I've managed to get the RC (RC2???) running on an old Inspiron 600m (Pentium M 1.6, 1.25GB RAM, ATI Mobility Radeon 9000 64MB).

What it amounts to is no Aero for you. I managed to hunt down 6-7 working drivers for all of the legacy components (XP 32 bit drivers see to be fine for most) but I am having no luck with any of graphics drivers. At least for ATI, support goes as far back as 9250 and no further. I think for NVidia, you are out of luck as well. I had a rough time getting a 6600GT AGP 128MB to work and had to go back to some early Vista drivers to find something stable. BTW, NVidia quietly dropped AGP from their drivers a while back, so you might just be out of luck.

 

[bruinsrme]

BTW, NVidia quietly dropped AGP from their drivers a while back, so you might just be out of luck.

Yeah looking at their website at least they support vista, can't knock them for mot support an older card. Oh well.
thanks for the info

 

[Eidorian]

Looks like I'll be getting the 32-bit version for my MacBook.

 

[viperguy]

I installed the 32 bit version on my MB (Again) but this time I get a 4 number error when trying to install bootcamp drivers on it.
How may I proceed?

 

[bruinsrme]

Loaded it on my XPS1530 looks a hellava better

 

[Stridder44]

+1'ing

My post was against the rules but your is not? Failed logic much? I could understand if all I said was "+1" or "I agree" but I didn't. You're going a bit overbored here. Whatever, anyway, back on topic.

I installed the drivers from Leopard DVD which came with my UMBP. Don't know if this is v2.1 though.

I can't remember which one you got so here's both. Boot Camp 2.1 Update for Vista 32-bit and Vista 64-bit.

 

[runebinder]

I installed the 32 bit version on my MB (Again) but this time I get a 4 number error when trying to install bootcamp drivers on it.
How may I proceed?

Have you tried copying the bootcamp folder and replacing the msi's from the limo download?

 

[viperguy]

Have you tried copying the bootcamp folder and replacing the msi's from the limo download?

I manually got into the bootcamp folder of my MB OSX disk and installed all the drivers I could see there.
I managed to get the sound to work, but not the trackpad or any other feature =(

 

[Tuneboy]

I manually got into the bootcamp folder of my MB OSX disk and installed all the drivers I could see there.
I managed to get the sound to work, but not the trackpad or any other feature =(

My advice to you is uninstall everything (even drivers) that is related to Apple or Bootcamp. Then, copy the Bootcamp-DVD to your computer. Replace the .msi files with the ones you can find here a few pages back, and then install Bootcamp with the Setup.exe.

If you install the drivers by hand they will not be coordinated by Bootcamp, and Bootcamp has to enable 2-finger right-click, so without Bootcamp itself, this will not work...
Also, restart the computer whenever this is asked to prevent problems...

 

[ID_Field_Blank]

Don't know if any of you have seen this...

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/16/20090511/ttc-first-windows-7-bug-discovered-6315470.html

The first major bug of the release candidate... There is a hotfix so make sure you update!

 

[steveza]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/16/20090511/ttc-first-windows-7-bug-discovered-6315470.html

The first major bug of the release candidate... There is a hotfix so make sure you update!

Shouldn't really affect most people as the default user has administrator rights. That said, if you are using the RC or Windows in general you should install all updates automatically.

 

[viperguy]

Why do I have this "untitled" folder after installing W7 on my mac?
I tried changing the name but I wasn`t successful lol
Also tried ejecting it but it reappears when I restart the computer..

 

[thejadedmonkey]

Why do I have this "untitled" folder after installing W7 on my mac?
I tried changing the name but I wasn`t successful lol
Also tried ejecting it but it reappears when I restart the computer..

I think that's one of the partitions that Bootcamp makes. It's a drive showing up in your My Computer, right?

 

[Eidorian]

I think that's one of the partitions that Bootcamp makes. It's a drive showing up in your My Computer, right?

Unless you name the Windows volume it'll default to Untitled under OS X.

 

[Tex-Twil]

Hi,
I have the impression the Aero isn't so fluid on my UMBP. When I open/close a window the fade out/in is a bit "laggy". Do you have the same thing ? I have the latest nvidia drivers with the 9600m 512 VRAM.

Tex

 

[TuffLuffJimmy]

I installed Windows 7 on my black Macbook Core2duo, and other than the lack of bluetooth it's flawless. My machine feels a little snappier than it does in OS X and much, much faster than it did under Vista.

I really dig the dock, and the themes that come with Vista. The wallpapers are nice, they're not cheesy and cheap looking like the old Windows wallpapers.

The cool window features, like touching the top of the screen maximizes a window and shaking a window hides all the others, are pretty nice. So far it has given me no trouble.

Loves it.

Also, who knows how to get my bluetooth mouse working?

 

[Andrmgic]

I installed Windows 7 on my black Macbook Core2duo, and other than the lack of bluetooth it's flawless. My machine feels a little snappier than it does in OS X and much, much faster than it did under Vista.

I really dig the dock, and the themes that come with Vista. The wallpapers are nice, they're not cheesy and cheap looking like the old Windows wallpapers.

The cool window features, like touching the top of the screen maximizes a window and shaking a window hides all the others, are pretty nice. So far it has given me no trouble.

Loves it.

Also, who knows how to get my bluetooth mouse working?

hrm, BT should be working fine. Did windows pick up your bluetooth hardware at all? Microsoft has a generic bluetooth driver that does a pretty good job handling bluetooth input devices.

Also, did you install the bootcamp drivers?

My apple wireless keyboard pairs perfectly even using a HP Bluetooth dongle, which it didn't in Vista or XP.