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You work for that group? Splitters!
You bloody Cookest! I get paid by the Jobsians...
I’m with ya dude. I have a 2015 13” MBP and a gaming PC and Catalina runs like **** on my Mac. Win 10 is way quicker and faster. Sure, macos is still “prettier” but it’s slow with useless animations and bloated. Just an example, the “new” music app is complete slow garbage. Apples own apps are no longer slick and fast. They are pretty UIs stripped of features and bogged down.
Windows 10 is indeed superior in a lot of ways, OSX has gotten a back burner treatment since jobs died, its slow to progress and isn't leading in any area anymore, just playing catchup.
OSX feels a little aged to be honest and it works in some ways that just show this perfectly.
Overall I wish OS X was leading the OS world again, but it isn't, sadly.
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Same man, we have identical setups
OSX feels a little aged to be honest and it works in some ways that just show this perfectly.
Overall I wish OS X was leading the OS world again, but it isn't, sadly.
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I thought we weren't supposed to mention this?! That was part of the agreement when getting these checks! I think the last memo was to also mention how great Tim Cook was and how great of a leader he is.
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My 2017 MBP is great (best laptop I've ever used), I used it for several years before getting a Windows desktop a few months ago as my primary machine (due to working at home and all of my work being windows). My windows desktop has 0 problems and I absolutely love it.
My iPad and iPhone are such great devices, I think I'll be using them instead of a Macbook Pro. I just like being able to game with a graphics card and work natively on Windows. I used Parallel for years and while it wasn't bad, it was not super fast, especially when compiling 500k file source code builds.
I've had the most un-Apple like experience on Mac OS but I still see it as a refined, stay out of the way, works out of the box, plays nicely with above average software. But I know Windows better than the back of my hand so... lol.
What I'm loving now is using both.
I can pop open my MBP when I want to and game on my custom built desktop if I want to. Can't get better than this! Now if I could just iMessage and answer phone calls on my Windows PC...
Windows 10 on a Ryzen 3600x, 64GB of 3200 ram, and 1TB NVME just screams. Fastest machine I've ever used.
Oh... Tim Cook is an amazing leader and a very wonderful person.
Same man, we have identical setups
Credibility and popularity are not the same thing.
https://forums.macrumors.com/forums/macos-catalina-10-15.208/
https://mrmacintosh.com/10-15-4-update-wake-from-sleep-kernel-panic-in-16-mbpro-2019/
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251223341
Issues are real, and as I said before it happens when you do more than just browsing, using office 365 (which was solved in the latest supplemental update), and listening to music.
Ironically the Macbook Pro works better on Windows 10 than on macOS Catalina, it says a lot.
https://mrmacintosh.com/10-15-4-update-wake-from-sleep-kernel-panic-in-16-mbpro-2019/
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251223341
Issues are real, and as I said before it happens when you do more than just browsing, using office 365 (which was solved in the latest supplemental update), and listening to music.
Ironically the Macbook Pro works better on Windows 10 than on macOS Catalina, it says a lot.
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Then we get yet another set of reports about a bad Windows update: https://www.komando.com/security-privacy/windows-10-update-problems/736559/
So yeah, both Operating Systems have pluses and minuses.
Maybe the problem is that companies like Apple and Microsoft think they have to keep introducing updates and new features, many of which are hardly ever used and/or later discarded. OS's are very complicated pieces of software and it's not possible to fully test the impact of a change in one part of the code on every other part. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I've used Mac and Windows OS's for years and all I ever do are the very basic things that have existed since the beginning: open and close folders, launch applications, save files, etc. Maybe "leave well enough alone" should be more widely practiced.
This seems to be an issue with a lot of agile development these days. They focus on new features, and getting them done in sprints vs taking the time to really test these things out. Apple and Microsoft need to slow things down. Everyone does. I get some odd issues with Adobe Creative Cloud 2020 versions too. Apps and development need to go back to the good days where we need to wait 3-4 years for a new version.
Quite true and both companies employ public beta testing. Apple does it with their Beta program and Microsoft has their version called the Windows Insider Program. Another thing to watch out for is that clicking on "Check Updates" in Windows 10 gets you beta updates before they are given the final OK and released to the public. At least that was a problem in the past. I don't know if Microsoft has changed their policy on their updates program?
This is probably waste of time, but why not:
My personal experience - and I use Windows, macOS, and Linux on multiple machines daily for close to 30 years now - is, that every system does have bugs and problems at some point. Most of the time, however, really severe issues are hardware problem. For example, Catalina 10.15.4 works spectacularly well for me on my 2017 MBP. No crashes, no issues. However, 10.14.X was challenge for my computer until mid way through releases with occasional crash due to 4k display. But Linux (Redhat I need to use) or Windows had graphics issues at some times.
And - as if on request - Microsoft has delivered timely example : https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveyw...-warn-of-bsod-and-deleted-files/#2322aa7865e8
I do not understand, why people are complaining about 16" MBP or new Minis. Those devices are - at this time - all still under warranty. Backup your data and request repair/replacement from Apple, those are too expensive machines to keep if they do not work right. Apple stupidly designed these things as more or less unfixable systems, so most repairs = replacement of logic board = new cpu, memory, SSD, and gpu. Migrating user Apps and data in macOS is refreshingly easy compared to Windows.
My personal experience - and I use Windows, macOS, and Linux on multiple machines daily for close to 30 years now - is, that every system does have bugs and problems at some point. Most of the time, however, really severe issues are hardware problem. For example, Catalina 10.15.4 works spectacularly well for me on my 2017 MBP. No crashes, no issues. However, 10.14.X was challenge for my computer until mid way through releases with occasional crash due to 4k display. But Linux (Redhat I need to use) or Windows had graphics issues at some times.
And - as if on request - Microsoft has delivered timely example : https://www.forbes.com/sites/daveyw...-warn-of-bsod-and-deleted-files/#2322aa7865e8
I do not understand, why people are complaining about 16" MBP or new Minis. Those devices are - at this time - all still under warranty. Backup your data and request repair/replacement from Apple, those are too expensive machines to keep if they do not work right. Apple stupidly designed these things as more or less unfixable systems, so most repairs = replacement of logic board = new cpu, memory, SSD, and gpu. Migrating user Apps and data in macOS is refreshingly easy compared to Windows.
Me in 2005 to future husband: “why would you pay 3x more for that eyeball imac that has an integrated screen that could go bad. My Window XP machine is cheaper, has a CD ROM drive that works and is rock stable.”
Me in 2018 to husband: “your imac sucks and I’ll never own a desktop with integrated screen. If they update the mini and I can use my lovely 40” 4k monitor on it I’ll buy one. I’ve heard too many horror stories about Win 10 forced upgrades and I’m not going there.”
Where has Mac been my whole life! Love Mojave on 2018 mini - rock solid, no muss, no fuss! Worth every 2x penny.
Me in 2018 to husband: “your imac sucks and I’ll never own a desktop with integrated screen. If they update the mini and I can use my lovely 40” 4k monitor on it I’ll buy one. I’ve heard too many horror stories about Win 10 forced upgrades and I’m not going there.”
Where has Mac been my whole life! Love Mojave on 2018 mini - rock solid, no muss, no fuss! Worth every 2x penny.
@tomi03 The issues you describe are caused by Apple's buggy drivers for the AMD Navi GPUs. They have massive issues ever since Apple introduced support for Navi GPUs back in late 2019 and almost none of the issues have been fixed till now. Apple has received numerous bug reports from me and other people but they don't react to them nor do they try to fix the bugs. It really is a shame. My Hackintosh goes from rock solid to unusable as soon as I plug my RX 5700 XT in. I feel your pain!
I work for a company that develops software. It's engrained that if you're not popping out new features on a monthly basis, you'll lose every user you have. The minority of the userbase is so vocal that upper management feels they have to make decisions based on this group alone often resulting in upsetting many more users when attempting to appease the vocal minority.
This has nothing to do with adoption to agile. It has everything to do with lack of testing.
Actually yes it does. I have worked for several companies now that adopted this agile development that wants to get features done too quick in sprints vs taking the time to implement them properly. Faster development leads to more bugs that what we are seeing with both Microsoft, Apple and even Adobe. Many companies I have worked for are like this too. I have left several due to me bringing up these features were implemented too quick and they just don't care. 2 week sprints, the feature is done. Next. This has resulted in buggy code.
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Yep. Like I said, this is the problem with the agile development in the software development industry. New features are prioritized over QA and general testing. I have even been in some situations where development is obviously going to take longer than 2 weeks. I had to rush it out just because NEW FEATURE!!! Rushed code leads to more bugs. We are humans, we make mistakes. And we make more mistakes when rushed.
Everything these days is SO BUGGY. From games, to professional software to operating systems. We need to get away from this. I am sick of dealing with buggy software.
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I've used Windows since 3.1 and Mac OS since System 7, still use both as I have worked from my home office for the last 29 years. I use my Windows machine for work as I feel it offers me the best productivity with Office and AutoCAD. I use an iMac, Mac Mini and MacBook Air for my personal use as I enjoy the "Mac" experience more. I have tried and tried over the years to just use Mac OS but it's just not for me when it comes to workflow and productivity. That being said both OS's in my humble opinion have their place and I'm very glad I have both of them at my disposal.
Again, this is not due to Agile. It's due to bad agile implementations. Agile in and of itself is not the issue.
And there are mutiple variations of Agile: Scrum, LeSS, SAFe, DAD, Holistic, Nexus etc...
It's not the framework, it's how it's implemented.
both my macs are on catalina. and, on my imac. i make my living on my macs; mostly logic X, some FCPX, and everything works. what was your point again??
Its still agile that is the issue. Whether its agile itself or how agile is implemented, its still a problem with agile. You cannot say its not agile but bad agile development and still say agile is not the cause. I worked for a company that did not implement agile in any way and it was great to be able to work on features as long as it required without being rushed into 2 week sprints. Guess what, we had less bugs to deal with.
I have been through a few companies lately that all have the same issue. I have been in software development for 15 years now and it never used to be this bad until companies started with this Agile development mess.
Yes, you can. Driving a car is not an issue. Driving a car badly is.
I've seen Agile done spectacularly well, I've also seen it do horribly badly. Agile requires discipline. When there's no buy-in from the business then Agile will fail. Agile when accepted by everyone from the C-Suite down to every team member can be very very successful.
I once worked on a project 10 years ago that prided itself on on time clean and successful deliverables. Sure we had bugs, but we dealt with them quickly and with minimal impact.
Then the sales team over-promised to the customer and the CEO forced us to deliver on those promises. The whole project went pear shaped in less than a year.
If you are bad enough to crash a car every day, you probably shouldn't drive. Ride a bike to work, live closer to work within walking distance. I am actually a horrible driver. So I do not drive. I car-pool, take Ubers, ride bike, and live within walking distance of work. So yes, driving the car IS the issue in this example. Switching to something else is better.
Same thing here. These companies are using Agile very poorly. But if they don't use Agile, it could possibly be better.
We are both right here. In this case, Agile is the issue with these companies. Using a hammer to put in a screw doesn't work well. The hammer is the issue here. Sure I am not using the hammer properly, but in this context the hammer is the issue.
If you don't implement Agile properly, its an issue. Therefore, companies adopting the agile development is the problem where if they did not implement agile things would be better. I am a senior software engineer with 15 years of experience. There have been quite a few times recently with companies that use Agile where I was forced to work nights and weekends to get a LARGE feature out in a 2 week sprint. Even though I have stated it would take longer, they stated it needs to be done this sprint so we can work on the next feature ASAP. Even then, I introduced some bugs by having my work be SEVERELY rushed just for the 2 week sprint Agile mentality these companies have.
I am not about to argue with dozens of companies about this. The fact is they are using Agile improperly but its still Agile that is the problem in this context. The majority of these companies seem to mostly pick up on the 2 week sprints from Agile.
Software development used to be a massive passion of mine. I would even get home from work and do more software development. Yet these companies are making it very frustrating where I don't even want to do it anymore at this point.
I am sorry this was your experience...
I still didn't use Catalina and MacOS/OSX has been a beautiful experience for me, its so good it makes me want to use a computer more, and has been rock solid.
Of course, after Jobs passing quality control has been slipping under Cook's management, I didn't try Catalina, but its a possibility that this is the first of the downfalls of Apple under Cook if they don't get their act together. Its normal to have buggy software when there is a huge changes, and I believe they changed their whole filesystem which is a major thing. I still feel they pushed it too early, the gains seem minimum and the issues are many.
I still didn't use Catalina and MacOS/OSX has been a beautiful experience for me, its so good it makes me want to use a computer more, and has been rock solid.
Of course, after Jobs passing quality control has been slipping under Cook's management, I didn't try Catalina, but its a possibility that this is the first of the downfalls of Apple under Cook if they don't get their act together. Its normal to have buggy software when there is a huge changes, and I believe they changed their whole filesystem which is a major thing. I still feel they pushed it too early, the gains seem minimum and the issues are many.
Overall I can say that I never had any issues with High Sierra (10.13.6), Mojave was hot garbage with lots of kernel panics but Catalina works well. I can plug in or do whatever, it works.
I'm not looking back to the Windows days having to mess around with registry settings, stupid Intel graphics power saving settings that don't stick (DPST) or trying different WiFi driver versions to find one that works, and so on.
I'm not looking back to the Windows days having to mess around with registry settings, stupid Intel graphics power saving settings that don't stick (DPST) or trying different WiFi driver versions to find one that works, and so on.
Its not just Apple though. I have been through many problems with Windows 10 updates. First big update removed software. Update after that broke all desktop and start menu shortcuts and broke Windows Update. Microsoft addressed this but to get the fix I had to use the Catalog website as Windows Update was broken. Next update caused a corrupted Windows install on 10 of our 20 workstations at work for development and testing. We used Acronis so we just restored a backup and postponed the update. Then the most recent one where user's documents folder was getting deleted. I never experienced this but it was widely known and Microsoft pulled the update because of it.
I am also experiencing issues with Adobe software on both Windows and Mac that never existed before. There was one really bad issue in the 2018 release I believe where when I exported a video, the last 5 seconds repeated itself.
Video games are also suffering from this too. Bad glitches after the games being postponed for years. Day one updates fixing bad bugs. Some games have bugs as bad as corrupting saves.
Like I said before, things need to get back to the 3-4 year releases. I never had so many problems with both Microsoft or Apple. Yet with Windows 10 and now Catalina its a very bad time. Sure Windows Vista might have been a LITTLE bit of a problem, but after SP1 it was great IMO. I had powerful hardware that was able to run it without any issues and it wasn't as bad as people say. UAC was a bit of an annoyance but that is all it was, an annoyance. So from Windows 98 to Windows 7 have all been very good minus Windows ME. Longer development time seems to help remove some of these bugs. I mean how can you release an update that broke ALL shortcuts?!
